The story and research of what turned me into a misogynist. (A look into misogynist's minds)

Do you really do those things because you love women or are you doing them because you expect love in return?
if you are doing them to get love in return then you are doing them for the wrong reason.

Love suffers long and is kind; love does not envy; love does not parade itself, is not puffed up; does not behave rudely, does not seek its own, is not provoked, thinks no evil; does not rejoice in iniquity, but rejoices in the truth; bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will fail; whether there are tongues, they will cease; whether there is knowledge, it will vanish away.

Do you really do those things because you love women?

reply to post by Barthandelus


Hate is a heavy burden that will age you fast. I hated my parents til I was 60, long after they were dead. They tried to kill their 5 children, with abortions, starvation, beatings, homelessness. This was in the 50's when there were no domestic laws and people looked the other way. Only by the Grace of God did four of us survive to teenagers when we could get out. Should I hate all mothers and fathers and all the people who looked the other way? I did for most of my life and it was wasted years when I could have been focusing on better things in life. Sometimes children don't get parents, sometimes you don't find mates. Maybe you should look inward.

The real kicker. They went to church on Sundays and asked for forgiveness. Then started it all over again on Monday. It was all a front so everyone would look the other way.

I am an a rather good looking woman, I love looking at an attractive man as well. Both sexes can be artistically beautiful. That says NOTHING about character or compatibility. Every straight couple will marry based on that, never looks. Some men suck some women suck. I have been with my husband for 7 years, and love it when he opens the door for me. I also don't mind if he has an occasional romp with another women, as long as there is no mental connection. We raise kids together, pay, or not pay bills together, I buy him allergy pills when he sneezes, and go on here when he watches anime. I love people who are truly themselves, I believe most people do. No relationship, gay or straight is ideal. We can talk about everyone else's relationship as weird except ours. I think in the op, this person has not discovered who they really are. Please take a deep breath, look in the mirror and be okay with who you truly are. Gay or straight there are plenty who will love the true you, but never hate an entire group based on genitals. Just be you and be okay with your strengths and shortcomings.

To everybody and their post: I'm backing my topic with evidence below

-[[Briffault's law]]
The female, not the male, determines all the conditions of the animal family. Where the female can derive no benefit from association with the male, no such association takes place.
*Past benefit provided by the male does not provide for continued or future association.
*Any agreement where the male provides a current benefit in return for a promise of future association is null and void as soon as the male has provided the benefit
*A promise of future benefit has limited influence on current/future association, with the influence inversely proportionate to the length of time until the benefit will be given and directly proportionate to the degree to which the female trusts the male

-[[80/20 Rule]]
Women are only attracted to the top 20% of any given group of males

-[[LMS theory]]
Women are onyl interested in looks, money and status.
*Looks - Face, hair, physique, height, jawline, etc.
*Money - Cars, clothes, other.
*Status - Social status, personality to some degree.

-[[Self-Made Man]]
Vincent's book Self-Made Man retells an eighteen-month experiment in which she disguised herself as a man. This follows in the tradition of undercover journalism such as Black Like Me. Vincent talked about the experience in HARDtalk extra on BBC on April 21, 2006 and described her experiences in male-male and male-female relationships. She joined an all-male bowling club, joined a men's therapy group, went to a strip club, visited Catholic monks in a cloister, and dated women. Vincent writes about how the only time she has ever been considered excessively feminine was during her stint as a man: her alter ego, Ned, was assumed to be gay on several occasions, and features which in her as a woman had been seen as “butch” became oddly effeminate when seen in a man. (She is a lesbian.) Vincent asserts that, since the experiment, she has never been more glad to be female.
*Her experience with these men turned some of her long-held perceptions about men being harsh and rejecting and women being warm and welcoming upside down.
*(Female pretending to be male) Vincent said the dates were rarely fun and that the pressure of "Ned" having to prove himself was grueling. She was surprised that many women had no interest in a soft, vulnerable man.
* Vincent saw the men struggle with vulnerability. "They don't get to show the weakness, they don't get to show the affection, especially with each other. And so often all their emotions are shown in rage," she said.
*Norah began to empathize with the fear and stress men feel for having to always be the strong provider.
*"Men are suffering. They have different problems than women have, but they don't have it better," she said. "They need our sympathy. They need our love, and maybe they need each other more than anything else. They need to be together."

What it all comes down to is that when a male steps outside his role not only do ALL, yes all women will reject him. Not only that but because women only desire a certain breed of males most men will look down on less masculine males or males that aren't apart of the gender-role system for men. Women's existence pretty much enslaves men to one gender role or else be rejected by society

and another thing to the user that side he believes in equality. Equality can't truly exist ever because women aren't viewed as expendable. Eggs are much more valuable than sperm thus women will always be protected one way or another by society. Women can not understand what it's like to be the expendable gender. We males are nothing more than machines to be used by society and women. As soon as you interact with a female she'll judge your usefulness and masculinity thus forcing you to be a slave to gender-roles or face rejection.

Originally posted by AshleyD

Originally posted by jiggerj
I'd like to ask what would be YOUR perfect woman?

That is a damn good question to ask in threads like this that target a certain group for criticism.

I have a suspicion concerning the things the OP would list. Hope he comes back and answers your question.

I'd pay money to read it. lol

Females can not be perfect. Matter of fact I have no real taste in women beyond the primal urges of what is suppose to attract men to females.

Originally posted by Druscilla
reply to post by Barthandelus

 

So, basically, you're saying, you let your perception of others' opinions of you reverse program you as opposed to just living for yourself and being yourself.

It's just some pathetic rooster puff up.
Sad really.

Meanwhile, short, fat, balding, physically unattractive men with low social statuses around the world enjoy their lives as married men with women they love; women that love them faithfully in return.

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Short, fat, balding, physically unattractive men with low social status are either single or living in unhappy marriages to unattractive females. If a guy wants an attractive female he must get fit, get money and gain status.

Sad thing is all women have to do is wear makeup and not get fat while men have to spend years of hard work becoming attractive.

reply to post by Barthandelus

Short, fat, balding, physically unattractive men with low social status are either single or living in unhappy marriages to unattractive females. If a guy wants an attractive female he must get fit, get money and gain status.

Interesting, so you basically admit that males don't want the 'omega female' either. Obtaining an unattractive female: failure. Ultimate goal: Attractive female.

Females can not be perfect. Matter of fact I have no real taste in women beyond the primal urges of what is suppose to attract men to females.

But you despise women who might be attracted to men for same reasons.

Well, that is about all I needed to hear. Tootle-loo, or however the saying is spelled.

This sounds exactly like some of the stuff I've read about on r/redpill on Reddit.

I feel bad for OP because it's a bitter, bitter life to live in so much hate of half the population of the planet.

Originally posted by Barthandelus
To everybody and their post: I'm backing my topic with evidence below

-[[Briffault's law]]

-[[80/20 Rule]]

-[[LMS theory]]

-[[Self-Made Man]]

I don't think anyone needs proof as to why you hate women, but you certainly aren't going to convince any man that is a lover of women to suddenly become a misogynist because of a stupid book, or supposed law or theory.

So what are you going to do then? Find a woman that doesn't mind that you hate her so much? Go without a female mate all your life? Experiment in homosexuality to see if that is more viable? What then? What do men like you do? Do you go out and pay for prostitutes? Try not to kill any of them though.

I mean, I am genuinely curious.

all the hateful women on this thread aught to read this: jonmillward.com...

it highlights the differences between men and women in online dating a mostly scientific way. results being comparable to real life experiences.

OP is brave for posting his comments, and while others have had some good insights, they seem offended.

reply to post by Barthandelus


I think the problem herein is that you do not know what love is. To love is to be loved.

This problem is exacerbated by the fact that you know nothing about women.

I am a woman who loves a man.

He has never invented "so many wonderful machines." His chivalry does not offend me. His weaknesses are endearing. His spirit and soul are beautiful. I benefit only by being in his presence, loving him and being loved by him.

Love is unconditional.

My dislike for females comes from a lifetime of studying female primal nature. The first thing I was researching is women's unconscious choice her instinct for the Alpha males of society. Women in general don't seem to even love men. What I've notice when women say they love men, they really love his status or his power not him as a human being.

Your diatribe on female primal nature could just as easily have been a study on animal instinct and animal mating habits. When it comes to LOVING a man as a HUMAN BEING, I find your credibility sorely lacking.

My grandfather died of prostate cancer. My uncle has once survived it. So, I am a woman who happens to freaking care. Take note.

Originally posted by ninepointfive
all the hateful women on this thread aught to read this: jonmillward.com...

OP is brave for posting his comments, and while others have had some good insights, they seem offended.

I didn't see anything hateful in this very brave thread. Did you? Yea there are some that appeared to be offended. The OP' is the only admitted hater though. As for me, I am curious as to how misogynists cope while having to share this planet with billions of women? It's got to be tough being surrounded by people you hate constantly. And lonely. I don't see how you can hate all women and love your mother. I mean, according to the OP's theories he produced as his evidence for his hatred, even his own mother was only interested in spreading her legs to the Alpha, correct?

What is this... I don't even...

Okay.

You sound like a whiny wimp, for lack of a kinder term. No wonder you think all women love alphas and hate short men. You probably are not very alpha, nor are you very tall. But first things first, women don't care about your shortcomings; they care about how you are affected by your shortcomings. Your appearance is irrelevant, as is your social status. These are all ways to compensate for a lack of self confidence. I know broke, short, fat guys who still get laid, and by some rather attractive women. The thing is, they don't think to themselves, "BAAAH HUMBUG! I'M SHORT, FAT, AND BROKE! OH WELL, I GUESS I'LL NEVER GET LAID IN MY LIFE BECAUSE I'M SHORT, BOO HOO!!!!" Sorry buddy, if you're some little troll who wallows in a puddle of his own tears all day, the bitches probably are not going to come flocking.

Your hatred for women comes from a gross misunderstanding of female psychology. You think that women should think and act like men do. They don't, at all; nor should they. I also sense some bitterness, like as if you think a woman should want to have sex with some needy clown.

It's like you hate the fact that sex is competitive. It has to be, otherwise our species would be f***ed!

tl;dr: Short, fat, bald, pimply faced, hairy, broke guys are still getting laid. If you're not, it's not because you're short, far, bald, ugly, or broke; it's because you let those shortcomings effect you. The idealistic alpha male is a fairy tale that losers turn to as an excuse for why they suck with women. If you suck with women, it's because you suck, not because you're lacking some superficial quality.

The moment a woman is walking down the aisle, she is scanning the audience for a replacement.......
Truth is, women are only interested in men for what they can glean from them....
Woman have no conscience and ne mercy....id rather fight with ten men as one woman.....
they would stoop to stuff no male would dream of even.....

This would be my high school breakup letter to the world if I can put it in paragraphs, no offense OP.

You are generalizing certain traits of women in a modern day which tells me you got women all wrong.

You are the product of the propaganda machine, and thus advertising and breeding the like of yours.

Give the porn and the reality shows a break sometimes...cause the world isn't black or white, big or small, confident or insecure...it's much more than that, you're just inexperienced.

Oh yah..."love" I'm not even going to get into that...

reply to post by Barthandelus


So you´ve been dumbed a number of times by women who probably found you boring or useless in bed. Boo..friggin hoo.. That is life.

Don´t try to brand women as some subspecies, just accept they simply found you uninteresting, or the person you presented to them, as your true self, rather inauspicious. Thats also life. Accept it and start a new one. Stop crying about it, like a kid no-one wants to befriend in the sandbox.

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Rejection serves a purpose. Fearing rejection is like fearing the act of drinking water. Sure, you'll sometimes get water in your windpipe and end up coughing, but that doesn't mean you stop drinking water... obviously.

As for society, nobody give's two f***s about anyone other than themselves and their close friends and family. Do you lose sleep thinking about the events in strangers lives? Why would they lose sleep thinking about you? If you saw some guy get rejected by a woman in public, would you actually care?

"Hah! Look at that guy, trying to fulfill his biological purpose! What a loooooooser! Who needs a vagina when you've got a right hand? It pretty much feels the same, except I can control the tightness of my hand. Man, screw women, me and my hand have got a date with a little lady called pornhub tonight!"

Women get hit on, a lot. They reject guys, a lot. They do this to screen for qualities that a man could easily mask, such as whether he has a strong or brittle sense of confidence. If you care about what a woman thinks of you 5 seconds into an interaction, chances are you're coming across as awkward and creepy and deserve to be rejected. If you care about what a woman thinks of you because you've had a crush on her for months and have finally mustered up the guts to tell her, then you're awkward and creepy and deserve to be rejected. And yes, it is possible to approach someone without worrying about their opinion of you. It's called confidence; a sense that all will be okay regardless of the outcome of a situation.

There is a very thin line between a romantic hero and a creepy stalker, and it's not the mouth-breathing.

Most emotionally healthy people want emotionally healthy, independent, confident partners. Most people with low self esteem want partners who treat them like trash, but that's another topic entirely. Most emotionally unhealthy people want a clingy, needy partner. You hear this all the time from needy guys; they want a girl who focuses her life around them. They are also often very jealous and overprotective. Not exactly the most attractive qualities. Women who don't get much attention from men often turn out the same way.

Originally posted by DestroyDestroyDestroy
What is this... I don't even...

Okay.

You sound like a whiny wimp,

^This right here is why men don't speak out emotionally.

Originally posted by Hollie

Originally posted by ninepointfive
all the hateful women on this thread aught to read this: jonmillward.com...

OP is brave for posting his comments, and while others have had some good insights, they seem offended.

I didn't see anything hateful in this very brave thread. Did you? Yea there are some that appeared to be offended. The OP' is the only admitted hater though. As for me, I am curious as to how misogynists cope while having to share this planet with billions of women? It's got to be tough being surrounded by people you hate constantly. And lonely. I don't see how you can hate all women and love your mother. I mean, according to the OP's theories he produced as his evidence for his hatred, even his own mother was only interested in spreading her legs to the Alpha, correct?

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A mothers love is the closest thing to unconditional love a male will ever receive. Your mother because she is your designer will accept your weakness, your flaws. She'll pick you up when your down. Most men make the mistake that all women are like this. Women will only show this kind of unlimited love to her child not her man.

-Men love women, -Women love children, -Children love objects, -Babies are sociopaths. In the end nobody really loves men.

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Originally posted by TruthLover557
reply to post by Barthandelus

 

I think the problem herein is that you do not know what love is. To love is to be loved.

This problem is exacerbated by the fact that you know nothing about women.

I am a woman who loves a man.

He has never invented "so many wonderful machines." His chivalry does not offend me. His weaknesses are endearing. His spirit and soul are beautiful. I benefit only by being in his presence, loving him and being loved by him.

Love is unconditional.

My dislike for females comes from a lifetime of studying female primal nature. The first thing I was researching is women's unconscious choice her instinct for the Alpha males of society. Women in general don't seem to even love men. What I've notice when women say they love men, they really love his status or his power not him as a human being.

Your diatribe on female primal nature could just as easily have been a study on animal instinct and animal mating habits. When it comes to LOVING a man as a HUMAN BEING, I find your credibility sorely lacking.

My grandfather died of prostate cancer. My uncle has once survived it. So, I am a woman who happens to freaking care. Take note.

Reread everything you just said. You care about your family members, but you don't care about males as a whole. A man can see a group of women and simply think just how awesome they are. Women can see a group of men and won't think much of them.

Btw Love is conditional. Love between a mom and male son is the only thing close to unconditional love a guy will experience with women.

Ugh...
Really want to reply....but...but...damn....
Am barefoot and chained to the stove...and...the...laptop....is sliding away from me...
Trying to reach it with my wooden spoon....
Nope, it's.....gon

I look at it like this. All human beings are superficial, conceited and self centred.

Now and then a persons raise themselves above these traits and then I S/F them