Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM to announce

Prepare for your wives to call in and have that porn feature turned off. You deserve it Brits.

reply to post by ThreeBears


Three Pedo Bears

Relax

Nothing good seems to ever go on when you involve Nigeria, doesn't really mean much to the rest of the world, all this stuff your talking about is underground scum, go to LA where the Porn 99% of the rest of us look at is produced there are a lot of very happy, well off, interesting girls...

What your doing is comparing a person who likes to go out a couple times a month for an expensive dinner to a 850 lb mental patient with Prader Willi Syndrome

Mental disorders and crimes stem from ALL things the world doesn't need to cater to the psychos.

Originally posted by ThaEnigma

Originally posted by Swizzy
reply to post by mikegrouchy

 

Missing the point entirely.

Why should EVERY adult with internet access be subjected to this because of negligent parenting and lack of education on this subject?

Because
1. There are too many negligent parents..
2. The ease and accessibility of online pornography and hyper-sexualized images can be quite hamful to young unsuspecting children's minds..
3. Isn't it easy to make a choice within your home if you wish to be exposed to uncensored material.. (I for one would be ok with that)..
4. It's easy to turn this discussion into a "nanny-state" argument, but in this case, with the proliferation of pornography to unseen levels, it has become a worthwhile topic to debate with regards to protecting our society and its values...

You've missed the point being made there, entirely.
The issue is that me and millions of other internet users shouldn't have to pay the price because parents aren't making any effort whatsoever to do something as simple as learn how to put blocks or filters in place. ISP's should shoulder the responsibility of ensuring parents are informed enough to place a block on their network, and if they're not they shouldn't have the internet. Like any piece of technology or information, it should be regulated, and in a house with children the burden must be placed on the adults to make sure they're proficient enough to monitor their kids, and also to limit what they can and cannot access.
As an analogy, I have no driving license. If I go to a car dealership, and "opted-in" to a contract to drive safely, would the dealer sell me a car? No, he'd tell me I'd need a license.
Similarly, if a parent goes to an ISP and says "One internet, please," the ISP should ask them if they know how to implement parental filters, prevent their children from using a proxy to bypass those filters, how to use monitoring software. If the parent looks at them like this they can't have any internet until they can do these things.
I mean, it's not particularly hard to learn how to do them. Or even really time consuming. It's just pure lack of knowledge from parents who are only (in the last decade or so) really making use of computers which the children of the last decade have grown up with. Unfortunately, the parents must shoulder all of the blame here, as it's their job to keep on top of things like this. I, and those like me, have absolutely nothing to do with the porn in their homes, and don't ant anything to do with it. I don't want to opt-in or out, I don't want to be grouped with them, and I don't want the government SETTING A PRECEDENT for the monitoring and snooping of our internet usage. Seriously, the things I find myself looking at at 4am freak me out. I don't want a stranger knowing and assuming I'm psychotic.

Anyway, watching Cameron's various interviews, it seems the main focus of this move was to stop the spread of child pornography. Which this won't really impact. They'll just stop using something as traceable as the internet, and start moving their material by hand.

The issue isn't that porn exists and kids can access it.
Please. Porn's been around as long as sex has been around, and kids have always had access to it. Whether that was sneaking away to read a pinched magazine in the 30's, or searching for something on Google.

In short, it's not my fault parents aren't 1337. LRN2 INTERNET

Originally posted by beezzer
Shouldn't this be a decision best made in the home instead of a de facto decision made by government?

Pornography negatively impacts any society. It's unnatural to see other women without their consent to you personally. I agree with this and I hope it becomes a global decision. We don't need it. It does no good. Too many people take advantage of immature, adolescent girls, and those girls get into drugs and that path is a short one and anyone who's using the images is contributing to their habits, way of life, and in some cases, their eventual death.


Flame on internet porn geeks...

reply to post by BMorris


#3 By conducting the act of legislating the collection of information (personal data) about a subject that has been labeled as 'dirty', they effectively pull a protective curtain around themselves, who by many accounts, are guilty of trafficking the real deal into their taxpayer supplied mansions.

Am I mistaken in that there are numerous sex scandals presently surrounding several high ranking british pols? (I am aware this is not exclusive to british MPs and higher ranking figures; it is to be found, and forgotten, wherever there is power and shush money sufficient to sweep it away). As such, they are pre-empting an attack on their own slimy backsides.

It is, simply, a tactic toward a larger goal. How dare anyone utter a charge against a legislator with anything involving sexual deviance, when they are this moment hell bent on forcing a show of hands for anyone who views what they tout as being 'dirty'. It is a subliminal message that they are clean, and the proles are dirty. It is a psy op with many tentacles. As many have pointed out: it isn't about 'porn'. It is about control. Never mind that nearly all hollywood style films typically glorify killing and contain sexual themes. These projects wouldn't have gotten the go ahead on budgeting unless they were, in fact, based on violence, intermingled with sex.

"We only want to HELP you."

This move was expected by those who have vision. It is simply another noose around the neck of the internet. Your name, on a list, waiting for adolph santorum and a drone to peep in your window looking for anything that isn't proper missionary position-cowering-in-the-shadows garden variety guiltsex. 4chan recently caught one of 'em, a bloody deviate, doing it in a kitchen. He ought to have been at his keyboard or toilet and then 4chan wouldn't have said a word. Now if 4chan is in on the act, just imagine to what lengths a santorum drone will reach to in order to bust the perv?

In the deal, they get more internet control, plus permadata, which is what they are after. One day the right hitler will emerge and all these preparations will finally make sense.

The psychological perks of shaming the masses has intangible benefits, side effects which should manifest silently, inexorably. Who is going to publicly stand up and say 'I object' when the laws are being spun as being for the benefit of the children? It's as transparent as sir bono being concerned about losing out on royalties, while he cites the chinese model for internet policing as the solution. In his own words, bono stated 'we can do it. we have the technological capability to regulate the internet'. And he endorses the 'chinese model'. By couching the atrocity as a 'challenge to humanity', a collective goal for the 'greater good' , he follows in obama's footsteps, a stellar liar and manipulator in his own right. cameron's simply playing catch up. He knows he has to frack the ley lines and frack them by force, and not with permission. Not with recompense. Rather, he will sell the devastation like its some sort of benefit to the environment, and to mankind. With all that methane loosed, all that gas, it should give those with low self esteem all the data they need for the agw component of terrorism. He is doing the work of his masters, and the masters are of the sos.

Don't like human nudity? Don't watch it. Stand up, if you can, and walk away. Maybe there's a dark corner you can go, where they haven't honed in on you and your shamed visage. But there isn't. The technology is inconceivably sophisticated. You all have been had.

Originally posted by Xterrain
Pornography negatively impacts any society. It's unnatural to see other women without their consent to you personally. I agree with this and I hope it becomes a global decision. We don't need it. It does no good. Too many people take advantage of immature, adolescent girls, and those girls get into drugs and that path is a short one and anyone who's using the images is contributing to their habits, way of life, and in some cases, their eventual death.


Flame on internet porn geeks...

edit on 23-7-2013 by Xterrain because: (no reason given)

As one of the "internet porn geeks" (which, I'm assuming is the name you're giving to anyone who dares disagree with Your Eminence), you are completely ignoring everything us IPGs (too early to acronym?) believe in. In your post, which I have quoted above, you tell us how porn is leading young women through Drug Alley, down Hooker Lane and into Cold Grave Cemetery. But I have one question...

Isn't it the responsibility of the parents to ensure their children are well equipped and well prepared for their futures?

Not once in your post did you even mention the parental responsibilities which are not only important, but essential to the wellbeing of a child. And, as we have said many times, why should our privileges be rescinded because parents are not doing their duties to their children? If, God forbid, I father a child, my internet security would put MI5's to shame! Because as a responsible and caring parent, I know it's my duty to keep the dark side of the 'net away from lil'JackofBlades. MY duty. Not the government's. Not my neighbours. Not someone in Dorset's. But mine.

This entire move is another way of pushing aside the true issue and bringing down a fist on the nation.

reply to post by TheWhiteKnight


Excellent post! The worrying thing about this move is, as I said previously, it sets a worrying precedent. They block something people will rally behind first, and then slowly they start to stick other things in. One day we wake up and our entire internet is on an "opt-in" basis. Which, obviously, means they know exactly our interests, our regular sites, the topics we follow, and how we spend our free time.

NO THANK YOU!!

Originally posted by alysha.angel


As a parent of teenage girls , i strongly approve of this and believe its needed ..

Iv heard of young men and women being currupted and sexually twisted due to porn and its not really a need ,

i hope someday the rest of the world does the same thing . its degrading to the actors and its not much better then prostiution

www.bbc.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)

Yep, I wish that this was done here in the U.S. Porn tore apart my family TWICE. First my parents, then my own marriage. Porn addiction is very real and damaging. I want it GONE. I'm ALL for blocking it. It is degrading to women, and IMO does not do anything positive for society.

Originally posted by alysha.angel
im sorry but its too assesble to everyone. and kids lie about their ages all of the time.i agree with the prime minister

iv spoken to young men about this subject and to find out that what their expecting is not what their going to get in the bedroom because a lot of women have different views on whats right and wrong in the bedroom .. id like to pat the guy on the back for this ..

A lot of people who are pro porn, have no idea what it's like to deal with porn addiction. They have NO idea the damage and despair it can cause for the addicted person and their families. It's unreal.

Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by ThreeBears

 

Three Pedo Bears

Relax

Nothing good seems to ever go on when you involve Nigeria, doesn't really mean much to the rest of the world, all this stuff your talking about is underground scum, go to LA where the Porn 99% of the rest of us look at is produced there are a lot of very happy, well off, interesting girls...

What your doing is comparing a person who likes to go out a couple times a month for an expensive dinner to a 850 lb mental patient with Prader Willi Syndrome

Mental disorders and crimes stem from ALL things the world doesn't need to cater to the psychos.

nope Sorry I Work with Exited women from the porn -prostitution industry, so I Know better. Sell it to the ones who buy the myths,

I dont. I have face to face met them, have seen their P.T.S.D., the diseases, and yes, the DEATHS,

And Those are the ones in good ole USA. I've seen the Drugs as a Result of the Rapes, fisting, Fistulas, choking, abortions and disease, the beatings, I'VE SEEN IT.

sell the blankety blank LIES about good johns and punters and Consent elsewhere. I KNOW BETTER.

I've talked and listened to the Mothers who have Buried their daughters Dumped IN TRASH CANS

After horrific rapes by Johns, high class ones, girls no older than TWELVE.

tell it to the dumbed down, to the apathetic, to the ones who don't Care about the PROSTITUTED SLAVE CLASS that ARE TORTURED DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

I like them, IF we had OUR WAY, the MEN who have destroyed then WOULD BE DEAD

Killed in the same manner they destroyed these Children and women.

There is REASON there is HATE

Of the men and the industry,

THE EXITED.

The Liars who Protect this #

Can go f themselves.

reply to post by alysha.angel

Iv heard of young men and women being currupted and sexually twisted due to porn and its not really a need ,

How's life back in the 1950's?

This kind of reminds me of something from that movie "V".

Originally posted by shell69
I don't get it??? If everyone who is opposed to this is so upset because they don't want anyone to KNOW they are watching it, or if men don't want their wives to know they are watching it...then it would cause me to draw the conclusion there is something really WRONG with it...right?

If there is something really wrong with it, then I would think that it's best for the entire population to definitely do all that is humanly possible to protect ourselves and our children from it...right? No one should be subjected to porn in their face, if they don't want it there, simply because they typed something in the search field that caused something totally OPPOSITE of what they are looking for to pop up!!

If you want it, then OPT for it, without shame.... if there is nothing wrong with it, right?

They hide it because they know it's wrong, and it's sick and degrading on women. If it was OK then they would not hide it. I am very very experienced with how that all goes.

reply to post by JackofBlades


#4 Thank you. Personally there's enough 'filth' in my head to keep me satisfied. I truly do not care. Most of the material in porn is pretty low, in aesthetic terms, and I reject it based on it's lack of appeal to my own dirty mind. People forget that the brain is the true sex organ. I only take in what I consider to be in good taste. My mind. My decision. My cup is more than full, thank God.

I see the real reasons for this, and it isn't good. Technofascism. Because they can.

Originally posted by xavi1000
Hahahahaha UK , Cameron is

So possession of "extreme pornography" including simulated rape is to become a criminal offence. That mean that anyone owning copies of movies Strange Days, Clockwork Orange, Straw Dogs ,The Accused and many more will end up in jail . Brits are done ! Great firewall of China is coming .

Movies which have a rating such as Clockwork Orange will not be banned.

Human trafficking is by and large linked to the 'Sex Industry' surely we all want to see an end to this.

There is far more porn available today than ever before, those who want it should imo Pay to View.

Originally posted by xavi1000
What is this crap ? It's impossible to ban porn. You need to shut down entire network/internet and after that revolution will come.

LOL Not in the U.S. You're talking about people who willingly let a stranger in the airport touch their bodies so they can board a plane. We're talking about people who will protest in free speech zones like good little boys and girls. Taking away porn will not spark a revolt. Taking guns might.

Originally posted by ThreeBears

Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by ThreeBears

 

Three Pedo Bears

Relax

Nothing good seems to ever go on when you involve Nigeria, doesn't really mean much to the rest of the world, all this stuff your talking about is underground scum, go to LA where the Porn 99% of the rest of us look at is produced there are a lot of very happy, well off, interesting girls...

What your doing is comparing a person who likes to go out a couple times a month for an expensive dinner to a 850 lb mental patient with Prader Willi Syndrome

Mental disorders and crimes stem from ALL things the world doesn't need to cater to the psychos.

nope Sorry I Work with Exited women from the porn -prostitution industry, so I Know better. Sell it to the ones who buy the myths,

I dont. I have face to face met them, have seen their P.T.S.D., the diseases, and yes, the DEATHS,

And Those are the ones in good ole USA. I've seen the Drugs as a Result of the Rapes, fisting, Fistulas, choking, abortions and disease, the beatings, I'VE SEEN IT.

sell the blankety blank LIES about good johns and punters and Consent elsewhere. I KNOW BETTER.

I've talked and listened to the Mothers who have Buried their daughters Dumped IN TRASH CANS

After horrific rapes by Johns, high class ones, girls no older than TWELVE.

tell it to the dumbed down, to the apathetic, to the ones who don't Care about the PROSTITUTED SLAVE CLASS that ARE TORTURED DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

I like them, IF we had OUR WAY, the MEN who have destroyed then WOULD BE DEAD

Killed in the same manner they destroyed these Children and women.

There is REASON there is HATE

Of the men and the industry,

THE EXITED.

The Liars who Protect this #

Can go f themselves.

there are so many different aspects to this and whats this person said i have no doubt about.. thats another aspect i forgot to talk about in my opening OP . the porn industry is no better then the mob and in some respects its worse ...

mob bosses and members as far as i know dont murder children .. all sides of this needs to be reviewed and made illegal on a world wide scale .. not just banned on the internet ..

Originally posted by Aisling

Originally posted by alysha.angel
im sorry but its too assesble to everyone. and kids lie about their ages all of the time.i agree with the prime minister

iv spoken to young men about this subject and to find out that what their expecting is not what their going to get in the bedroom because a lot of women have different views on whats right and wrong in the bedroom .. id like to pat the guy on the back for this ..

A lot of people who are pro porn, have no idea what it's like to deal with porn addiction. They have NO idea the damage and despair it can cause for the addicted person and their families. It's unreal.

Why should your god damn problems be the rest of our problem too? Get over yourself and stop trying to impose your "beliefs" and "values" on everyone else. Perhaps if you put more effort into blocking porn WITHOUT help from the Government then you wouldn't be in this mess to begin with huh? I can already guess that your argument will be "yeah well that software is too easy to circumvent"... and then your argument will devolve into nonsensical babbling about why the government should be able to block all porn and we should have no choice in the matter. Well guess what, even the government blocking systems aren't perfect and are easy to circumvent if you know how. It's like trying to block pirated material from the internet... simply impossible. And even more impossible with porn actually.

You can get a virus having sex the "old fashioned way" but I guess you were unlucky if you got a computer virus from online porn! Hope it's not catching!

reply to post by torsion




My guy friends that porn search online are always complaining about porn viruses, I just assumed they were talking about from visiting porn site via online...

What are we as citizens now classed to too stupid to make our own minds up as to what we want to see online?
My message to our 'Dear Leader' Mr Ca-MORON is this:

How about actually trying to fix society by letting them choose, if they want you to run our lives, how about instead of a blanket ban on online bongo is give the people a heads up and saying something like " Hey people, how about you learn to password protect your children online otherwise we will have to start censoring parts of it".

You do know Mr CaMORON that by starting to censor the net your going to be classed as a dictator because once it starts what else are you going to start censoring? Free speech? peoples right to the truth? online conspiracy sites?

Online grumble isn't really an issue for most, how about really trying to fix society by starting with food that's riddled with brain destroying chemicals, fix the air by forcing the large energy companies to release free energy devices they have hidden, stopping wars that teach our children that human life isn't worth anything, stop crime by teaching people that money isn't the end all and be all?
But NO you want to ban online porn, so Mr Ca-MORON are you going to come around here and teach my children about the birds and the bees? I doubt it.
Banning online porn indeed, your MPs are searching online porn most of the time anyways, I mean what else are you getting paid for, it certainly isn't working for the peoples benefit, so you have to be spending the time your not counting your money by filling it with something else?

Originally posted by alysha.angel

Originally posted by ThreeBears

Originally posted by penninja
reply to post by ThreeBears

 

Three Pedo Bears

Relax

Nothing good seems to ever go on when you involve Nigeria, doesn't really mean much to the rest of the world, all this stuff your talking about is underground scum, go to LA where the Porn 99% of the rest of us look at is produced there are a lot of very happy, well off, interesting girls...

What your doing is comparing a person who likes to go out a couple times a month for an expensive dinner to a 850 lb mental patient with Prader Willi Syndrome

Mental disorders and crimes stem from ALL things the world doesn't need to cater to the psychos.

nope Sorry I Work with Exited women from the porn -prostitution industry, so I Know better. Sell it to the ones who buy the myths,

I dont. I have face to face met them, have seen their P.T.S.D., the diseases, and yes, the DEATHS,

And Those are the ones in good ole USA. I've seen the Drugs as a Result of the Rapes, fisting, Fistulas, choking, abortions and disease, the beatings, I'VE SEEN IT.

sell the blankety blank LIES about good johns and punters and Consent elsewhere. I KNOW BETTER.

I've talked and listened to the Mothers who have Buried their daughters Dumped IN TRASH CANS

After horrific rapes by Johns, high class ones, girls no older than TWELVE.

tell it to the dumbed down, to the apathetic, to the ones who don't Care about the PROSTITUTED SLAVE CLASS that ARE TORTURED DAY IN AND DAY OUT.

I like them, IF we had OUR WAY, the MEN who have destroyed then WOULD BE DEAD

Killed in the same manner they destroyed these Children and women.

There is REASON there is HATE

Of the men and the industry,

THE EXITED.

The Liars who Protect this #

Can go f themselves.

there are so many different aspects to this and whats this person said i have no doubt about.. thats another aspect i forgot to talk about in my opening OP . the porn industry is no better then the mob and in some respects its worse ...

mob bosses and members as far as i know dont murder children .. all sides of this needs to be reviewed and made illegal on a world wide scale .. not just banned on the internet ..

It's not Science nor reality to base opinions upon a victim focus. I'd challenge anyone to find a consumption of human behavior that doesn't have victims and if you work with the victims and see only that pov everything is evil by that standard.

Take food, Slavery, the majority of human slavery involved the production of food over the course of human history including Americas.

To this day there is Slave labor to some degree in the industry, Obesity, Diabetes, Bulimia, Anorexia, the cost of food is exorbitant, people starve in the richest countries in the world because of price gouging, Political debate is endless in regards to what we should survive...

In reality, the number of people who die or suffer shorter and poor quality of life due to food poverty has to be 1000x the sex industry. A study published just this week states that the effects of prenatal exposure to crack is better than a childhood of poverty and not eating right.

So why is this an issue? Moral agenda

There is nothing else, I have infinite more concern for Food than what sex workers do, "I work with victims" is just your agenda... I could go work with alcoholics, drug addicts, the obese... Anorexics, Internet addicts

And then tomorrow I'd get up a Luddite with no life... because everything is bad for you if your a moron

Regulate the damn industry, punish the criminals...

You can't stop sex, partying, eating or any other human desire... Only the dumbest most obsessed people ever try and it's always within those social systems that Fail and are remembered by history only when people do try.

What Monsanto is doing is vastly more important... Maybe ban food? That will solve what scum does? Where isn't there corruption? Some people get dependent on anything... the rest of us don't need to be treated like infants because of that.

Personal Moral Agenda... Doesn't have a place in free society.