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Originally posted by WanDash
Oh - Oh - Oh - Mr. Cotter!!!!
I found an answer to something I think is very relevant to questions I've been asking...
Don't have all the specifics...but...
A gentleman has placed a video on YouTube attempting to prove that the water is coming from underground-ruptured pipes... (He simply didn't have miner49r to straighten him out, like I did...)
Here is the YouTube video...
That, however is not the point...
A responder to his video stated...
...Adriaen22Wordpress 3 weeks ago
You did an outstanding job on this video!!! But I ask you to rethink the concrete/water main/crater theory. There was a U shaped hard plastic pipe there. The pipe was sheared off and it traveled quite a distance at a high velocity. It ended up scarring a tree in the front yard of a home near Clinton on the north bound side. The police found it deep in the yard. I have a photo of the pipe stump if you'd like to see...just go to my blog. adriaen22
That is absolutely relevant...concerning the possibility of whether the undercarriage could have been damaged and the fuel line ruptured by the "protruding pipe"...as...there...it seems apparent that - the pipe was already on its way down the street by the time the undercarriage &/or fuel line would have been in an appropriate position to receive such damage (or - to engage the pipe).
If you don't see the significance I do... No worries... I'll just sit on it, 'til it gels.
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by WanDash
...On the very first thread started on Michael Hasting's accident, someone indicated that he had a home within a few blocks of the accident. I never figured out if he was traveling in the direction of or away from his home.
He absolutely wouldn't be using his cellphone and surely had other more clandestine ways to communicate. I am surprised he used his email.
If he was leaving his home maybe someone did lure him out.
Was his wife in New York at the time of the accident??
...I know this is going to sound a little crazy but after reading about his wife's background, a little flag went up. (Honeypot?)
Another person that gives me pause is Biggs. It is because of the forum he used to comment on Michael's demise.
...I think that there are close friends and associates that know a lot more. But the quiet is deafening, isn't it??
He had a house down Melrose Ave on Edinburg Ave. So he was only a few blocks from home.
Originally posted by GrantedBail
...I found the post:
He had a house down Melrose Ave on Edinburg Ave. So he was only a few blocks from home.
...by JBA2848
...Link
...Interesting that this poster knew of his LA address and has been a great contributor to these threads. Not suggesting anything nefarious by the poster but he was on this from the beginning and knew of Hastings' LA address. Who would know that except a close friend or an associate, or "someone else".
Originally posted by GrantedBail
reply to post by WanDash
...So how did he know what Michael's LA address was?
...And have you determined whether he was coming or going??
...Wandash: As intimately as you have been involved with this subject matter how is it that Michael's home address wouldn't be a HUGE deal?
I know this is going to sound a little crazy but after reading about his wife's background, a little flag went up. (Honeypot?)
undercover police routinely formed long-lasting, intimate, relationships with the activists they were sent to spy on. At least two police officers had children with activists while they worked undercover... ...seven-year deployment of the police spy Mark Kennedy, who lived among climate change campaigners and who had several relationships with women upon whom he spied, one of which lasted six years. Three senior judges later found that Kennedy might have acted as an agent provocateur.
Jim Boyling met future wife while infiltrating Reclaim The Streets
Couple had two children but later divorced
Ex wife: Undercover work wrecks lives
Boyling: Having sex with activists was 'necessary tool in maintaining cover'
Another person that gives me pause is Biggs. It is because of the forum he used to comment on Michael's demise.
I think that there are close friends and associates that know a lot more. But the quiet is deafening, isn't it??
Originally posted by MindBodySpiritComplex
reply to post by GrantedBail
...It would be sloppy to not consider such a scenario! Mind you I am not saying "Oh, she totally was... " but the possibility has to be kept in mind. For some this may sound far out...
Those of his friends and associates who are journalists, film makers, publishers, lawyers (Glenn Greenberg is a journalist and lawyer), etc. will only come forward if they have actual proof of foul play. Else they will damage their credibility and may even get in the way of their own investigation of the matter. And I think Buzzfeed made their stance as clear as they possibly could without being declared conspiracy nuts:
$100,000 Michael Hastings National Security Reporting Fellowship - A Reward To Uncover Foul Play?
The silence is deafening
Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by WanDash
…I have reviewed those frames many times and I just don't see it.
I have tried but I can't.
For me there is not enough clarity to see everything you described.
…
Demolitions 101. . ..
…Heat and pressure are REQUIRED to detonate explosives. This does not include Nitro Glycerin.
If you have Just one or the other it will not work.
…
Originally posted by WanDash
Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
reply to post by WanDash
…I have reviewed those frames many times and I just don't see it.
I have tried but I can't.
For me there is not enough clarity to see everything you described.
…
Demolitions 101. . ..
…Heat and pressure are REQUIRED to detonate explosives. This does not include Nitro Glycerin.
If you have Just one or the other it will not work.
…
Thanks for all that information on explosives… Entirely out of my realm/s of experience.
I am not coming at this from an angle of – “I believe there was an explosion, and will see if I can find a way to justify that that is what happened”… Rather…(and it was not apparent when start-stopping the video, either)…it wasn’t until I had “snap-shot” many of the start-stop frames…then stepped-through them in sequence, rapidly (in Windows Photo Viewer)…that it became apparent.
Nevertheless – I’m not really able to justify “explosion”. So – while your information is welcome & genuinely appreciated – I would really need someone with expertise to do some outstanding explaining to get me over the same hurdles you’re having a hard time swallowing.
Conversely – I do not find your explanation on the front end “jumping” when mounting the curb, or the rear end doing the same, when it mounts the curb…either unreasonable…or convincing. It was my first consideration, too…
However, it would have been one tire at a time…climbing that 3” curb…not 2 at a time.
And, the car did not meet the 3” curb at a hard angle…but more like a 15°-20° angle.
There would have been some disturbance to equilibrium…but I would not expect it to have been as dramatic as what I am seeing.
Not to say – however – that, when meeting-up with the metal utility cover/cage…with the car still (possibly) unbalanced…and allowing for the possibility that the “cage” was exceptionally-secured to the concrete pad surrounding the pipe…the sudden resistance could not have caused the nose to “dig” and the rear to “lift”… But …it appears to me, that the “lift” began before meeting the cage.
…so…
If you scroll down the page of adriaen22’s blog …to the blog dated July 18, 2013, entitled – Michael Hastings – Death by Mercedes?…then scroll a little further into said “blog”…there are three photos of interest… The first, shown below (here)…is the metal utility cage…that was found almost the same distance from the crash as the engine/tranny… It has, apparently, been moved back to (or near) its pre-crash location in this photo as of the photo-date…being June 28, 2013...
The other two photos are too large to upload to ATS…so, here’s the description…
One is of the damage done to a tree “in a front yard” on the north-bound side of North Highland Avenue…almost to Clinton St…near where the sheared-off u-shaped PVC pipe was found.
The other, is of “what remained” of the u-shaped PVC pipe…at its pre-crash location.
From the first of those two photos, it is apparent that the broken-off piece of PVC was still travelling at high velocity, when meeting the tree.
From the second of those photos…it is apparent that after meeting the front end of the car (or – the force of the dislodged cage) there was no (or – virtually no) possibility that any pipe would have been in position to stretch high enough, to meet with the car’s undercarriage – much less, the fuel line or fuel tank.
Anyway – thanks again for the help.
so agin we have:
FACT ONE: car go fast
Fact two: car go boom.
Originally posted by BobAthome
FACT ONE: car go fast
...
est. speed from video,,,100mph?? easy guess,,
So is this still a undeniable fact??????
...
if yes,,
...did the driver ever recieve any speeding ticks before??,,,such a thing should be checable.