Dulce Base - upcoming book by Greg Valdez

Originally posted by jordan77
The whole "the government is responsible for cattle mutilation" theory never made any sense to me. Why would the government go through all these shenanigans to steal cattle in secret, and then just drop them back where they found them? It just seems stupid. Wouldn't it be infinitely easier to just buy a ranch/land and raise your own cattle or pay a rancher for access to their cattle? Just drive up, say you need cow 5, load it in a truck and drive off with it. The rancher doesn't have to know what you're doing with them, and when they cash the fat check, they probably don't care. You literally could make up any kinda story for why you need 'em. Why steal 'em and give back a mutilated corpse?

If they're doing all these cockamamie experiments, why not just treat them like lab monkeys. Nobody goes around stealing monkeys from the zoo for lab experimentation, why do it with cattle?

I think this is a very good and valid question. The whole idea as you said seems stupid, people would dig more when you enter their property than if the gov used their own cattle. Similar to why it is hard for me to buy 'the whole UFO phenomena is military coverup or stories for money' - because of the questions I asked on page 1.

For mutilation, doing such accurate cuts is totally within the capability of the military or the government, let's not forget the military technology is maybe 20 years ahead even without alien technology. However, there was at least one case where some equipment or something was found not too far from the mutilation place, so it really doesn't have to be aliens doing it.

However, GValdez still has no access to any top secret information and he is not having the answer to some other events and cases, in fact, even if Castello and Schneider stories were made-up, does GValdez really know all that may be down there in Dulce or he also doesn't know all about it?

I don't know, I need to see this from someone who has been there and will finally tell the truth, so his work is appreciated but somehow the undeniable proof of what Dulce is about, will come from someone who has been there and sort of knows the underground place well enough.

Originally posted by The GUT
torsion: Don't want to step on your toes and absolutely appreciate your heads up about this, so I was wondering if you want to continue this thread as a book review, or is the review topic open for another thread?

Hey, Gut!

Haven't got the book yet. I'm wanting a hardcopy (old school reader, me) and waiting/hoping for it to become available on Amazon -

Sounds like a good read from what you're saying.

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Ordered mine last Thursday afternoon, received it today (thanks GregV)...
dulcebasebook

Looking forward to getting off work to dive in....

Edit to add to above post. My hard copy (large paperback actually) of the Dulce Base book included a sticker of the above road sign ....cool

Book was also signed by Greg Valdez. I feel special...

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Thats theproblem with a ebook but being uk i just didnt want to wait for the international delivery.

Great book though read it in 2 days as was so ingrossed in it

Originally posted by Toxicsurf


Edit to add to above post. My hard copy (large paperback actually) of the Dulce Base book included a sticker of the above road sign ....cool

Book was also signed by Greg Valdez. I feel special...

Shizzle...shouldn't have ordered the ebook!! Easier to quote at length that way, plus, to tell the truth, I couldn't wait!!...but not signed danggit!

Might have to get a hardcopy, too...

Greg: I'm sure your dad is smiling down.

Originally posted by GVALDEZ
That's part of it. They did the same thing to Bennewitz when they gave him the $75,000 dollar grant to conduct research. In both cases they get access to both my dad's and Paul's files and then the gain they most important thing which is control. My dad did not immediately sign the non-disclosure agreement when he started working with NIDS. The waited until he was in the middle of a lot of strange things before they made him sign it. It is a big key to this mystery. NIDS did the same thing to MUFON, throw money at the "problem", see what the have and pay them so they can control what information is going in and more importantly control what is going out. If you know the NIDS story, a ton of information went in, but nothing relevant or important ever came out. I'll let you think about that for a while and you should be able to figure out why this happened.

SR: On those connections – you were a member of the scientific advisory board for the National Institute of Discovery Science during the investigation of the so-called ‘Skinwalker Ranch’. The recent book by George Knapp and Colm Kelleher on this investigation featured a great deal of anecdotal evidence for anomalous craft, strange beings and poltergeist-like phenomenon. From your point of view, do you feel this investigation was a success, and were there any aspects that were of particular interest to you?

JV: I am still a member of that Board, now restructured under Bigelow Aerospace, so I feel bound by the non-disclosure agreement I signed.

www.dailygrail.com...

And since it is mentioned so many times, 'what truly is going on'? Let me guess, there is no answer to that, or it's the same inconclusive things that we usually hear. That's why it was enough for me to get this debunked, I do not need the details around what it really is.

In fact, I am doubtful this is the whole story, there could be more going on, unless someone who really worked there can tell. That's still not first hand information but I guess no one who worked at Dulce wants to speak yet.

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ImpactoR,
There is an answer to what really is going on. Unfortunately it is very likely to be very boring and uneventful to you, because that has been a common response to that question when it has been asked before. I highly recommend that you DO NOT buy the book because of this fact. One purpose of the book is to set the record straight and if you have already determined what happened you will not like what is in the book. The details are actually very important, and the details have been missed by many people. You can go to other forums on this website which claim they have photos of the entrance to the base and in reality, they have photos of the BHP coal mine located in Farmington, New Mexico. That's a perfect example of people that have not paid attention to details and why there is so much confusion about the subject. There was a question earlier if the book by Branton was accurate and the answer is no. This is also based on the failure to look at details.

You will have a very long wait, if you decide to wait for some former employee to come forward and speak about the base. That is extremely unlikely to happen, because a good majority of the stories that many people want to be verified are false to begin with. There are other reasons this is very unlikely to happen.

If you decide to look into this further, I will give you one bit of advice, take caution with anyone that claims an underground alien/government firefight happened in 1979 because a lot of stories and theories are based on this story. This story was started by the air force and it is false. At least you will know one very important detail which will tell you if the person is credible or not. Good luck with your investigation. If you find something and you have questions, let me know and I will try to help you. It is a very confusing subject and very few people can see through the false stories. When I get everything running on the website, you can view the evidence for free to get a good idea of what happened for free. I apologize that it has taken so long to get it up and running, but I'm working on it as we speak. I wish you well with your research, it's very complex and complicated.

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Thank you, I hope my dad is smiling down. He spent many years looking into this mystery

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That's because they don't want to talk about worse experiments than the Japanese or Nazis EVER did.Which is why cattle are stolen and people are as well.
Frankenstine would probably call THEM monsters but that is what "Private Black organizations" are apparently like,they don't finance any other kind of science with black budget money. And don't get sick because they won't help. Too many eyes in the wrong place.

I do believe there was a disinfo campaign going on which was extrememly successful and steered people in the wrong direction from what was actually happening, most likely classified aircraft. And i also believe there is/was probably an underground base, though not populated by aliens!!

But i was wondering if the cattle mutilations were to do with bio warfare or bio technology? Seems a plausible reason (along with classified aircraft) why the government would not want people
knowing what was really happening in the area.

In Gabe's interview with 'Open Minds' he kept repeating that the information regarding what as happening with the cattle was 'sensitive' and that people should stay away from these cattle if they ever came across them. He seemed sincere enough but im just curious as to why the cattle mutilations area was so sensitive?

Perhaps because the public would be in uproar if they found out what was happening? (More so than finding out we had been visited from outer space) because the government had allowed these atrocities to happen? Even if they would claim it was in the publics interest/safety/defense/health issues????

I also wonder how NIDS fits into this area, as i know they purchased the 'Skinwalker Ranch' where cattle mutilations had also taken place along with some other weird and wacky stuff. I feel like there is one piece of the puzzle i am missing, though i have probably come across it already and just not managed to tie it together.

Originally posted by iloveit
I also wonder how NIDS fits into this area, as i know they purchased the 'Skinwalker Ranch' where cattle mutilations had also taken place along with some other weird and wacky stuff. I feel like there is one piece of the puzzle i am missing, though i have probably come across it already and just not managed to tie it together.

Get Greg's book to see how NIDS, the Aviary, the Air Force and the CIA all tie together...

HEY, GVALDEZ, I'm wanting to do a more in-depth review of your book, but, given how tied your book is with the website "evidence locker," and seeing as how that aspect isn't up and running yet, I'm hesitant to do so.

Any idea when the pics and documents might be up? Thanks.

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I apologize for the delays, this has been very frustrating for me also. I am supposed to meet the web guys this weekend to get that part of the site up and running. I will post updates on facebook and twitter as I add the information. I will add the key documents first. I have been converting everything over to digital in the meantime to try to make things as smooth as possible.

Originally posted by GVALDEZ
I apologize for the delays, this has been very frustrating for me also. I am supposed to meet the web guys this weekend to get that part of the site up and running. I will post updates on facebook and twitter as I add the information. I will add the key documents first. I have been converting everything over to digital in the meantime to try to make things as smooth as possible.

I know you're busy and I wanna give a big thumbs up to this important book, just need to be able to do so with the above in mind. Hope all is going well for you, brother! Watch out for the spooks...and their legal team haha!

I bet Paul's long-suffering family appreciate your remarks about his intelligence and character as well. What a blessing to them.

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That is a fair answer, thank you for the advice. I know this sounds like a childish monster busters game but for me there is a good reason to seek what is going on underground and I do not mean Dulce only, I mean everywhere. Relatives of mine many years ago when our woods (Europe) were less hunted and more wild with more wild animals, they encountered a humanoid one winter who was staring at them and threw a stone at the relatives, they ran away as fast as they could. They are not people who are into such stories, mysteries, conspiracies or anything of that kind and would rather mock at, if someone told them such a crazy story, which makes it serious.

Partially I was putting your honesty under a test, so far I got no indications of anything you say being disinformation. Afterall, crazy alien stories are more likely to be disinfo than this. I have an idea what is in your book and you are right, it is the outlandish stories that made me look there. If it is nothing more than a military base, from the place of my biggest interest, Dulce can become a closed case.

There are other places like Wright-Patterson AF Base, Dugway, where not only human-animal experiments may be made and thus the mutilations, but something out of the human capabilities and technology may be kept.

I am aware of all sorts of stories on the internet like human encountering beings underground - what sounds like some sci fi. However, I have seen in documentaries underground places that seem huge and unless people know all that exists underground, I think it is not that outlandish to think something may be down there, that no one knows about and even some encounters may be real.

But anyway, back to the book, I am fine with what you tell, afterall the Truth matters more even if it is more boring compared to the fancy stories of reptilians. But since things like the giants at Lovelock caves were found

The underground, who knows what may be down there... Least of all technology more than that of human invention?

Originally posted by ValentineWiggin
Yayyyy!!! One one of my favorite topics! It's about time!

OK got to ask where do all these fantastic avatars come from lol. Ya I have been around that area and on the Colorado side of the border area. Everyone around there has a story to tell about strange ufo's or even creatures they have seen.

There is mountain in the Colorado Valley that the locals also say there is a base. It is believed to be Nordic. I have witnessed strange lights while traveling through that area.

We lived on the backside of the norad mountain range in Colorado and ufo's were common occurrences there. Not even news worthy lol. What was strange to me was how they seemed to love to be around the lightning storms there. The dry mountain air would often be filled with dry lightning storms and there was always flurry of ufo activity during the storms.

I figured they were drawing power from it or something. Seemed the only explanation.

I had heard there was a permanent ET presence of on the new super secret base they built to replace norad there but could never find anything out for sure. Wife did some brief work there and said they had armed escort everywhere they went, which being military myself with top secret clearance that was way above any security I had seen. Well accept once in Germany at a crash site.

I hope soon we find out for sure, does anyone remember the movie that was about the cattle mutilations that ended up theorizing it was secret govt program studying chemical and biological weapons on the cattle. Can never remember the name of that movie, it was a plausible theory and good movie.

Can't wait for book, did you know for sure the name.

The Bot

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Endangered Species is the movie

ValentineWiggin
Yayyyy!!! One one of my favorite topics! It's about time!

Sorry long night, is there link to pics,

Thanks

The Bot