Evolution backed up by Hoaxes and Desperate Lies

reply to post by Xaphan

Scientific facts aren't views or opinions. They are facts backed up by actual research.

The NIST report was backed up by actual research as well...

Science and education are nothing but MASSIVE forms of mind control.

The fact that you actually BELIEVE them is proof of this fact.

"...the Illuminati eventually controlled the science departments in all colleges and institutions of higher learning. The plan was to stifle scientific knowledge and then twist what was left to fit the science they wanted the people to believe. They accomplished this by adopting new rules in regards to scientific research.

Science - The Illuminati Religion and Mind Control Tool for the Masses

"Throughout recorded history, the Illuminati has successfully withheld from humankind major aspects of history and science in order to subjugate the masses"

"Historical, religious and political truths have been withheld from the general public in order to perpetuate armed conflict," he continues. "Similarly if the presently suppressed technology were to be made commercially available, disease, famine and environmental pollution virtually would become eradicated."

By manipulating the souls evolving on earth, the Illuminati have deliberately suppressed the spiritual facts of life, not to mention liberating technologies, which could bring plenitude to all.

Secrets of Suppressed Science and History

Originally posted by blockhead
There is evolution within a species, but not between species. I believe we call that adaptation. Ape is not the same specie as human. Feline is not the same specie as canine, etc etc... A couple of lies and hoaxes? No, ALL lies and hoaxes have been the norm for the last couple hundred years of evolutionary theory....sorry bro...

No, no, no.

"Evolution" within a species is really adaptation.
Between species is evolution.

No one ever SAID that an ape and human or feline and caning are the same species. They're not, look at they phylogenies below. They are in the same taxon. A taxon is just a group. Family, class, order, whatever, any distinct group. They share common ancestry.

Primate phylogeny


Carnivore phylogeny

reply to post by Murgatroid


OR...

Maybe the scientific method is actually a logical process.

Originally posted by robin22391


However, some ideologies have a far larger presence of lying cheating brainwashing...this is clearly ideologies such as creationism and religion in general...

A lie is a lie. It really doesn't matter which ideology tells 'more' lies. If a lie is needed to prove a point, it simply turns people away from the truth. Lying to prove a point is brainwashing no matter which side of the debate you fall on.

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Science and education are nothing but MASSIVE forms of mind control.

You think Religion isn't

reply to post by ravenshadow13


I appreciate your comments, but I have to mention that there is much bias in scientific journals. To say otherwise is to ignore blatant facts about them:

"But what happens when the people who are in charge of these journals are the same ones who write IPCC reports?...Today’s exhibit is the Journal of Climate. It’s published by the American Meteorological Society – which certainly sounds reputable. But let’s take a look at its IPCC connections...It’s chief editor, Anthony J. Broccoli, was a contributing author and expert reviewer for the IPCC’s 2007 report...Nathan Gillett, one of its editors, served in four separate AR4 capacities – as a lead author, an expert reviewer for both Working Group 1 and Working Group 2, and as an expert reviewer of the Synthesis Report. He is now a lead author for the upcoming IPCC report...Marika Holland, another editor at the Journal of Climate, contributed to two chapters of the 2007 climate bible...Editor Andrew Pitman was an IPCC lead author, a contributing author, and an expert reviewer for the 2007 edition. Moreover, he’s involved in the upcoming report as a review editor...As editor James Renwick’s bio page makes clear, he was a contributing author to the 2001 IPCC report, a lead author for the 2007 report, and is currently a lead author for AR5...editor Brian Soden was a 2007 contributing author and an expert reviewer who is currently serving as an AR5 lead author...Editor Shang-Ping Xie is currently an AR5 lead author, and editor Michael Alexander was a 2007 IPCC expert reviewer."

SOURCE

The Backstory to the ‘Fleeing Species’ Claim

How Bad Are Peer Reviewed Journals? Geophysical Research Letters' Editors Calais & Diffenbaugh Reveal How Bad

Bias in animal study research

I can go on and on with obvious bias. The fact is if you want grant money and a career in science you better not ever go against the accepted truths within science. Imagine if Darwin were alive today and we had no theory of evolution. His theory would never have been published if different people who disagree with him controlled science journals and all educational processes.

Imagine if ID people were caught falsifying their work. You know that would be screamed from the rooftops and used to negate anything they ever presented in the future because they are known liars desperate to prove intelligent design. The hypocrisy is mind boggling.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity




Plenty more on the potholer54 site for you to LEARN something about creationist LIARS!!!

Originally posted by wmd_2008
You think Religion isn't

Actually no....

Evolutionism IS religion.

Satan uses religion (including evolution) to turn people AWAY from the truth and away from God.

The elite created religion as a tool with a stealth agenda.

Religion will NEVER tell you the TRUTH...

Religion is one massive LIE that was created as a mind control weapon designed to cover up the truth about God.

"Every major religion in the world has been manufactured or infiltrated by the Illuminati to enslave and brainwash society. In essence, religion was the first form of mind control." Link

The "God Theory" can step in at any point and say...Ahh hah that is exactly how God intended.

Anything resembling evolution..... Why couldn't God have pee'd in the ocean to know full well what the end result would be over a few billion years? So in the end science is just examining the working mechanics of creation.

So those that espouse evolution only to deny God, they will never win that argument, ever.
To espouse evolution as an understanding of the observed with no impossible goal of excluding God, is only human nature. Introduce the unnecessary exclusion of God and it becomes all muddled.

To some when they see the term evolution, they see an attempt by humanity to understand what has happened and possibly what will happen. But when they look at the actual historical use of the term, it has become it's own religion to replace God. Too bad, as with most good ideas it has become perverted.

reply to post by UnifiedSerenity


That is true, but that is the vast minority of publications.

And the bright side of the field of science is that if someone believes that you have falsified your work, they can test your claims in their own study and seek publication in the same journal OR another journal OR a site like PLoS and make it clear that scientists aren't doing their job.

Scientists frown upon falsification just as much as anyone else would.

Originally posted by JameSimon

Originally posted by Jobeycool
Not the smartest person and I do not have an a master degree or anything but I cannot stand the madness of evolution being blindly followed.So much crap with this subject and brainwashing and hoaxes and control over it with education and power that never is exposed by mainstream and honest science.
Some people won't even teach evolution as a theory anymore that is how dishonest and ridiculous it has become.

It's funny that usually it's religion that uses brainwashing techniques on his followers.

Both sides have people who brainwash.Called common sense.Why do the evolutionist never admit how much crap goes on with it.I clearly understand how radical and some religous folks can be.Like it is an ongoing battle and fight to understand the concept of being honest or being a honest skeptic.

reply to post by Murgatroid


You must have your conspiracy book of CLICHES open!!!!

I would be grateful if participants of this thread would check out the one that I just made...

Survey for those who do not believe in evolution

reply to post by wmd_2008


You are obviously not going to even look at the math involved in this amino acid creating the building blocks for life. It's been thoroughly proven that this chance combination to make the building blocks of life, proteins etc would be astronomically improbable.

reply to post by ravenshadow13

OR... Maybe the scientific method is actually a logical process.

Or perhaps you've swallowed far too many blue pills and believe whatever you WANT to believe.

Let me guess, you actually BELIEVE the NIST report...

The process isn't the problem.

The agenda and people BEHIND it are.

Like I said...

Science - The Illuminati Religion and Mind Control Tool for the Masses

Originally posted by JameSimon


Because kids need to know the latest supported theories, not fairytales. It's a must that children learn evolution, big bang theory and, most importantly, scientific analisys. Why, you may ask? Because they'll learn what is a theory, what are arguments that support theories and how they can be disproofed with other, more coherent arguments. Learning the bible and criationism teaches kids a lie, limits their brain to one thing. Just watch this thread, it's ridiculous someone believing that the bible is source of knowledge and then saying that evolution is a hoax.

Need to know the latest supported theories? The problem is, although they are called theories, they are taught as fact. Frankly, children are not taught the difference. Children are not taught how to use their brains to discern fact from theory. Children today are taught to regurgitate. They are taught 'what' to think instead of 'how' to think.

The OP has asked us to stay on topic. Some seem to insist on claiming he/she must be supporting Christianity since he/she is not supporting evolution. I have tried to read every post on this thread so far. Christianity is a broad topic and although I have seen the comment that Christianity is being intentionally undermined, I have yet to see the OP espouse any particular 'brand' of religion, nor do I expect him/her to do so. The topic is clearly evolution, not religion. I would prefer to see references to 'proof' of evolution to refute the OP so that I may review them and decide for myself.

Originally posted by H1ght3chHippie
Even though the OP is evidently completely clueless regarding mulecular genetics and evolution in general, he made me think about the fact that modern science, upto this day, has failed to provide a sound theory on how the first complex amino acids were able to form the first living cell.

I'll give him that.

You shouldn't. This is just a testament to you not being familiar with the relevant scientific literature.

reply to post by ravenshadow13

Scientists frown upon falsification just as much as anyone else would.

So do governments and politicians...

Your argument is meaningless.

Originally posted by blockhead
In case you missed the news, there is NO evidence of evolution what-so-ever.

You reality denialists are hilarious.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity
reply to post by wmd_2008

 

You are obviously not going to even look at the math involved in this amino acid creating the building blocks for life. It's been thoroughly proven that this chance combination to make the building blocks of life, proteins etc would be astronomically improbable.

YOU sure about that!!!!