Americans , aren't you going to do something

The majority Christian USA is at war with Islam, no matter how many times proven liar president Obama says otherwise.

There is an ongoing "secret" program to keep the region destabilized, to prevent any substantial threat to the United States and to keep the oil flowing. The middle east united under Islam is a threat to America.

The war with Syria is part of this ongoing campaign. I don't see why it's a big deal, this campaign has been going on since the 80s and is continuing on like normal.

Originally posted by Goldcurrent
I only read up until page 6 before I had to make my reply so if I missed something, bear this in mind...

The majority of the average N. Americans do not care about Wahhabis, Sunnis, Shias, or any such derivation. We honestly don't care that whatever religious squabbles you may have in the Mid-East should affect our daily lives. That is a sad undeniable truth.

Before globalization and the information age of the internet, most people in our immediate civilization were Christians and knew little of the 'reasons' behind mid-east conflict, other than there was conflict.

Now the U.S. is pegged as a world police force...why? Are there not countries in Europe, and Asia that can deal with this garbage?

Why must western nations concern themselves over this crap anyways?

I wish the U.S., Canada, UK, etc. could just close the borders for awhile and see if the rest of the world implodes without us.

I do not wish to see my children involved in a war overseas for reasons truly unbeknownst to me.

This is the true nature of our reality. We're better off without the rest of the 2nd and 3rd world sucking at our teat.

This may be cruel and heartless, but sometimes you have to clean up your own dogs**t in your own backyard.

Do you really believe that you Americans are going to war overseas to help others ?

It's all about the money baby.

Your country would be a #hole without the military–industrial complex, that's the only reason you go to war.

SO please, for the sake of the rest of the world, Isolate yourself..i think we'll do just fine without you.

reply to post by mideast


my reply is my opinion not a stated fact:

as long as people can log into their facebook, twitter, ATS, email, and whatever else they do, no one will care.

as long as people can stand in line to buy a $4 coffee no one will care.

as long as people continue to believe there is a difference between democrat and republican, no one will care.

America doesn't care about war when it is on a foreign soil. America doesn't care about how much it costs (in money and lives) to sustain war in several countries as long as they believe welfare recipients and migrant workers are to blame for the drain on our social security system and tax funds systems.

I feel for the families in the middle east affected by conflict. I feel for the children who hear gun fire and marching feet outside their homes when they lay down to sleep at night. I feel for the mothers and fathers who lose their sons in defense of their home land.

I wish I had a solution to the problem we face. I can only hope peace and reason will prevail.

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

American citizens can't do anything about the gov't creating chaos in the ME because we know there are gov't guns pointed at us, right now, and our children -

We know the # is about to hit the fan - and, I sure hope there are still decent people left in the military after obama attempted to filter them out.

According to the recent gallup poll, only 9% of us citizens want our military involved in Syria - I think that's about right.

The rest of us cannot do anything about it - we will be gunned down if we protest - or worse.

this may be true but protests have to get out of hand before they turn sour. I know it seems like they've been preparing for something...a large emergency response which could be natural disaster or large civil unrest and there is reason for caution. Protest is not the only option though. At the very least, the public needs to make it be known that they do not stand behind this and would support those with better intentions and standards than what we are seeing. Not everyone in the world who has power and influence is so spoiled by it... not even in the US. Anyone anywhere who has the power to effect change should be made certain that their intentions would be well received. It may not be wise to attempt holding large unorganized protests at the present time, but we are able to convene over such things and speak out.We are able to spread awareness to the ones who do not realize why they are being lied to or how obvious it is if they would just take the time to look beneath the surface.

The government is powerful, but a lot of that power is simply afforded to them because nobody stands in their way. that's something very strange about American society. Crime, bad things happen all the time... hidden in plain sight because people in this society have learned that if they pretend like they have a right to do what they are doing, they will likely get away with quite a bit. I have seen so called upstanding citizens do dirty crap most of my life... and this is another reason that the facade that bad things don't happen in america just sickens me. they happen all the time. sexism, racism, abuse... it's happens all the time, but here many have learned how to disguise it as normal behavior.

reply to post by mideast


They will just as soon kill us as well as you. This country has the highest prison population in the world, and population in prison per capita. We try to vote decently but the system is stacked with complicit criminals everywhere we look. Protesting doesn't work, being civilly responsible doesn't work. We are just as screwed as the rest of the world, just differently.

reply to post by NotAnAspie


the vast majority of people are against this military intervention and realize that our gov't is out of control.

Have you watched any of the garbage that is spewed on the tv about assad and how we have to save the children from him? People are seeing for the first time, I think, what garbage is fed to us - even democrats.

These chemical weapons were smuggled from Libya - and they won't even investigate benghazi anymore - these criminals are so empowered - or they're desperate, as they know their lies are starting to fall apart.

The media is even planning to enthrone hillary - sickening.......

The old school republicans are certainly one and the same .....

Something big is about to happen - and the whole world will become victimized by all these criminals.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
Iran before the Revolution


Tell me again how wonderful you all have it there. Seems like my worst nightmare and you want to bring it here to America. Not going to happen.

Not only do some want to bring their way of life here, but some of our psychopathic leaders and representatives want this same type of compliance, obedience and control over the American people.

At this point, we cannot even claim our constitutional rights on the street, during an arrest, or anywhere without being noted as a right wing conservative/domestic terrorist. Our founding fathers are now considered extremists.

The comparison I see between your videos and where our country is heading is truly frightening to me.

I want to do something. Yes, I want to take my family the hell out of here before it gets really bad. But I love my country, despite the extremely misguided and insane leaders that we have, I still love it here and I want to see many of the good things restored. Including our constitutional rights, and our rights to privacy.

Originally posted by Happy1
reply to post by NotAnAspie

 

the vast majority of people are against this military intervention and realize that our gov't is out of control.

Have you watched any of the garbage that is spewed on the tv about assad and how we have to save the children from him? People are seeing for the first time, I think, what garbage is fed to us - even democrats.

And once again, I ask, why are these children more important than the ones that Obama kills during his drone strikes? No one acknowledges them. They did not deserve to die either. I'm seriously baffled as to how Obama and Kerry, can carry on about the children in Syria, when they have the blood of Pakistani children on their hands.

Originally posted by orangutang

Originally posted by Goldcurrent
reply to post by Goldcurrent

 

Before I get flamed for my isolationist views, I just don't remember having presbyterians, catholics, protestants, gas and firebomb each other in my lifetime. You know, we all seem to get along....maybe civility and tolerance is needed in your parts. J

Just a thought.....

i guess you've never heard of ireland's protestants and catholics.


just a thought

I knew that would come back to bite me

However, I don't recall the U.S., Canada, France, or any other country sending Air Strikes and/or military reinforcements. Correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't that conflict taken care in-house? Britain and UK? Were chemical weapons deployed and the UN involved?

Originally posted by ArtooDetoo

Originally posted by Goldcurrent
I only read up until page 6 before I had to make my reply so if I missed something, bear this in mind...

The majority of the average N. Americans do not care about Wahhabis, Sunnis, Shias, or any such derivation. We honestly don't care that whatever religious squabbles you may have in the Mid-East should affect our daily lives. That is a sad undeniable truth.

Before globalization and the information age of the internet, most people in our immediate civilization were Christians and knew little of the 'reasons' behind mid-east conflict, other than there was conflict.

Now the U.S. is pegged as a world police force...why? Are there not countries in Europe, and Asia that can deal with this garbage?

Why must western nations concern themselves over this crap anyways?

I wish the U.S., Canada, UK, etc. could just close the borders for awhile and see if the rest of the world implodes without us.

I do not wish to see my children involved in a war overseas for reasons truly unbeknownst to me.

This is the true nature of our reality. We're better off without the rest of the 2nd and 3rd world sucking at our teat.

This may be cruel and heartless, but sometimes you have to clean up your own dogs**t in your own backyard.

Do you really believe that you Americans are going to war overseas to help others ?

It's all about the money baby.

Your country would be a #hole without the military–industrial complex, that's the only reason you go to war.

SO please, for the sake of the rest of the world, Isolate yourself..i think we'll do just fine without you.

My country isn't the U.S. but thanks for replying.

Yes many conflicts are over the $$$$. However, if you think U.S. and Canada would be worse off without globalization then I'd say bring it on!!!!

Close the borders, ramp up domestic production, get rid of foreign imported crap, and let us sustain ourselves. I think we'd do just fine.

It seems to me the Asians, and Middle East can keep the cheap toys, electronics, and oil, and we'll keep our food/crops, technology, patents, oh oil, gas, and values.

Thanks for playing.

BTW, can we take back all the inventions created here the past few hundred years? Keep them here? Because without mid-east innovations we'd all really be in the dark ages I suppose

reply to post by mideast


We all know this, but unless we have a full out revolution, there is nothing, we the people, can do.
Our entire country is ruled by about 500 people who make the laws.
They have militarized our police force, made it so we cannot speak our minds or do any sort of civil protest. We can now be deemed a terrorist, for just protesting these wars WE DO NOT WANT OR BELIEVE IN.

Big corporations fuel our government with money, andoour government declares war on oil producing countries, to keep the corporations rich and happy, while Americans lose their homes in foreclosures.

These idiots act as if the alleged nerve gas attack was on us or Europe.
How can we declare war on a country, not attacking us?

Our government is stupid. This will not end well ..

reply to post by Taissa


Obama has been drone striking Iran, Syria and Pakistan, since he took office.
His indignance in regard to all of this, just shows his acting lessons not paying off.
Every time this guy addresses one of his lame false flags, he should get a raspberry award.

To answer OP's question on why Americans aren't doing anything....

Because it's easier to just move to Canada. You have to remember that Obama bribed a lot of people, and the minority now has the majority of votes, and the new minority works for a living while the new majority sits around and votes for these politicians and policies all day as long as they get free stuff out of it.

Are you an illegal immigrant? Here, have amnesty! But remember who granted you and your whole family amnesty! You could pick up a gun and start fighting but you'll be alone in this battle. There's a such thing called the "pussification of America" and it's quite real. If you want to stand up for your fellow country men, you'll just get locked up, killed, and all of what was remaining of your happiness will be permanently taken away from you.

Most people are hanging onto what little happiness they can still grab, and the fear of losing that is too much to actually stand up and fight. Quite honestly, I think that if this is the case, then all americans should just get up and leave the country because you can't be a king without its people. Of course, if all of the working class (35% of all Americans) moves to another country, then you have a country that goes nowhere. I think that would be the ultimate form of protest but of course that will never happen.

Originally posted by John_Rodger_Cornman

Originally posted by TinfoilTP

Originally posted by mideast
Salam and peace ATS members.

I was thinking much about the situation we are in for almost one year.

Syria. It has been clear for you who these rebels are. And if it isn't , check here

I want to talk some sentences to American people..

You know that US govt was involved in Iraq and Afghanistan based on lies and they were brain washing people before 9/11 ans WMD's.

You saw that GWB from Skull & Bones torn these countries apart.Now it is turn for John Kerry.

How comes that you still buy what your govt is telling you and don't stand against it ?

What is wrong with you ?

Aren't you going to do something ?

Chemical weapons are a no no.

I ask you, why you want to let Assad's regime mow down more of humanity with chemical weapons?

It's a done deal, the US vice President Joe Biden has stated in public that Assad is guilty of using chemical weapons.

Bombs away and pass the popcorn, retribution is on its way to teach Assad a lesson for crossing the red line.

How do you know that assad used chemical weapons?

From this lying a** government?

Come on.

Does it really matter who used them? The Syrians allowed chems to be used on themselves is the bottom line,whether we support the rebels or not.

If Secretary Kerry is fulfilling his end of some kind of devious plan hashed up back in the sixties at skull & bones and it's gotten this far along

There's not a whole hell of a lot anyone is gonna be able to do about it

IMH&HWO (In my humble & hopefully wrong opinion)

reply to post by sulaw


I guess that hanging homosexual's is one way to deal with genetic defects in humans. But the fact is that most Islamic's prefer men to women and runs rampant in Islamic countries.

We don't we do something as Ameri-can'ts? Well . . . because we have our X-boxes, our McMansions, our leased cars, and the risk taking characteristics that made America great died decades ago. We no longer are willing to die for what the Constitution of the US stands for, it is given lip service.

We no longer have citizens who believe this country is worth dying for, instead . . . the citizen army (draft) has been replaced with an army of paid mercernaries, whose loyalty lies not with the citizens of this country but with a corrupt government and executive branch which orchestrates wars to protect corporate business interests in the Middle East. This government willingly turn these "professional soldiers" into cannon fodder without a second thought.

Boys and girls . . . we are a banana republic and our political system is corrupt. Someday the wheel will have come full circle, and when 99% of the population of this country become destitute, perhaps we will find those who have corrupted our government swinging from lamp poles in Washington. Adios Amigos. John

"The entire money structured society is a false society, we have the brains, the know-how, the technology and the feasibility to build an entirely new civilization but the choice lies with you, the stupidity of a nuclear arms race, the development of weapons, trying to solve your problems politically by electing this political party or that political party, it was great - the free enterprise system - about 35 years ago. That was the last of its usefulness. Now, we have got to change our way of thinking or perish."-Jacque Fresco

reply to post by ArtooDetoo

Your country would be a #hole without the military–industrial complex.

well thank god we have the military–industrial complex.. And since you don't I guess your country is a s@@T hole..

NINE pages later and we are all still waiting for the OP to answer ...

Mideast ... aren't you going to do something about Iran's terrorist activities
and Iran's involvement in Syria???

Iranian Strategy in Syria - Institute for the Study of War

The Islamic Republic of Iran has conducted an extensive, expensive, and integrated effort to keep President Bashar al-Assad in power as long as possible while setting conditions to retain its ability to use Syrian territory and assets to pursue its regional interests should Assad fall.

The Iranian security and intelligence services are advising and assisting the Syrian military in order to preserve Bashar al-Assad’s hold on power. These efforts have evolved into an expeditionary training mission using Islamic Revolutionary Guards Corps (IRGC) Ground Forces, Quds Force, intelligence services, and law enforcement forces. The deployment of IRGC Ground Forces to conflict abroad is a notable expansion of Iran’s willingness and ability to project military force beyond its borders.

Iran has been providing essential military supplies to Assad, primarily by air. Opposition gains in Syria have interdicted many ground resupply routes between Baghdad and Damascus, and the relative paucity of Iranian port-visits in Syria suggests that Iran’s sea-lanes to Syria are more symbolic than practical. The air line of communication between Iran and Syria is thus a key vulnerability for Iranian strategy in Syria. Iran would not be able to maintain its current level of support to Assad if this air route were interdicted through a no-fly zone or rebel capture of Syrian airfields.

How about you acknowledge that Iran has it's tentacles all through Syria and the Middle East ... and that Iran meddles in the affairs of countries around the world ... and that Iran sponsors terrorists around the world? You scream that Americans should 'so something' and then you say 'what's wrong with you?' ... well, I'm asking you the exact same question back. It's been nine pages. How about you address these issues????

reply to post by FlyersFan


The op is never going to answer that because it does not fit his agenda of "its all Americas fault always"