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The thing is for many it's not temporary. I'm on disability and it's not temporary for me. Food stamps are means of survival for me. I'm calling BS on someone making $60k a year and collection food stamps. I've been found legally disabled by a federal judge and do you know how many hoops I have to jump through to get food stamps. Just this week DSS wanted my banking info. I had to go to the bank and have them fill out papers stating whats in my account. By federal law you can not have more then $6000 in assets that includes your car. Your car can not be worth more then $6k. My cousin makes $125 a week and he don't even qualify.
Originally posted by kdyam
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
I'm a little confused about what all of the fuss is about. The program has $80 billion a year in funding and they want to cut is by $2 billion a year, so that's a decrease of less than 2%. Am I missing something? A 2% cut in something that is meant as a temporary aid is causing us to be up in arms? God forbid that the people who are affected by this are the ones who are on SNAP and don't need to be. I know people who make $60k a year who are still on foodstamps I hope they get their funding cut, 2 kids no mortgage, state funded health care and they bring home $60k a year after taxes.... they shouldn't be getting government assistance. Food stamps have been plundered by the illegals with fake id's and the people who fell on hard times and then got back on their feet again and dont need them. When will it end?
Originally posted by Kgnow
I hope the food stamp cut-backs hinder the.... "I don't have to worry about the consequences of sleeping around, the tax payers will be my baby's daddy," mentality that is crippling the soul of our society. Too many women are happily sleeping around without a second thought regarding the integrity of the man.... will he be a good father.... a good provider? Nope, it doesn't matter, just hike up the taxes on the working-class to cover it all.
For how many honest folk you may know on food stamps that are justified for the help they receive,... I know many, many more who are professional baby factories. Just keep popping out the babies because they know it'll get them more "gov'ment cheese", more social program awards, vouchers, and tax breaks.
I want to see the professional baby factories and the "who cares about a father, I got gov'ment cheese" women extremely hindered by this OP.
I'm all for compassion and helping others,.... but the "baby-daddy" mentality is a stench I can not get used to. Not on the dime of those who work their butts off trying to make an honest living.
McDonald's is always hiring.
edit on 19-6-2013 by Kgnow because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThreeBears
oh I Totally agree with you with all these women having babies Just to get on food stamps,
And ya Know, by golly you are right, those evil women sleeping around and Immaculate Conception and ya Know how THAT works,
IMPREGNATING themselves,
Not like it takes a MAN or anything, nah,
I mean IF IT DID
I'm sure YOU would be the First to demand All those MEN SLEEPING AROUND
Be Mandatory Sterilized, Vasectomies.
After all, WE the Taxpayer shouldn't be stuck with paying for, what you term it? Oh, yea,
The Gvernment Cheese Baby Making Factories,
Yep, that's right, all these women and their Baby making for Stale Gubermint Cheese!
And of course yes, McDonald's is always Hiring,
Funny, how many Mothers I have met WORKING at MCDONALDS, who are ON
FOOD STAMPS.
But I guess THEIR TAX DOLLARS don't Count. Just the dollars of self righteous bigots, misogynists and Snobs,
Well, again, I Tooootally agree with you, and well, we Should Cut those Baby making machines off,
Damn straight,
Birth Control, and Sterilizing all those MEN sleeping around Causing all the Tax payer BROTHAS to have to pay for their being
MALE SLUTS.
Let's start There! Then, even if those Evil women want Guberment Cheese, well, they may Sleep around but they won't be making any babies,
Sounds Fair, Yep.
By golly mate, it's a Wonderful idea!!!edit on 21-6-2013 by ThreeBears because: Typos
Originally posted by nightstalker78
reply to post by Starchildren
This may sound cruel..but I don't feel for you. This the life YOU chose for yourself,not some politician. This is what annoys me about some welfare recipients. Everyone else's fault.Not mine.Gimmie gimmie gimmie. I too have a daughter.(single father,who'd have thought?!?!) But I'm not sucking up gov'ment benefits. I hear ya on the full time work thing,it's especially hard here in Florida.But let that motivate you to get a career.
Originally posted by Lipton
I tried reading all the posts made that went back and forth on the subject, but by page three it was plain to see the two-faced nature of several forum members. Apparently it is very vogue to look a gift horse in the mouth.
I find it deeply disturbing and self-serving that many of you have the audacity to lambast the government on nearly every scandal, false flag and conspiracy, yet as soon as it's convenient you crawl right up on that cross and chastise those that have been calling for fiscal responsibility for the last decade.Hypocrisy doesn't even begin to label what your apparent mantra is.
What I am tired of is the obvious and blatant abuse that occurs with the EBT, WIC, SNAP, TANF and every other tit that the government gives people to suckle on. Should you be able to buy soda, gatorade, chips, fatty cakes or any of that other processed sh*t that is sold at so called grocery stores? No! And if you're too damn broke to buy your own food, then IMO you should suffer and have to eat things like vegetables, meat, cheese, bread and water. It is asinine to claim that it is so expensive to survive on the 'pittance' the government tosses you every month, but I manage to feed myself, my wife and daughter on $150 a month, so if you're getting $75 a month then you're eating a hell of a lot better than I am.
Times are tough and unless you want to see austerity that made Greece's problems look like a slow Tuesday then it's time for you to wake up. Quite frankly recipients should be cheering that they get something for free, rather than wallowing in self-pity and demanding more right up to the day that the feds are finally tapped out, throw their collectively worthless hands in the air and say, 'Go fend for yourselves.'
Seriously, you think the inner city eaters-and-breeders are mad that they're receiving a cut? Metro areas would be burning if their allotment wasn't there on pay day.
edit on 21-6-2013 by Lipton because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ThreeBears
Originally posted by nightstalker78
reply to post by Starchildren
This may sound cruel..but I don't feel for you. This the life YOU chose for yourself,not some politician. This is what annoys me about some welfare recipients. Everyone else's fault.Not mine.Gimmie gimmie gimmie. I too have a daughter.(single father,who'd have thought?!?!) But I'm not sucking up gov'ment benefits. I hear ya on the full time work thing,it's especially hard here in Florida.But let that motivate you to get a career.
let's not forget that Women make 73cents to the male dollar,
what should she do, Leave her child alone (she probably isn't a Mammas baby who will Give her free daycare, OR better yet, a live in Gal Pal to do the whole wife thing while Daddy can work two jobs or seek out his American Dream and Even if she Did have a Male Pal, she has a lot more to risk by the one Double Standards there, so, her options right there are already Limited)
But again, she should pursue a career, OK what about DAYCARE while she's in class? Oh she could take out Student Loans (grants don't even pay for the fn books much less tuition) and then well,
Sign her life away as a Lifetime Indebted Servant, screw it, SLAVE, probably in the same dead end low paying job she was in to start with...
Bottom line is Your situation is not HER situation even if you ARE a single parent. FACT, the highest percentage of Impoverished IN this nation IS
Single Mothers,
And NO they are Not all Baby maker machines for guberment cheese or dead beats or Lazy,
RAISING A CHILD IS WORK
Damnit
It's WORK
And the MAJORITY OF WORK
THAT WOMEN
GET THAT LOUD AND CLEAR
WOMEN DO
IS
UNPAID LABOR.
WOMEN should SUE generations of TAX PAYERS FOR ALL THE UNPAID LABOR
L.A.B.O.R. THAT THEY DO
NO VACATIONS, NO WORKMENS COMP, NO RETIREMENT FUNDS
And EVEN IF MARRIED WOMEN. WOMEN. DO 80 PERCENT OF ALL DOMESTIC UNPAID LABOR
WORK
WHILE THE MAN SITS ON HIS ASS
And YOU want to tell HER SHE made her choices???
I'm sick to Death of how WOMEN get TREATED as if their Raising children, CARRYING THEM NINE MONTHS, THEN SOME
ISN'T
WORK?????
SCREW THAT.
MAYBE WOMEN
Should tell the Bigots SEXISTS to go Straight to HELL
And GO ON STRIKE.
They BITCH is SHE wants Birth Control, they BITCH if she wants an Abortion, they BITCH if she says NO
And then they BITCH some more IF SHE HAS CHILDREN
And OMGOSH Doesn't make enough $$$$ to FEED THEM THEN
They BITCH That she WORKS outside the Home,
On and on and on...but oh a Man is a parent,
Well WOMEN HAVE BEEN PARENTS and SINGLE PARENTS TOING THE LINE FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS
And getting CRAP for it.
I'll stand for my Sisters, SHE'S A MOTHER and THEREFORE. SHE IS A WORKER
The most IMPORTANT WORK
A HUMAN COULD EVER DO
And she won't be PAID for Most of her LABOR
And we are going to BITCH about her having a Scrap of Guberment CHEESE???
edit on 21-6-2013 by ThreeBears because: Typos
Originally posted by sean
reply to post by Starchildren
Place where I live businesses are going under left and right. Empty buildings all over. List of what I saw go down...
Second hand shops, furniture stores, jewelry stores, movie theater, barber shop, hair cutting salon, fitness center, adult and family services (yes the place you get food stamps), churches closed down, restaurants, real estate office.
I mean there is probably a lot more, but these are actual places and facilities that I have used at one time or another here locally downtown. Prices are exceedingly grossly overpriced. This place is going to be a ghost town before to long and whatever is left is barely clinging on, but the government says everything is just fine. Of course it is to them because they make 6 figure incomes. Apparently they don't understand the domino effect no jobs = no income = no food = no medical. I guess when the floor and chairs falls out beneath them they may take notice that the low and middle class is what supports their butts.edit on 21-6-2013 by sean because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by nightstalker78
Originally posted by ThreeBears
Originally posted by nightstalker78
reply to post by Starchildren
This may sound cruel..but I don't feel for you. This the life YOU chose for yourself,not some politician. This is what annoys me about some welfare recipients. Everyone else's fault.Not mine.Gimmie gimmie gimmie. I too have a daughter.(single father,who'd have thought?!?!) But I'm not sucking up gov'ment benefits. I hear ya on the full time work thing,it's especially hard here in Florida.But let that motivate you to get a career.
let's not forget that Women make 73cents to the male dollar,
what should she do, Leave her child alone (she probably isn't a Mammas baby who will Give her free daycare, OR better yet, a live in Gal Pal to do the whole wife thing while Daddy can work two jobs or seek out his American Dream and Even if she Did have a Male Pal, she has a lot more to risk by the one Double Standards there, so, her options right there are already Limited)
But again, she should pursue a career, OK what about DAYCARE while she's in class? Oh she could take out Student Loans (grants don't even pay for the fn books much less tuition) and then well,
Sign her life away as a Lifetime Indebted Servant, screw it, SLAVE, probably in the same dead end low paying job she was in to start with...
Bottom line is Your situation is not HER situation even if you ARE a single parent. FACT, the highest percentage of Impoverished IN this nation IS
Single Mothers,
And NO they are Not all Baby maker machines for guberment cheese or dead beats or Lazy,
RAISING A CHILD IS WORK
Damnit
It's WORK
And the MAJORITY OF WORK
THAT WOMEN
GET THAT LOUD AND CLEAR
WOMEN DO
IS
UNPAID LABOR.
WOMEN should SUE generations of TAX PAYERS FOR ALL THE UNPAID LABOR
L.A.B.O.R. THAT THEY DO
NO VACATIONS, NO WORKMENS COMP, NO RETIREMENT FUNDS
And EVEN IF MARRIED WOMEN. WOMEN. DO 80 PERCENT OF ALL DOMESTIC UNPAID LABOR
WORK
WHILE THE MAN SITS ON HIS ASS
And YOU want to tell HER SHE made her choices???
I'm sick to Death of how WOMEN get TREATED as if their Raising children, CARRYING THEM NINE MONTHS, THEN SOME
ISN'T
WORK?????
SCREW THAT.
MAYBE WOMEN
Should tell the Bigots SEXISTS to go Straight to HELL
And GO ON STRIKE.
They BITCH is SHE wants Birth Control, they BITCH if she wants an Abortion, they BITCH if she says NO
And then they BITCH some more IF SHE HAS CHILDREN
And OMGOSH Doesn't make enough $$$$ to FEED THEM THEN
They BITCH That she WORKS outside the Home,
On and on and on...but oh a Man is a parent,
Well WOMEN HAVE BEEN PARENTS and SINGLE PARENTS TOING THE LINE FOR MILLIONS OF YEARS
And getting CRAP for it.
I'll stand for my Sisters, SHE'S A MOTHER and THEREFORE. SHE IS A WORKER
The most IMPORTANT WORK
A HUMAN COULD EVER DO
And she won't be PAID for Most of her LABOR
And we are going to BITCH about her having a Scrap of Guberment CHEESE???
edit on 21-6-2013 by ThreeBears because: Typos
Wow.you must be female?
That post is just..I don't even know what to say to it really.
I'll just say this to address your sill post.
Personal Resonsibility. Learn it.
Teach it to YOUR children. Which judging from your post you probably have ten by now.