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Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
reply to post by Char-Lee
Witness testimony and photographic evidence trumps speculation in my opinion.
From the trial:
Martin was beating Zimmerman (ABC News)
Martin was beating Zimmerman (Fox News)
Evidential photos:
Zimmerman's Injuries
Originally posted by ProfessorChaos
I'm pulling up stakes and moving on from this thread, some folks just prefer to believe fairy tales over reality.
When Zimmerman is found innocent and the riots start wherever they may, don't bother posting about how awful it is to see people destroying their own neighborhoods and stealing from small businesses that support the area that the rioters live in, after all, we should try to see things from their perspective, right?
Peace.
If he were really trying to get away and had not turned around to confront AZ he could have made it easily as he possessed the advantages of youth and speed.
It seems so difficult to imagine someone having their life threatened (murder) without a weapon other then hands, unless one is a small person or a female or child.
Originally posted by beezzer
[link removed]
Above is the link.
T&C forbids me from posting offensive material so I would urge anyone to read the link provided. Too many swears for me to edit out.
It's 2013 for heavens sake! And we have to deal with this garbage! Personally, I think it's mostly bull poop. Threats, talk, is just that.
Talk.
As a firm believer in the 1st Amendment, I think people should be free o speak their mind.
But with the recent events with Paula Deen, I see a dichotomy here. I guess it's just socially acceptable to hate on whitey.
Post, don't post, reply, don't reply. Just wanted to share a sad slice of society.
Why does it seem like for every step forward, we take 5 steps back?
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**ALL MEMBERS** The recent surge in Hatred, Racism, and Sheer Stupidity STOPS NOWedit on Sat Jun 29 2013 by DontTreadOnMe because: The END of Hate Speech, subtle or otherwise, on ATS
Black people living in urban areas have fear of just living to the next day, fear of not having any money to buy food, fear for their children safety and future, fear of unjust persecution (and they have had plenty).
Originally posted by seabag
reply to post by Char-Lee
It seems so difficult to imagine someone having their life threatened (murder) without a weapon other then hands, unless one is a small person or a female or child.
You don't know until you've been there I guess.
I bet you'd think differently if some kid was dribbling your head on the sidewalk like a basket ball. That's what Zimmerman experienced before he pulled his gun.
Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by thePharaoh
Let me get this straight.
You think that if someone is following you, or you think someone is following you, you got the right to punch them in the face, and pound their head against the sidewalk?
All evidence points to the reality that TM was not the victim, but the perpetrator, killed by a man acting in self defense.
You are the one with serious lack of morality.
Bring on the riots, there will be more stand your ground laws passed.
People are tired of this game.
Oh, and color has nothing to do with it. If the races were switched, I would be making the same points. Racists are the ones who always make it about racism.
Originally posted by Char-Lee
He must have been a lot weaker of a man then he seemed I guess if the people who saw all these things in the dark are right. Sad he was not even on watch that night but on a personal errand. All very sad.
Originally posted by totallackey
reply to post by ArcAngel
Black people living in urban areas have fear of just living to the next day, fear of not having any money to buy food, fear for their children safety and future, fear of unjust persecution (and they have had plenty).
...fear of shooting other dead over a pair of Jordans...
Originally posted by raifordko
reply to post by thePharaoh
You're so racist it's not even funny. That "youth" was 6'3" and weighed 185 pounds...he also thought he was "hood". An eye witness for the prosecutor said TM was the one on top punching Zimmerman ground and pound style.edit on 30-6-2013 by raifordko because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by thePharaoh
the smugness, arrogance and subconcious hatred has clouded your judgment
he shot an unarmed youngster, after following him...because he was a stranger
let me get this straight...theres millions americans... if zimmerman doesnt know you...he has the right to stalk you, whilst armed...and approach you for a confrontation...well good luck
who needs the police, judge and jury... well zimmerman didnt
if he walks... it would be sickening.. the matrix will see a reaction...life in prison i say 20 yrs or so
BTW- how did a young teenager beat up a big turd like GZ... the defence did what it was paid to do... but dude, you drank it like milk....
you cant claim self defence after telling the dispatcher that your gonna chase and confront him .. [SNIP]
cant believe they went for self defence....they should of fabricated a prior incident defence ..edit on 30-6-2013 by thePharaoh because: (no reason given)edit on 6/30/2013 by AshleyD because: Removed personal insult towards another member.
How can you make that comment? If you have paid ANY attention to the trial you would know that not to be the case. Stop listening or reading bias media BS. You want to comment and not sound like a fool, actually watch the trial, you wont get a media spin. Zimmerman told the dispatcher he was going to follow him, dispatch said no, Zim then proceeded to go back towards his truck. Thats when he was attack by Trayvon. Zimmerman was no aggressor, multiple witnesses have placed Trayvon on top of Zimmerman beating on him. Need I remind you this case shouldnt even be in court. It was only picked up by the state after it was pressured by a false follow of Trayvon supporters. I hate to break it to you but Zimmerman will as he should.edit on 1-7-2013 by RockApe because: Spelling