The story and research of what turned me into a misogynist. (A look into misogynist's minds)

reply to post by Barthandelus

Whatever dude. Your loss. I hope someday you are able to talk to a professional about your problems. It will be very freeing for you.

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan
One with a scar, or stretchmarks. Or that snorts when she giggles.

I must be truly screwed up in the head because I find all of those things sexy has hell.

Scars help me relate to her since I have a bunch, stretchmarks remind me of her doing something so awesome that I will never be able to do, and snorting while laughing has always been kind of hot.

Truly, though... I think that's the OP's main problem. It boils down to "I can't get women that are out of my league according to society, woe is me"...

BUt you "get it".

My wife bemoans her grey hairs. I absolutely love them. I was there for every single one. Her stretchmarks gave me my sons. They are as beautiful as my sons are.

The OP is young. He'll "get it" one day, i bet. Most men do.

Wow bro. You bought into the great gender divide, hook, line, and sinker, didn't you? I'm sorry you see the female gender that way.

Maybe you should try dressing up as a woman sometime, and spend several days out in public. I'll bet you change your mind about some things.

Originally posted by Barthandelus
I've never in my life seen a topic made by females about how much they love men.

Then you have ignored them. I myself have taken part in threads many times in which I describe my appreciation of men, and had other women join me in that. I am a daughter of a man, a wife of a man, and a mother of two men, and none of the description you have given of women fits me. (I also prefer shorter men as well).

Though I do not hate the "omega man" as you describe, I do admit I find powerful men more attractive. It is exactly the same for men who find pretty women more attractive- that is an evolved instinct.

But I know many women who are attracted to that kind of man- they happen to be very maternal women and tend to care for their mate as if he was a child- in protective ways.

-Women's porn is even limited to tall, fit, and rich guys. (Females literally can't be turned on by beta or omega characters) Women only love alphas and enslave beta males to marriage.

Okay, for one- porn has nothing to do with portraying love.
Marriage is about love.
This mix up right here says more about your problems with women than anything else.

-Men's porn is unlimited. There are thousands of fantasies and tastes men like. human women, dragons, alien, hentai, short, fat, bbw, skinny. Men are insanely open to loving all kinds of women.

In romantic movies, men are of all kinds too. Because love is not about raw superficial sexual attraction, which porn is geared towards.
Men are more often sexually attracted to all kinds of women, that doesn't mean they love all the women they are sexually attracted to.

Women love a wide range of male types, but that doesn't mean they are sexually attracted to all of those.

If you could make a difference in your head between these two concepts, you might have a revelation.

(and I am not talking about a magical or divine thing when I say love either. But even talking about physiological processes, there is a difference between sexual attraction and the attachment we call "love")

Wow!

Since you hate women and have clearly painted them all with your jaded brush, try investigating your own sexuality. You could possibly be homosexual and may find your love in other men?

I just had the second thought that the term alpha male gets thrown around a lot, and yet I think there are some common misconceptions on what each sex means when they say it!

I will say I find alpha males attractive.... and yet that says nothing about money.
I refer to personal power, not a position of power over others, or in the society.

I consider my husband such a man, and yet when i met him he had no money, no home, no social position. He was a foriegner ( which is not far above retard, in social position), and working as an au pair.

I still fell head over heels in love with him and left for his country with him, investing myself completely in our relationship. (still strong after 22 years).

But he does not whine about being a victim in life, about how others get in his way, or the government does, or his boss, (or women). He comes up with solutions to his problems and goes right around such obstacles.
He does what he wants, and sometimes that is just plain crazy stuff- he drove a run down Checker cab when we met, because he loved those cars- and it only cost him two hundred dollars and made many people laugh at him.

He just simply is the captain of his own life, in joy. That doesn't take money- hell he has a fighter jet now, cost almost nothing- just meant talking to lots of people, making friends and contacts, and being aware of opportunities. NOT spending time being bitter and whiny.

He could have done that. His wife had an affair and left him for another man. He gave her everything, quit his job, and left to fulfil his lifetime dream of going to America. He was tricked and lied to by an agency into being a babysitter there. Yet he was sure that better things were ahead, and didn't waste time or energy (and got himself a better, awesome mate in the process! )

An alpha male has power over his own life. With time, that tends to translate into having money, simply because opportunities get noticed, and # happens to them too- they just don't let it get them down.
But even young women can spot that quality of confidence in life and joy even before it becomes material affluence or social standing.

This is what I try to teach my boys- love life, don't waste time on whining, dare to live your dreams!
-And it is a lot easier for me to teach them that when they have a male example in front of them.

I think what we should be discussing is what the society demands on each gender. Th society or media wants you to be like "this" in order to get "this".

Women or rather young women (lets say 10yrs - 30 yrs old) are more influenced by media than males. The media shows how their future dream man should be (a hairless male with a cute feminine face), or (muscle man with ripped abs), or (a very rich person or high digit salary)... however as they grow, they learn it is not possible, so they try to find someone close to that.

Men on the other hand, they gloom over barbies and women with "packages" but many would not keep the fantasy when they grow up, unless they have money or wealth that would entitle them to those women.

So men on the other hand, knows their limit on what they can get or not... while women, due to social and media conditioning.. expects more from a man, even when they might not match it.

what are the sugar daddy and sugar mamma ratio?

That is just my observation, However, i have not many like this in real life.. most women i meet are normal.. they expect a good education(they should, just like guys should expect from girls), looking for work or have one(vice versa) and personality that they prefer.

reply to post by Barthandelus


So, basically, you're saying, you let your perception of others' opinions of you reverse program you as opposed to just living for yourself and being yourself.

It's just some pathetic rooster puff up.
Sad really.

Meanwhile, short, fat, balding, physically unattractive men with low social statuses around the world enjoy their lives as married men with women they love; women that love them faithfully in return.

Your post sounds more like a rant in my opinion.
Did someone drop your heart on the rocks of despair recently?

I do agree with you that there are SOME women out there who are like you described...
but that is not all of them. There are some good women out there....
(harder to find now in days due to single parent homes, abusive fathers, abusive mothers, gold digging mothers, drug addict parents, etc)..
but there is SOME hope.

but certainly, don't hold you breath.

ever since women decided to venture from the kitchen, humanity has been in a downward spiral.

reply to post by Barthandelus


I LOVE women - from a distance. I just don't think men and women are mentally compatible for a lifetime of marriage. We think, feel, and see things from a totally different perspective. The proof here is that men are not monogamous; we are instinctively driven to proliferate. If we had our druthers we'd be sleeping with a different woman every week.

I love oriental women, but that doesn't mean I want to live in the orient. So, I LOVE women, but that doesn't mean I want to live with them.


But, seeing as you HATE women, I'd like to ask what would be YOUR perfect woman?

Originally posted by Druscilla
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So, basically, you're saying, you let your perception of others' opinions of you reverse program you as opposed to just living for yourself and being yourself.

It's just some pathetic rooster puff up.
Sad really.

Meanwhile, short, fat, balding, physically unattractive men with low social statuses around the world enjoy their lives as married men with women they love; women that love them faithfully in return.

edit on 28-8-2013 by Druscilla because: (no reason given)

Damn! I like that post Dru !! (I am not short, fat, and bald though...but my step grand dad was and he had a knock-out wife "my grandmother', who was so smart...always could beat me in Chinese checkers...drove me nuts )

There is someone for everyone. All you have to do is like yourself. I've always had that view. Growing up I would watch my brother, who's 4 years older than me, have the girls after him like crazy...when (in Guam) I turned 13 ears old, I'd ask him questions..(what do I do) He'd say, go for it...just ask...(and he'd help me with a few dance moves for the "teen club", we had on base)...scary

I just always was "to the point", and that works.

How can any male not like females? I just can't understand

I could go to the beach right now...and eventually end the night dancing with women I don't even know (I've done it many times)...I do take a cab cause I don't drink and drive

It's just nuts.

Really...jeeeze..

I think I probably hurt more girl friends than, girl friends hurt me...

It works both ways.

Women are friggin awesome! Who wants to date the ones that you were talking about? D-bags thats who. Let those D-bags do it, and they can have D-bag kids!

Its not about alpha, omega or what ever. Be kind, love the s#it out of the person, and comprimise. If you cant do those three you will have a big problem.

My fiance is bigger than myself, has a port wine stain on her body and guess what? Who cares! I love her, she treats me right, and that right there makes her the most beautiful person. Im not the alpha either.

I like to think men and women are the same in that aspect. They just want someone to treat them right! As one poster put it, that stuff fades in the real world and over time. They start out going out for the D-bags, they find out that D-bags are tools. Then they look for the good guys, just the way it is.

So get with the program, and stop being a hater Open yourself up.

Just a side note: I have gone to a lot of Clubs at the beach and met and danced with a lot of nice women. But, I have not brought any to my home. I haven't done (you know) that since my wife passed. I just enjoy being around women because its a "good thing" and good for my brain. It makes me feel good.

Originally posted by Tylerdurden1
Women are friggin awesome! Who wants to date the ones that you were talking about? D-bags thats who. Let those D-bags do it, and they can have D-bag kids!

Its not about alpha, omega or what ever. Be kind, love the s#it out of the person, and comprimise. If you cant do those three you will have a big problem.

My fiance is bigger than myself, has a port wine stain on her body and guess what? Who cares! I love her, she treats me right, and that right there makes her the most beautiful person. Im not the alpha either.

I like to think men and women are the same in that aspect. They just want someone to treat them right! As one poster put it, that stuff fades in the real world and over time. They start out going out for the D-bags, they find out that D-bags are tools. Then they look for the good guys, just the way it is.

So get with the program, and stop being a hater

Open yourself up.

edit on 28-8-2013 by Tylerdurden1 because: (no reason given)

So true!!

True story...

I was at the "Tustin movie theater" in Tustin, California. I was 17 years old slim but well proportioned wearing Levis 501's and a light blue "gant" shirt with a white under shirt under. (I'm wearing 501's now) on my second to the front "belt loop" I had a "orange rabbits foot", hanging down...(I've told this hear b4 I believe..but )

Mike and I were in the lobby and saw two "very' attractive young women. The one in the "pants suit", glanced at me off and on..as well as I her...

We debated going over and talking...end of debate...no chance forget it.

The next day I was in my upstairs room with, "Kurt", he was messing with my phone...and started talking to a girl (I could tell just listening) I said, "who are you talking to"?, he said, she won't tell me...(he was just dialing numbers ) I grabbed the phone and said, "who is this"? she, said, "who is this"!! I said, ruffready! (not really I said my real name) she said, "I don't know you"!

Anyway, we went back and forth (I was calm and cool ) and I figured out, it was a random dail...But!

I still liked her voice and got info!!

I found out she was the same girl I saw (and she remembered me with the "orange rabbit foot") what are the odds!!

Long story short (she was a year older than me and going to Chapman College) we dated up until I went in the Navy.

I can respect your right to have your opinion, but don't you dare tell me that because I am a woman I don't love my man. I don't care about money status or power. In fact, when I fell in love with him, he was in a very bad spot financially. What I fell in love, and all that matters to me, is who he is. He is truly one of the good men out there.
I love my man more than anything and I love him for no other reason than who he is.

Originally posted by jiggerj
I'd like to ask what would be YOUR perfect woman?

That is a damn good question to ask in threads like this that target a certain group for criticism.

I have a suspicion concerning the things the OP would list. Hope he comes back and answers your question.

I'd pay money to read it. lol

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Reminds me of a "Girl Code" show my wife was watching. Guys who say they like "the natural look" tend to use Kim Kardashian as an example of "natural beauty". LOL....

if only the ladies of planet earth would stop being human, they might live up to the expectations of folks like that.

reply to post by jiggerj

If we had our druthers we'd be sleeping with a different woman every week.

There are actually plenty of women who would do the same thing, if they had their druthers. The ones who actually do, are just more subtle about it, because most men can't seem to handle a woman who enjoys it as much as they do.

reply to post by Druscilla

"Men, if you can't control your woman, you've found a good one."

I like that Dru.

Originally posted by AshleyD

Originally posted by jiggerj
I'd like to ask what would be YOUR perfect woman?

That is a damn good question to ask in threads like this that target a certain group for criticism.

I have a suspicion concerning the things the OP would list. Hope he comes back and answers your question.

I'd pay money to read it. lol

Boxing Helena comes to mind.

I was reading the OP and then some of the replies. And I was like "OMG! I cannot believe this." Sorry OP but I cannot understand your views. When I was reading your OP I was reminded of a group of men who were mad at women years ago and had a movement called "True Forced Loneliness." You can find information about them online if you want to. But the main idea behind their views was that they had misogynist views of women because they couldn't get into a relationship with them. Therefore they created this crazy conspiracy that the CIA was behind feminism and what not. Truly crazy.

There is no reason to fear women. I can agree with many replies that the best to get to know women is to socialize with them. If you're attractive to her and want to ask her out; well, ask her. Growing up I know women like men who are outgoing, have a sense of humor, and have confidence.