Online pornography to be blocked by default, PM to announce

It's just a little more Socialism; nothing to see here (literally), move along.....

On a more serious note, once they do manage to block specific subject matter (such as pornography), what is to stop them from selectively choosing any other subjects that they do not feel should be available for the people's consumption?

Conservatism? Religion? Alternative News?

Originally posted by Lysergic
Heaven forbid we run our own lives, thank gawd big brother is there to stick is nose in again!


This oughta change the world.

Somewhere there's a disgruntled lad with sexual frustration a-rising.


Wank access, denied.

Did you even read the article?

It is not banned, all you have to do is opt-in.

It is no different than choosing the playboy channel with you cable package.

If you want it, you can have it.

Less porn, more reading.

Originally posted by Lysergic
Heaven forbid we run our own lives, thank gawd big brother is there to stick is nose in again!


This oughta change the world.

Somewhere there's a disgruntled lad with sexual frustration a-rising.


Wank access, denied.

Did you even read the article?

It is not banned, all you have to do is opt-in.

It is no different than choosing the playboy channel with you cable package.

If you want it, you can have it.

Less porn, more reading.

Little kids don't belong on the internet, it's to unpredictable.

I would equate the internet to a mall. Some of the shops sell stuff for kids, some might sell stuff for adults. Knowing that, would you drop your 3 year old off at a mall and let them wander around complete strangers?

I sure as hell wouldn't.

Look, I know kids get into stuff -- so set a lock screen on your phone. The technology exists to keep kids away from material not suited for them. It is my opinion that those in favor of this are just plain lazy.

Governments maintain social order and provide services that individuals could not afford alone. They don't make moral shot calls and dictate personal lives.

Originally posted by LionOfGOD

Originally posted by Unity_99
I personally believe that porn is not only demeaning and dehumanizing to women and humanity, but that it is a huge crime against humanity, and makes victims world wide. I want it illegal in video and in magazine form. All those smutty magazines burnt in a huge heap. I want every strip joint in the world shut down. As well.

And it would be about time.

Disgusting.

maybe he/she was being sarcastic. I cant imagine anyone being that crazy in real life. I can understand some people do not get arroused or enjoy it, but hating it is a bit strange. oh well! you hear something new each day that passes.

Imagine the government banning free speech.

Well, not banning, you can still say whatever you want to say. . . . . you just have to "opt out" or let the government know, that you want to have free speech.

Simple really.

"Please sir, may I have some more?"

You may be a father of teenage girls, but think of the teen boys!

I think this is stupid and I thank the universe this isn't something that'll be taken on here in Australia!

Originally posted by beezzer
Imagine the government banning free speech.

Well, not banning, you can still say whatever you want to say. . . . . you just have to "opt out" or let the government know, that you want to have free speech.

Simple really.

"Please sir, may I have some more?"

I can see it now...they'll have "free speech zones" set up. Or when you call someone, a prompt will come on beforehand saying, "If you would like to exercise your 1st amendment right, press one -- otherwise you have acknowledged and opted out of that constitutional amendment. If you would like this conversation recorded and stored on the cloud server, press 2...."

Edit to add: They might even make life easier if you waive your rights. Passports would be issued faster, registration at the DMV would be quicker...all by asking people to waive away their rights. It can be justified to the people by making government cheaper -- as side stepping constitutional rights saves time/money.

They might even do it in such a contractual way that it'll be a pain in the butt to ensure you are being covered.

why does everything in the world just have to be a conspiracy..?
The internet will not be locked down so stop making the tin foil hat and listen to reason.

To no one in particular:
People just love to b*t*h about everything now days.

I have posted on the subject of pornography before, but I doubt that more than a handful of people have read my posts, so let me restate here that I use pornography. I like it. I am in favor of it. I think online is where it should be. The price is right and the atmosphere, my own home, is safe.

I am against censorship of any sort. I think any lunatic subject ought to be able to be presented in whatever way the lunatic presenting it desires, as long as it involves consenting ADULTS only.

I am completely fed up with legislators who attempt to put an entire society in a strait jacket to protect it from a miniscule number of offenders.

Prime Minister David Cameron tells us that:

. . . access to online pornography was "corroding childhood".

I would like to hear his definition of "corrode" in this context and I would like to hear why internet pornography is more corrosive to children than violence in all media.

Please digest the following:

Mr. Cameron also called for some "horrific" internet search terms to be "blacklisted", meaning they would automatically bring up no results on websites such as Google or Bing.

He told the BBC he expected a "row" with service providers who, he said in his speech, were "not doing enough to take responsibility" despite having a "moral duty" to do so.

He also warned he could have to "force action" by changing the law and that, if there were "technical obstacles", firms should use their "greatest brains" to overcome them.

I'm not going to pick this apart. I simply implore someone in the Conservative Party in the UK to sit the Prime Minister down for a "little chat" in order to introduce him to the world outside Belgravia, the pluralistic world where people are devious in all sorts of clever ways and actually circumvent the law to get what they want.

This whole porn panic wouldn't really be an attempt to create jobs in the police and security services would it?

In addition to attempting to prevent the "corrosion" of childhood, new legislation is being introduced to criminalize the depiction of rape and the possession of material depicting rape.

"Well I can tell you today we are changing that. We are . . . making it a criminal offence to possess internet pornography that depicts rape."

The move has been welcomed by women's groups and academics who had campaigned to have "rape porn" banned.

Holly Dustin, director of the End Violence Against Women Coalition, said the group was "delighted".

I guess that's it for Alexander Pope's The Rape of the Lock. Or maybe depiction of rape is permitted if it is not in what people consider "pornography". Danger: Loopholes Ahead!!

I have a question for Mr. Cameron. Mr. Cameron will you rescind this legislation if rape statistics in the UK either remain the same or rise in the wake of passage of it?

In any event, if this legislation goes through it might provide a definitive answer to the question of whether porn itself, its presence, is relevant to crime at all.

Porn is after all a huge industry, the vast majority of the consumers of which are law abiding.

Originally posted by ProphetZoroaster
why does everything in the world just have to be a conspiracy..?
The internet will not be locked down so stop making the tin foil hat and listen to reason.

To no one in particular:
People just love to b*t*h about everything now days.

It is about freedom and parenting. Some parents have failed their kids and the whole country will have to pay for it.
Again I say why should I have to opt in when I have no kids in my home? the parents should have to opt out.
Also where does this all end? who decides what is porno and what is art?
Slippery slope down hill for freedom of expression and freedom of speech If this goes through.

I get so tired of the "porn degrades women" and "porn objectifies women" crap.

You know what they really mean when they say porn degrades women? It means that porn takes the power they hold over men out of their hands and (literally) puts it back into the hands of men. There's nothing worse than a man who doesn't care about getting laid, I guess.

Yeah. I said it. You know it's true. This is the real reason a lot of women hate porn. They find it threatening. Especially married women. How is she going to compete if she thinks her husband's fetishes and kinks are disgusting (as they often do) and he turns to porn for satisfaction? Should have thought of that before you married him. Don't go complaining that he's a typical man who has a sex drive.

Well now, that just won't do, will it? So we need to find an excuse. Oh! I've got it! It degrades women! Yes!

And let's go even farther and say that porn warps people's minds and causes them to have fantasies! Oh lord! What'll we do?

Do these people really believe that people wouldn't have fantasies without porn? Do they seriously think the average person is that brainless?

And women aren't the only ones who have something to lose from porn. If you're sitting around watching porn, you're not out burning gas, buying stuff and you might not even have as much ambition. They're not really getting a cut of whatever profit is left in the porn industry. People mostly pirate it anyway now so it's going to be hard for the government to get more money by taxing it more. You're getting free sex and they aren't getting jack. And you know how big government advocates feel about that.

Originally posted by ProphetZoroaster
why does everything in the world just have to be a conspiracy..?
The internet will not be locked down so stop making the tin foil hat and listen to reason.

To no one in particular:
People just love to b*t*h about everything now days.

Are you seriously on a conspiracy forum telling people not to have conspiracy theories?

just think on the guy wanting to do this to protect the kid's left his infant in the pub!!!

First they take this, then they take our right to look at websites like this!

So here's my take on this.......I don't think porn should be regulated in this way, like anything else, booze, drugs, food, violence.....it can become a vice / addiction and distort normal functioning in some people, that's just a fact.

But make no mistake my porn loving friends, this can be a filthy business that absolutely does prey on young women from broken homes, often times with drug and alcohol problems, get real, do you think any pretty girl that has a strong family, opportunities and self respect is going to make porn? These girls are often times tricked and intimidated into doing much more extreme "acts" then they bargained for and end up with broken souls and spirits. Look into it, and you may see another side to this.

As for making this an issue about women being hurt and jealous about porn, yup, that's true...it's a fine line and every couple needs to talk about what they need, want and expect....but keep these things secret and basically "cheat"......and I assure you it will end badly...

Please note how Cameron uses the words "porn" and "child abuse" and "pedophilia" in one and the same sentence.

There is only one problem: There is no link *whatsoever* between what one could consider 'normal' porn and child abuse/pedophilia. I could go 'porn hunting' on the internet for hours and would not come across one single site which features child abuse or pedophilia.

The irony here is also that those criminals (because pedophilia/child abuse *is* criminal) are not using the mainstream internet to get their sick fix.( Reason being, obviously, that pedophilia is illegal and such sites are not just listed or accessible in the same way as 'normal' porn sites. (What he, obviously, implies or wants people to believe). Any such site which would be known widely would have been long raided and shut down by authorities.

The idea of Mr Cameron that 'blocking porn' in a general sense would stop pedophilia/child abuse is entirely absurd and so is his mentioning of pedophilia and other criminal actions in the same sentence as porn, essentially putting all those things at the same level.

Sex isn't pornographic. Shock and awe, Kent State, torture, and other killing videos are pornographic imo.

reply to post by MountainLaurel


Maybe people are confusing the average prostitute for the adult entertainment business? I think its day and night different. First of all the first is illegal and the second is not. Second there is a world of difference in how much more money the professional performers make. Third porno stars are treated as celebrities by some/most.

I am not saying its an ideal business for everyone. I personally dont like sexual exhibitionism and secondly I don't like being a celebrity followed around. But I don't view it as dirty, sex is a natural act and I view the human body as an art form.

Only the religious fanatics make sex a bigger deal than it is or those with psychological trauma. It has been said that lots of people(mostly women) have been raped and never reported it or seeked help. Bisexual and homosexual rape is not uncommon either.

Honestly, my hands couldn't be happier with this news