Why being Gay IS a Natural thing

reply to post by BlastedCaddy

In all honesty it sounds like you are trying to put yourself above folks that choose a heterosexual lifestyle.

I think he's just bringing all his facts to the table as a plea for acceptance.

Originally posted by BlastedCaddy

Originally posted by Djayed
I am going to say this again...

Homosexuality has a great deal to play wth reproduction....it controls it which in return assist with resources not being used.....

Homosexuality has been documented all throughout history...logically if you think about our population as it is now....you would not be sitting there behind your computer commenting on this post...our civilization would have ended due to the lack of resources available to support us.....there is a small population of homosexulss just for this cause... to control population...when populations rise...the amount of homosexuals rise to counter the population and their use of resources..

This is not logical. War, disease and famine regulate the population quite well. If not better then our homosexual brothers and sisters. As I said earlier. My dad is gay and I am here.

In all honesty it sounds like you are trying to put yourself above folks that choose a heterosexual lifestyle. IE, if it wasn't for us everyone would be dead. That is not the case.

I do not hate your lifestyle. In all honesty I could care less what one chooses. Your argument is grandiose and if it was not for an act of heterosexuality you would not be sitting behind your computer typing away.

edit on 29-6-2013 by BlastedCaddy because: extra DIV

Do gay people have gay kids?

Homosexuality is in indeed a natural thing created by mother nature itself as a means of population control.

There really is only one reason we have two sexes in the first place procreation now man thinks himself better than mother nature yet again so it is no longer natural population control.

Here's what i know. I didn't choose to be a straight person. I wasn't influenced growing up to be attracted to the opposite sex.

So, and i really WANT to know this... how can homosexuals/bisexuals etc be accused of choosing or being influenced to be attracted to a certain sex? What is it that makes you believe that?

I know what the bible says... and trust me, it isn't a lot. And what it DOES say is extremely vague and probably not very well translated/understood. So, as a religious man myself, i don't want to hear "because the bible says it's wrong" because, to put it bluntly, it doesn't really say it that clearly does it?

So tell me.. straight people. Did you choose to be attracted to the opposite sex? If the answer is "no" then i presume those who are attracted to the same sex also never made that choice.

IF you can reply to me and give me a good idea that orientation is chosen (including yours) i will listen. You may change my mind!!

Originally posted by tamusan
reply to post by BlastedCaddy

 

In all honesty it sounds like you are trying to put yourself above folks that choose a heterosexual lifestyle.

I think he's just bringing all his facts to the table as a plea for acceptance.

Well Said...and I do not know about you but If I ask any of my Heterosexual guy friends if they COULD actually have homosexual sex the answers is usually the same "No, it just wouldn't get me going/up or whatever you want to call it".

Whilst I'm not homophobic by any stretch, I have always considered homosexuality to be some slight 'miswiring' of the brain.

From what I can see, all living creatures are programmed to procreate by simple virtue of continuation of the species, and homosexual desire craves the physical act but not the physiological possibility of this core 'programme'.

I don't find homsexuality distasteful at all, and I am full supportive of gay folk and their long road to full societal and legal acceptance, but - for me at least - their sexuality is undeniably 'unnatural' in the broadest terms simply as it is unable to fulfil an instinctive trait of all living species.

I don't think this is bad however - every animal (human included) body is home to thousands of 'uncommon' mutations of one kind or another. It just so happens that some of those related to sexual attraction can also be 'mutated' (in the scientific sense).

Originally posted by tamusan
reply to post by theRhenn

 

You're going to argue TEXT BOOK with New York Times?

My other hobby, for over 10 years, was taking college and university courses. I remember learning many "facts" from my college textbooks, which are now obsolete.

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I can agree but the new york times is a better source?

Im sorry I dont believe it evil or anything like that but I dont agree its Natural. We have Man and Woman not Man and Man or Woman and Woman so Sorry no its Not Natural.

Originally posted by theRhenn

Originally posted by tamusan
reply to post by theRhenn

 

You're going to argue TEXT BOOK with New York Times?

My other hobby, for over 10 years, was taking college and university courses. I remember learning many "facts" from my college textbooks, which are now obsolete.

edit on 29-6-2013 by tamusan because: (no reason given)

I can agree but the new york times is a better source?

It is not like I provided a link to breitbart.com or something it was NYTimes....all I got from you was the word TEXTBOOK...not which textbook or the year it was printed.....also I provided another link to New Scientist...

Does it really mater if its natural or not? Why are people so concerned about the way other people want to live their life or even have the audacity to tell them the way to live their life. The only reason that this just like racism is still an issue is because we as a people make it an issue. If you just didn't care which you shouldn't because if your not gay it doesn't effect you there would be no issue. Why do people care so much and why is it an issue? Its almost the behavior of a hypochondriac, there's nothing wrong but were going to come up with an issue to fight over. They're are so many other pressing matters that the human race needs to deal with and here we are still debating sexuality issues. We are conscious entities that can choose for our selves the way we wan't to live our lives and as long as its not negatively effecting some one else's life then why does any one care. People need to start looking inward and find ways to better them selves instead of running their mouths about how other people are not living their lives right. So even if its extremely unnatural, who the heck cares? Or better yet WHY do people care?

reply to post by KingIcarus


Interesting... would you suggest someone born with 12 fingers unnatural? Just because it's a "mutation"? I understand your concept... and i think it has reason. But if it's a "miswiring" in the brain then it is indeed, natural. Just not "normal" in terms of the majority?

reply to post by Rocker2013

The examples you give also all have a victim. These

Just as a note, the link in the OP said that homosexual sex between varying species of dolphin is often very violent. So does any of that make it a better case for humans?

Why did you have to make this thread, we know we get it, now please leave us alone we just want to live normal lives.

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
reply to post by Rocker2013

 

The examples you give also all have a victim. These

Just as a note, the link in the OP said that homosexual sex between varying species of dolphin is often very violent. So does any of that make it a better case for humans?

Um some people like it violent. But like i said why does any of this matter to people. Let people live the way they want to live and live your life the way you wan't to live it.

Originally posted by MrConspiracy
reply to post by KingIcarus

 

Interesting... would you suggest someone born with 12 fingers unnatural? Just because it's a "mutation"? I understand your concept... and i think it has reason. But if it's a "miswiring" in the brain then it is indeed, natural. Just not "normal" in terms of the majority?

Yes, I do think 12 fingers is unnatural, as the humane genome usually permits fours/five fingers (depending on how you classify the thumb). Any more or less is unnatural simply as it is not what the mean natural form nature prescribes.

My point is, such an obvious difference is a truly minute corruption in the genetic code, but one that has obvious outcomes - not wrong, not bad, but different.

I suggest homosexuality is similar - a barely perceptible difference in the 'code'. It just happens this little difference 'turns off' the natural instinct for procreation. Again, this isn't a bad thing or anything - just a small quirk.

I really don't think it's a big deal at all, tbh - It's just one of those things. I'd be much more interested in the genetics behind asexuality, if I'm honest.

reply to post by Djayed


I'm a sex addict. I would if I "could". I can only be aroused in a heterosexual situation.

reply to post by theRhenn


I'd have to check the references. From there I'd decide what I think.

Men and women and their interrelationship are sacred. The marriage unit provided by them do represent an realistic ldeal situation whereby the continuation of our species can continue in the most potent and prolific manner. To refute this is fallacy.

An ideal reproductive mechanism has been evolved or developed and that is penile/vaginal intercourse.

I would say causality is what makes homosexuality "natural" but not normal because all sexual engagements and relational statuses are inherently not the ideals as stated above.

Originally posted by neo96
Do gay people have gay kids?

Homosexuality is in indeed a natural thing created by mother nature itself as a means of population control.

There really is only one reason we have two sexes in the first place procreation now man thinks himself better than mother nature yet again so it is no longer natural population control.

edit on 29-6-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

I have zero problem with that. It's when the Elites decide to put porn in front of grade school children to promote it because as Romney said years ago, "There is no age appropriate sex ed for kindergartners", and the new Common Core National Sexuality Standards go all the way down to kindergarten, and I've seen the pictures in books from kindergarten to age 10. It's just thrown in as another thing on the menu, but my objection is to porn pics being thrown at children for indoctrination.
Other than that, let them have their way with each other. I guess the Pro Choice rationale only works for abortion.

But yogis believe that yoga helps to control even natural impulses

Beverly Price, a registered dietitian and registered yoga teacher based in Michigan, lists multiple ways yoga can help in the treatment of eating disorders. In a regular yoga practice, she notes, participants often find themselves in postures that are difficult, uncomfortable or awkward. "Learning to stay within the poses and work through these postures can help an individual, who feels an urge to binge or purge, delay acting on this urge," she says. Practicing yoga can also increase and maintain discipline and help you accept uncomfortable emotions and situations during class, thus aiding your efforts to control impulsive behaviour that commonly arises out of uncomfortable emotions or situations in daily life.

www.ehow.co.uk...

Experienced yogis frequently raise the kundalini and forego sex altogether, and the purpose is enlightenment. Oh and as a side note, there are even yogis who have mostly forgone food as well, as they live only on prana. I cannot say I am ready for such a drastic impulse control, but it can be done.

Anyone can take this information as they will.

reply to post by balanc3


I think the bond between consenting people is the sacred part, regardless of orientation.

I removed procreation from my life 20 years ago, but at the same time I increased my sexual activity.