An image of Comet Ison or is it really a comet?

I have a Theory

Kind of a bit scary and i'm being totally serious.

This is definitely in 3 pieces (Ison), I know my photography, I've read through thread looked at images, been following ison news all along, i'm 100% sure this comet is in three pieces.

I think it's expected to scatter when it rounds the sun. It's going to out gas in different directions and they can't predict exactly where all three pieces are going to go...

I'm thinking it's possible that's what all the hubub is about... the "possibility" of collision, the ammo, the bunkers being built pronto the vanishing money and spending without care....

we "might" be hit by one of the three, they can't accurately predict when it scatters what will happen, only "odds" and very educated guesses so the are scared.

reply to post by penninja


I think you are correct, it has split into 3 parts.
Case solved... next :-)

Hi, just wanted to pop in and say I've been following this intriguing thread from the start. ( maybe time I said something as im starting to feel like a stalker & its weird lol ) I have no idea what I'm looking at.

Love the thread, the ideas that posters are coming up with, the conversation and IMO it doesn't seem to happen on this level much.

It's becoming my addiction, need to check ATS to find out if someone's 100% without any doubt figured this out. A lot of great possibilitys or explanations. I guess we all have to wait



P:S flagged & stared much earlier from a thread lurker

Originally posted by Yummy Freelunch

Originally posted by NeoParadigm
reply to post by Yummy Freelunch

 

I never said it was a ufo..BUT..if its ice..which i dont believe comets are, anyway..why is it so geometrically perfect? I mean, its flying through space at how many miles an hour, and still stays perfectly symmetrical?

Because it is not zoomed in enough to see the actual shape, and it radiates (infrared) light so in the pics it always will show up like a round bright dot, or in this case a line(because of 440 second exposure). I think they are naturally roundish too because of the forces they are under. Not sure though.

If this were true..the stars would look like lines as well, since they are roundish, also.

edit on 18-8-2013 by Yummy Freelunch because: (no reason given)

but the stars are NOT roundish.... Notice the diffraction spikes radiating from them? That is caused by the optics of the telescope. Combine that with the tracking of the telescope, to keep the stars stationary, and you might just have the answer, Add to that that you are viewing a ball tumbling around as it moved through space, and you will get different reflectivity depending on its shape, etc...... and that might very well cause what you are observing... Diffraction spikes dimming and brigthening as the objects tumbles through space in this 400 odd second exposure.

Why has this been moved to the gray area?

Regardless of whether it is fully explained or not the thread is one of the more interesting ones to come along in a while and the posts are informative. Its surely more appropriate to be in the the Space or Alien and UFO sections.

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Not very bright of NASA to at least "dr" the photo a little more to make it appear more comet like after the first glance. Apparently they really do think everybody is a sheeple.

Good catch OP. Whatever it is it's not a comet after closer examination.

BTW you were right, your first link didn't work, thanks for catching it.

Great find.

I inverted the image and clicked the darker button a couple times, it actually started to resemble a more regular asteroid shape, but still VERY interesting find.

Again great thread OP, ill be keeping my eye on it.

Originally posted by penninja
I have a Theory

Kind of a bit scary and i'm being totally serious.

This is definitely in 3 pieces (Ison), I know my photography, I've read through thread looked at images, been following ison news all along, i'm 100% sure this comet is in three pieces.

I think it's expected to scatter when it rounds the sun. It's going to out gas in different directions and they can't predict exactly where all three pieces are going to go...

I'm thinking it's possible that's what all the hubub is about... the "possibility" of collision, the ammo, the bunkers being built pronto the vanishing money and spending without care....

we "might" be hit by one of the three, they can't accurately predict when it scatters what will happen, only "odds" and very educated guesses so the are scared.

Unfortunately, I think you are correct. Some people were saying the overhyped and nonexistent 2012 scenario was off by a year. When we least expect it..................

If the tail is supposed to be pointing away form the sun does that not make light reflections on wrong side of comet from camera angle ?

Originally posted by Bilk22
reply to post by Yummy Freelunch

 

Is this it?

I couldn't see this on the original Image! Doesn't look like a Star to me.... looks like a huge Ship but this post is before I have read other replies which probably explain it.

Very interesting.

Could it be a UFO behind the Comet? Using the Comet to pull it along???

Originally posted by rayuki
not sure if its been brought up but could it possibly mean its 3 distinct "objects" making up the 1 comet? is that even possible? would explain the lines due to exposure if its coming off 3 separate objects to make up the 1 giant comet.

perhaps it was 1 massive comet that got effected due to some gravitational force through out its life that split it into 3?

edit on 19-8-2013 by rayuki because: (no reason given)

either way its awesome, this is the reason i come to ATS! great stuff!

edit on 19-8-2013 by rayuki because: (no reason given)

Well, there was news that ISON could be breaking apart. We do not know its properties and its impossible to know does it survive long enough to be visible to naked eye later this year. Sun might warm it too much and it could break apart, comets are mainly formed from ice.

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If that theory holds water..... Then the comet made a sharp turn. Correct me if I am wrong, but they cannot do that.

Originally posted by 1loserel2
reply to post by Yummy Freelunch

 

Not very bright of NASA to at least "dr" the photo a little more to make it appear more comet like after the first glance. Apparently they really do think everybody is a sheeple.

Good catch OP. Whatever it is it's not a comet after closer examination.

BTW you were right, your first link didn't work, thanks for catching it.

You mean that NASA "forget" to censor the dark image, while they made it look more comet-like in other pictures. NASA is not that stupid. Maybe its some kind of prank they made, some summer worked has photoshopped it look like giant spaceship

Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth

That is so cool. It you can wrap your mind around it being a craft, even the wings are uniform. Amazing. I'm not surprised this was the last image!

What will be the 'logical' thing this turns out to be, I wonder? Lens effect, zoom effect? That is a really awesome find.

S n' F

Cirque

Probably the same logical thing that led to elinin and planet X destroying earth already

Originally posted by penninja
I have a Theory

Kind of a bit scary and i'm being totally serious.

This is definitely in 3 pieces (Ison), I know my photography, I've read through thread looked at images, been following ison news all along, i'm 100% sure this comet is in three pieces.

I think it's expected to scatter when it rounds the sun. It's going to out gas in different directions and they can't predict exactly where all three pieces are going to go...

I'm thinking it's possible that's what all the hubub is about... the "possibility" of collision, the ammo, the bunkers being built pronto the vanishing money and spending without care....

we "might" be hit by one of the three, they can't accurately predict when it scatters what will happen, only "odds" and very educated guesses so the are scared.

Comet ISON doesn't pose threat to Earth. Its estimated flight path will be over 63 million kilometers away. When Earth passes through ISON orbit, it will be halfway between orbits of Earth and Mars. Those comet pieces are so close to each other that they will interact with each other gravitationally, keeping them close to each other. And if comet really is in 3 parts, it will surely break apart and will not be visible to naked eye when it gets closer to the Sun. Even as whole, it might just break apart to millions of pieces when Sun heats it too much.

Originally posted by justwokeup
Why has this been moved to the gray area?

Regardless of whether it is fully explained or not the thread is one of the more interesting ones to come along in a while and the posts are informative. Its surely more appropriate to be in the the Space or Alien and UFO sections.

I'm still sure its camera anomaly, notice how stars are not visible as lines. The exposures were taken aligned with stars, and as comet doesn't have linear path (It wobbles) it causes streaks. If the exposures were taken aligned with the comet, stars would be visible as lines.

Originally posted by nataylor
And here's a image where I've zoomed in on the plotted locations in Starry Night, then pasted the Hubble image over it and just rotated it. You can see the paths match up nicely.

This post is worthy citing again since it's the only ONE reasonable and right post in this entire thread.
In fact, the thread could have ended right there.

My only question remains, why does NASA take pictures where the result is a distortion of what's actually seen? To me it's like wanting to show someone a nice new car and taking a 20 second exposure while the car zooms by on a highway with 100mph. The resulting picture will only be a blurred streak, it won't show "the car".

Furthermore I think it's amazing how so many people blindly believe their eyes and "immediately" conclude from the pictures...including things like "it has broken apart etc."

I could therefore easily convince anyone of you that there are 5 doubles of me just by taking a long exposure shot with me in it a few times. Would you then also conclude, undeniably and without a doubt that I exist 5x because this WHAT YOU SEE on the picture?

UNLESS someone can debunk nataylor's findings and the topic for me is done. He did a great job explaining.

reply to post by NoRulesAllowed

This post is worthy citing again since it's the only ONE reasonable and right post in this entire thread. In fact, the thread could have ended right there. My only question remains, why does NASA take pictures where the result is a distortion of what's actually seen? To me it's like wanting to show someone a nice new car and taking a 20 second exposure while the car zooms by on a highway with 100mph. The resulting picture will only be a blurred streak, it won't show "the car".

Multiple people have been saying this from the beginning of the thread.

Your question was also answered in the beginning of the thread and reposted multiple times.

These exposures were made while the telescope tracked the stars. Because of the motion of the comet and the motion of HST in its orbit around the Earth, the comet trailed slightly relative to the stars during and between these exposures. This is not the way comets are usually observed. Normally we would track on the comet to keep it stationary in the camera during the exposure. However, in this case we wanted to produce an image of the comet against a background clearly showing stars and galaxies.

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by NeoParadigm

 

If that theory holds water..... Then the comet made a sharp turn. Correct me if I am wrong, but they cannot do that.

At this point it is getting annoying.. It has been explained mutliple times. The comet didn´t make a turn, Hubble did making it look like the comet changed its path.

Originally posted by NeoParadigm
reply to post by thepolish1

 

Then we come to the change of trajectory, if it did that, at the angle it did, It is NOT a comet. It would be under some sort of intelligent control. Now, here is my guess, the comet has the tail following it, the angled lines are the reflection of the sun on the tail.

The Hubble telescope's position changed which is what caused the angle, the comet didn't change trajectory.

Also what you think is the tail is not the tail. It is a blob of overexposure to light in the image. I think.

So you know they propose plans any time the Hubble is used well in advance they also plan each image and how long each image will take and any correction in the camera that need to be made. They did a course correction during a viewing and planned it that way? Why not have the course correction and then return to collecting data?