2 Apaches Kill a Platoon Of Taliban

reply to post by crazyewok



....But it's their country too...They don't want to leave...They want to be at peace and they do not have the power, on their own, to achieve the peace that they want.

Originally posted by Nuke2013
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....But it's their country too...They don't want to leave...They want to be at peace and they do not have the power, on their own, to achieve the peace that they want.

We do not have the power either.


All it is doing is wasting lives and resources for nothing and makeing a already crappy place even more crappy.

You cant change these reasons History and current events have shown that. So its best just to leave them well alone.

reply to post by stirling


Again, you apparently don't know what you're looking at. I saw Taliban fighters continuing to fire at the SF team and continuing to man crew served weapons, and continuing to maneuver for position..

Didn't look like they were surrendering to me.

Originally posted by stirling
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Excuse me Wrabbit Sir>
Yo forgot to mention us Cccanadians....you know yer northern bros in arms?

Well, actually, I didn't figure my list was entirely complimentary in context ...so would ya believe I meant to leave Canada out to be nice and considerate? (innocent smile)

Actually, you're entirely right and aside from having set a couple shooting records and such, we did accidentally bomb a Canadian position. It was accurate...just not the moment to be quite so, of course. Indeed. Canada has been an all weather friend, always.

Originally posted by bekod
war is hell, better there than here , a running boomer is an undisciplined boomer, a standing boomer is a well disciplined boomer and makes for an easy target. less ammo needed to do the same kill

"Better there than here" isn't really a valid argument when those people don't even have the capabilities to do whats being done to them in the video, to us.

Originally posted by MCJustJ

Originally posted by bekod
war is hell, better there than here , a running boomer is an undisciplined boomer, a standing boomer is a well disciplined boomer and makes for an easy target. less ammo needed to do the same kill

"Better there than here" isn't really a valid argument when those people don't even have the capabilities to do whats being done to them in the video, to us.

Exactly. The USA and its allies are just establishing a reputation for starting conflicts with enemies who they've already sold all their obsolete stock to, via their proxies.

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So in your opinion, it is not right to help those that want to be free from oppression, we should leave them be no matter what ? To me that is pretty selfish. It is natural for the stronger to help the weekest. We are not just there to shoot and kill, we are building schools, we are helping doctors, teachers, communities to build a stronger people, a free poeple and a people that will start to stand up for themselves againts a dictator regime in the name of having free will.

I say that our lives, soldiers live are worth the price when you start looking at the big picture.

Originally posted by Nuke2013
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So in your opinion, it is not right to help those that want to be free from oppression, we should leave them be no matter what ? To me that is pretty selfish. It is natural for the stronger to help the weekest. We are not just there to shoot and kill, we are building schools, we are helping doctors, teachers, communities to build a stronger people, a free poeple and a people that will start to stand up for themselves againts a dictator regime in the name of having free will.

And when you leave it will all collapse and those doctors and teacher will be lined up and shot by the taliban. Is it right NO! Can it be prevented NO.

Originally posted by Nuke2013
I say that our lives, soldiers live are worth the price when you start looking at the big picture.

No because at the end of the day nothing has changed. You cant tame the untamable.


Plus this is how the British empire expanded after 1783. We keep going in places tame the natives and civilise them. Eventualy we ened up staying as if we had left they would have revert back too normal. 100 years later we owned a empire that spans most the earth A Empire that got so big it imploded.

Originally posted by stirling

Originally posted by xavi1000
2 Apaches kill a platoon of Taliban fighters setting up to ambush a U.S. special forces patrol.


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I thought you meant two REAL APACHES not a couple of heavily armed helicopters...jeeeze

Wow man , you are joking or you really think that Apache Indian are so powerful ?

reply to post by Reaper2137

War fare has not changed since its inception. The only thing that has is technology and media access. All those stats mean nothing. In wars long history, compared to other wars that is literately a drop in the bucket.

Can you name a conflict in the last 100 years that's been longer than 30 years? We've meddling, consistently within the ME since the 80's. No, i'm sorry, but it's not a drop in the bucket. Neither is the deaths of millions of people over that time, civilian at that.

The same war crimes, atrocity's and killing have been going on since one ape lifted up a stick and beat another to death with it.

So that makes it OK that we keep doing it? I'm sorry, but that's a logical fallacy.

feel bad for people who think like you do. Its wrong and the "evidence" of history and time, state otherwise

That's unfortunate, I'm sorry that you feel the need to justify the murder and destruction of various culture's around the world for the profit of a very few greedy men and women.

As for the proper care of Vets, well you tell me why a LARGE percentage of homeless are vets? Or why there is story after story after story of the VA being under funded and mismanaged.

Tell me why 22 veterans commit suicide EVERYDAY? If that doesn't show you how undervalued soldiers are once they come home from killing Uncle Sam's political "challenges" around the world, I don't know what will.

~Tenth

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i felt kinda dumb... i thought you meant two members of the apache tribe were gonna start scalping taliban. boy do i feel dumb

Originally posted by rockoperawriter
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i felt kinda dumb... i thought you meant two members of the apache tribe were gonna start scalping taliban. boy do i feel dumb

Originally posted by tothetenthpower
Is that so? When was the last draft? Who told these people they NEEDED to pick up arms and go oppress others? Most likely a misplaced sense of duty and patriotism.

~Tenth

If those in the volentary military today didn't CHOOSE to be the sword, than the draft would be used to FORCE non-violent citizens into these roles. They would be less talented and driven to succeed and more deaths would result as a whole.

The "machine" will exist in some form or another, the US constitution ensures us of that fact. I am glad we currently have enough volenteers in the US armed forces to allow me to not get drafted.

If tomorrow all active US military personel retired.... the draft you are mentioning not occuring since Vietnam would occur the very next day.

God Bless,

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And if that happend then unless there is a direct threat to the homeland the masses should stand there ground and say NO! No more!

If everyone did that then there would not be enough prison to hold them. It would gind the politicians plans to a halt and force them to change it.


But alas for every person that refuses and stands there ground 10 propaganda fed brainwashed fools will mindless turn up to the fraft office for the slaughter.

Originally posted by crazyewok
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And if that happend then unless there is a direct threat to the homeland the masses should stand there ground and say NO! No more!

If everyone did that then there would not be enough prison to hold them. It would gind the politicians plans to a halt and force them to change it.


But alas for every person that refuses and stands there ground 10 propaganda fed brainwashed fools will mindless turn up to the fraft office for the slaughter.

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All nations need a "sword" until all swords have been turned into plowshears.

If we overthrow the government what would we replace it with? One that does not have any military presence? One that never goes to war?

Or will the more likely outcome be overtly ambicious human beings step in to fill the void and then they create a military to fight their wars?

It is human nature that must change, not governemental structures. That can only occur when all swords are turned into plowshears and mankind does not learn of war anymore.... that requires a new Kingdom over all the Earth from outside human nature.

God Bless,

Originally posted by projectvxn

Originally posted by billdadobbie
if someone invaded my country just saying :puz

ne mans freedom fighter is called a terrorist by some ???

I expect the Taliban to fight. But it seems like some people would rather we just let the Taliban kill our guys just because it's only morally wrong to kill when you're the US Army.

There is a way to keep our guys alive... And it's not by killing anybody.. Just saying...

Originally posted by projectvxn

Oh waaa.

Its us or them. Sometimes I wish people who make these comments would spend a day with these units. See what they see.

Its war. This platoon sized element of Taliban fighters were maneuvering on our guys. Apaches rightly took em out.

Good for them

Who is the invaders here though?
Why are we still over there?

Originally posted by peashooter
Other than their actions how do we know they are Taliban fighters?

Looks similar to drone footage to me. Lol, "war on terrorism", I think the civilians being bombed to blitz knows who the real terrorists are.

If you label a group "taliban" and then target them, because they're taliban.

Isn't that genocide.

Originally posted by ElohimJD


All nations need a "sword" until all swords have been turned into plowshears.

Yes we need a militray. I just take exception when this tool of the goverment is missused and people are sent off too die not for defence but purely for benifit of the elites.

Originally posted by ElohimJD
If we overthrow the government what would we replace it with? One that does not have any military presence? One that never goes to war?

Im not saying unthrow the goverment or get rid of the military complety. Just throw a spanner in the works of the next useless evil crusade so they have to give up .

Originally posted by buster2010
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Did I support our mission in Iraq? No. I found it to be wasteful and misguided. We didn't even get oil contracts at the end of the day. We left empty handed.

So you think we should have gotten something for invading Iraq? Oh sure it's ok to invade countries that haven't attacked America as long as we get something out of it. That's just sick and twisted dude.

It just further cements the lie that we are in the Middle East to spread "Freedom and Democracy"
We do not even have it here in this country. Just the Illusion of it via bought and paid for puppets.

Even if they got the oil contracts, all the profits and proceeds would go straight to the thugs at the top and the American People would get stuck with the Tax Paying Bill to fight there.