The Language of Vampyr

For anyone who is interested, this interview of Andryl is out there:

Andryl Interview

His responses felt very familiar. At two points, additional non-verbal information
became available - very dense information. Now, it was nothing I didn't
already know, nothing that I hadn't done myself at one point.

I know that sounds mysterious.

I'm presently processing what I'm going to do with new information that has
only become available to me since yesterday.

Why do you keep addressing us like we're a unit?
Even some family is never a unit.
There is no One World Order.
Only a Mutual Assured Destruction.
Can you imagine?

Some Creator (must be Satan)
Gave us the knowledge of good and evil.

Makes sense

a reply to: Direne

This site your associates have created seems like a cognitohazard for a certain type of mind. A certain type of mind that unfortunately, I happen to posses. There are cryptic languages that translate to fragments and paragraphs of various books and articles, mixed with original content in a sort of dadaistic fashion. They seem to hint at ideas, concepts and information, that form a coherent and unitary whole, but they never quite get there. You read an article and you feel like you've almost got it, with just a little bit more effort and information you'll finally figure it out. It will *click*, it will all make sense. You'll understand what is true and false, what they're really trying to say. And so you go to the next article, add it to the puzzle box, looking for the piece that will finally fit it all together. Thus you continue the cycle.

These sort of puzzles are hazardous for a mind driven primarily by a need to comprehend and complete. Spending hours trying to piece together this puzzle will likely not result in financial, social, or any other kind of gain. So it takes a certain type of mind to fall into this trap.

Which brings me to the purpose of this message. Can you Direne tell me anything about the site that will help me piece it together? To know enough about it to be able to place it aside? I'm asking this as a kindness. My need is to know, not to gloat or mislead others with the pretense of knowledge. There's people enough that do that, and they're not the kinds of people that would fall into this trap.

a reply to: zero_one

It must be in preparation for this

a reply to: boozo

At it's very simplest, a Gnostic might say that humans are mind-controlled slaves, imprisoned in a false world, in a way their light fed upon, and being cut-off from the gnosis and wholeness of the Pleroma, from which they truly spring.

Pretty depressing view that, but I fully and completely understand why someone would view things that way.

And whether that's the correct interpretation or not, down on the ground here, what with disinfo, brainwashing by culture and language, and eventually cybernetic obedience implants, it certainly appears to have some practical merit as a point of view.

Both Gnosticism (the better types) and the so-called LeftHand path are all about individuality above all other things.

And NOTHING would be more sacred to a Gnostic than when a bit of individuality wakes fully up, other than, of course, the total and complete destruction of the ancient control system itself. I won't go into the full details on that.. it's too incendiary for public talk.

Gnosticism is an atman (self) based system, a dualistic system.

At the opposite pole you have Buddhism an anatman (no self) system.

To me, Buddhism is a wonderful system of purification and can be used as a way to escape the tyranny of language and culture. But IMHO at least, it leaves you strangely neutered and disempowered, except for those few who transcend it.

I had to develop my own custom semiotic system so to speak, to reconcile classical physics and quantum mechanics (to use a metaphor) to reconcile the errors in atman and anatman perceived duality.

Now some esoteric groups take trainees..

Others are 'working groups', where it's assumed that you don't need excessive training.

But in either case, it's assumed that the 'student' has to make it to the door ('to enter into) on their own,
or nobody will pay them any mind. (now that's an interesting phrase... 'pay them any mind').

I hope that was helpful.

a reply to: lostgirl

I'm very fascinated by the morals of a pure and fervent Gnostic.

Their actions could easily be seen as 'evil'.

Their actions could easily be seen as 'wishing to kill god'.

While Gnostics value individuation and 'free will' more than anything,

would they beam signals into human bodies with the flimsiest of excuses,

or none at all,

in order to 'attack the ancient adversary'

as they would view it?

That's the $64,000 question.

Kev

originally posted by: KellyPrettyBear
For anyone who is interested, this interview of Andryl is out there:

Andryl Interview

His responses felt very familiar. At two points, additional non-verbal information
became available - very dense information. Now, it was nothing I didn't
already know, nothing that I hadn't done myself at one point.

I know that sounds mysterious.

I'm presently processing what I'm going to do with new information that has
only become available to me since yesterday.

I find it somewhat strange (shall we say) that someone devoted to understanding the power and energy that words can have would choose a word as heavily weighted, not to mention scientifically archaic, to quantify humanity as "race."

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Yup.

I always keep an eye out for 'baggage' and 'tells'.

I really don't care who FL is or isn't.

I'm interested in the mindset that informs the mind.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

Three times ditto.

It is certainly not a word that I would consider associated with any progressive movement of intelligencing as it would indicate that they are not correcting for selective bias.

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Even much of science is rife with bias.

I keep harping on Gnosticism; Gnosticism was a beautiful cultural emergence, but it carries dangerous baggage within it.

It would be easy to view humanity as a whole as a 'failed race'.

Folks who are into Rabbinical lore, Kabbalah, and Gnosticism can get their heads in a nasty place,
just like some horrid Old Testament 'Christians do' that talk about mud people and the issue from Cain;
that sort of horrid thing.

By this I mean, they might view some sort of first Adam superman as the 'truly sentient and pure one' and the second Adam as the one created by the evil interloper Jehovah.

Sometimes it's called the 'Cosmic Adam' or Adam Kadmon.

Or one might simply be obsessed with the beings part of the Pleroma, and fancy themselves as one of them.

And.. any 'race' (cultural group) which promoted one of the 'enemy belief systems' would be 'bad';
like apparently we see evidenced by tells.

Kev

a reply to: KilgoreTrout

Perhaps the reason is because the interview is not legit? Has you asked Ayndryl whether she (and not he) held that interview? I suppose you have already noticed the video is audio edited, and that the voice is generated by a text-to-speech software.

Ayndryl's email appears on the site, so you can just drop a line to her and ask her.

a reply to: Direne

I wish that someone could decode the additional information that is part of that video.

I cannot say whether it's genuine or information warfare.

My 'out of band perceptions' due to autism and what ever, received a most ominous
additional message payload.

Now, I'm well versed in concepts such as divine cannibalism and what not, but I hadn't
expected that payload.

I guess one thing that makes me wonder, is if that video was fraudulent, and part of
information warfare, why there is only the one 'attack' back in 2019; usually such
things are part of a coordinated campaign, not a solo one-off.

There are many things i just don't know.

Kev

a reply to: Direne

I am happy to take your word for it being unreliable information and misrepresentative. Many thanks for clarifying that for us and I apologise for any unnecessary upset I caused by not checking the authenticity of the material.

All the best.

a reply to: zero_one

a cognitohazard for a certain type of mind

Obviously, we cannot filter visitors according to the type of mind they have. This, I'm sure, you will understand. But you mention you, unfortunately, has that type of mind. Which type of mind is that? Why would you feel more comfortable reading the myriad theories posted on ATS than, say, on FL? What's the difference?

These sort of puzzles are hazardous for a mind driven primarily by a need to comprehend and complete

Information is never hazardous, zero_one. Not even misinformation, nor disinformation, provided the reader exert critical thinking. However, let me know about which specific post in FL you need additional information, and I will contact the author to see if she/he can provide more information to you.

a reply to: KellyPrettyBear

I don't think the video is warfare. Many sites attack others, many people insult and laugh at others. That's part of the human dynamics. Anonimity comes with that burden. As far as I know, the owner of that channel wanted to interview Ayndryl. She never gives interviews, however she asked the owner of the channel to send his questions in writing, and Ayndryl would reply in writing, which she did.

The guy had to use a TTS to reproduce the voice. However, the contents was changed slightly, but we forgive the guy because, in the end, we respect all people, and wish him the best.

a reply to: Direne

However, the contents was changed slightly

That's a mysterious statement.

When I was wondering whether FL promotes 'divine cannibalism' I was wishing FL well.

I suppose that sounds strange to some.

As I intimated, I'm no stranger to that sort of thing.

By the by, Direne, you are welcome to come visit anytime you like during normal daylight hours,
and I'd give you a cold/warm/hot beverage of your choice.

I spent all day with Jacques Vallee, I am certain that we'd have a much more enjoyable conversaion
than that.

Kev

a reply to: Direne

What is FL's purpose?

a reply to: Direne

I say that the field of unlimited and unexpressed potentiality needs to be parsed, to make anything out of it.
It takes a living being to do that, so as you say, 'the field' has no choice but to grow living beings for any of
that potential to be actualized.

What do you think of the concept of darwinian-evolved 'reality clusters'? I mean, when people see cryptids,
they tend to see 'man-creatures' more than anything'. Now, the 'easy answer' is that people anthropomorphize,
and have limited imaginations, so they see what they know or extrapolate. But some of the cryptids wear clothing from another time, or of styles that never existed here, sometimes with the most incredible level of detail.. far more than would be required for a simple prop. One can wonder if 'humans' in 'potentiality space' live near to their many similar neighbors.

Of course, in a manner of speaking, all 'living beings' are illusory stage props, but the same jockeying for position
in the layer just outside 'unexpressed potential space' might well congregate in clumps, even subtly influencing each other.

And perhaps it might go so far, that one variant on 'human' might be so repugnant to it's adjacent neighbors, that they might go visit them, in protest of lowering 'property values!'.

As for two moons, wouldn't the more prosaic answer be two aspects of one deity, or like in the Bible with higher textual criticism, there were two authors/accounts (or more) that mingled together?

a reply to: Direne

Proton decay and quantum tunneling quality control issues from the perspective of a 'watcher';

;-)