The Cartoon That Will Destroy America And/Or Entertain Some Children

reply to post by Akragon


Doesn't suprise me... though I would rather see this as an adult cartoon on the late night cartoon network showings of Robot Chicken and such. It's rather ironic that they are targeting 6-11yr olds with this as when I was growing up we were targetted with Ren and Stimpy! Looking back and re-watching this show and all the hidden subliminal messages are just and people really wonder where they get there humor from??? Don't whizz on the electric fence~! Thanks for posting this Akragon SnF

I'm a crafter who specializes "Fantasy Dress up for children. I make dragons, dinosaurs, mermaids, tutus, fairies' wings etc., fairy princes costumes and custom play areas.

At Halloween, one of my popular costumes is "The Angry Princes" which is marketed for boys. They love it! They can act out on their feminine expression, usually making fun of the their sisters and moms. I think it's a healthy exploration of emotion and gender interaction.

reply to post by windword


if i had a dollar for every barbie i played dress up with while growing up in a family of female cousins, I would be living in Monte Carlo.

(on a related note, did anybody ever put on the girdle of femininity when playing D&D? Oh come on! I know I wasn't the only one.)

reply to post by NarcolepticBuddha


I often was. Hulking male warrior when playing D&D. I had a whole range of characters.

That's the joy of childhood....using your imagination. In my dreams, I often fought crime as a male superhero...but I'm all girl.

My son got Mario Party 9 for his birthday. His favorite character to be? The princess.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


No, no, I completely agree with your definition of mannerism, that is what I was talking about.

I'm a wiry guy with a quite feminine rear-end (yes unvoluntary hip movement here... ) and very androgynous looks, and before I grew facial hair, I got hit on by tons of alpha male type dudes (which was sometimes absolutely hilarious), and in fact I still get lorry drivers who honk me from behind and get dissapointed by the beard when they overtake... but all in all I don't think I have feminine mannerisms (my girlfriend, while jealous of the honking, has confirmed this).

The point I was trying to make in my first post was that more generally, "feminine" is in the eye of the beholder, be it mannerisms or traits.

From looking at that 1 minute intro, it looks like the whole reason why he dresses as a girl is to conceal his identity better. All superheroes out there always have disguises. It might be unorthodox, or unconventional, but writers for the show need to bring something new to the table. There's been many superheroes, and writers need to make something less generic. So I don't think their trying to get kids to dress in drag. I wouldn't see the purpose as to why they would want that in the first place.

Over the years of watching TV, I've seen many, many actors dress up as the opposite gender. And I have never dressed up as someone as the opposite sex.

All-in-all, I don't see the big deal with it. But I'm sure some insecure holy rollers will get bent out of shape about it.

reply to post by Lingweenie


Good point Christmas pantomimes are always a girl plays the male lead and men play the women. (Jack and the beanstalk, widow Twanky etc).

reply to post by Siberbat


i concur with you, and that is the stigmas and stereotypes that us Queens get, indeed, i don't do it for laughs, i don't dress as a busted "cross dresser", and i concur Hollywood has portrayed us queens as 'Comedic' or to 'get a laugh' from their audience, there is a bit of 'camp' to us, and there are many, many different styles of Drag Queens, but none of them are there to just get a cheep laugh,

that being said, i don't believe a cartoon such as this will teach children to 'weaken' the 'Male', or brainwash the children,

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Originally posted by Ismail reply to post by FlyersFan

Flyers, you're such a conformist.

Awesome! Is that you Raven??

Life is pain. Only pain.

Originally posted by AQuestion


Dear Darth_Prime,

I am not worried about gays, transgenders or much else. I believe the truth sets you free and the truth is that we should not seek to be God. Now what does that mean? It has nothing to do with being gay or transgendered or whatever, it has to do with seeking to be the sole truth in the universe and not loving one another. Your putting on a dress will not end civilization, trust me. People trading in their humanity to have the "benefits" of being animals is a lot more scary to me, choosing to be less than human. I am not afraid of two men kissing, I am horrified by the fact that it is legal to combine the genes of humans with those of pigs. Doesn't it concern you?

what does this have to do with the Cartoon? are you lumping Drag Queens, transgenders, and Transvestites into that same category?


i mean, people are free, and their body is their own personal property

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by AQuestion

 

Excellent points.

Maya Angelou's

AT HARVEST TIME in her book I WOULDN'T TAKE NOTHING FOR MY JOURNEY NOW

is excellent.

It notes very eloquently that we all reap what we sow.

It just doesn't work to plant cacti and hope to harvest mangoes or blueberries.

Pretending that there are no consequences for choices and behaviors is folly.

Pretending that the wholesale full court press of propaganda such as the cartoon--does not exist and has not been destroying a culture for more than 60 years--is folly.

The fact that 70-80% of the population have NO DEFENSE against swallowing wholesale, believing such propaganda is tragic.

Maya Angelou is a staunch supporter of the LGBT community. For you to highjack a poem of hers to fit your own biased personal opinion is abhorrent. You do a disservice to her and you do a disservice to yourself.

“I am gay. I am lesbian. I am black. I am white. I am Native American. I am Christian. I am Jew. I am Muslim.” - Maya Angelou"

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by Lingweenie

 

Good point Christmas pantomimes are always a girl plays the male lead and men play the women. (Jack and the beanstalk, widow Twanky etc).

Funny how you bring up Christmas.

On a show called "Raising Hope" there was an episode where the main characters true love, and his grandma both dressed up as a wise man for their live nativity set in their yard. It's a rather popular show, and i believe it is still on the air. And I have yet to see any kind of outrage to that, nor have I seen outrages on SNL when characters dress up as the opposite sex. I remember Robert De Niro dressed up as a "hutchy" momma type character about a year ago when he was hosting, And I saw no outrage there.

I just wanted to thank everyone who read or participated in this thread... I had no idea it would spark such a controversy...

I think this made a lot of us think a bit about the subject... And while I still don't agree with the age group this particular cartoon is directed at... In retrospect, I don't believe this cartoon will cause any harm to anyone...

When it comes down to it as a few people have said... Its just a cartoon.

I would also like to apologise to anyone that this thread might have offended...

It was not my intention... but this is a conspiracy forum, so I was looking for a good debate... and I found many.


Thanks again everyone... see Ya'll around the boards...

reply to post by windword


You take on this makes a strange kind of sense. However, (isn't there always), what some members are advocatibng here is that children be taught about transgender issues such as cross dressing. This I totally diagree with.

OK, let me break it down. Yes there is a great history of men dressing up as women for entertainment. For example the Bugs bunny we saw on page one. the two guys dressed up etc etc. In the UK, there is a massive cultural christmas phenomena known as the pantomine. I am sue US members may be familiar with this. This is aimed at children. The principle boy is ALWAYS a woman dressed as a man, and the Dame is ALWAYS a man dressed as a women.

This is because all of the above, is entertainment, comical, funny, and a little strange. Maybe that is the context in which cultural bias wnated to portray such issues, a little funny and quirky. Sonthing to be laughed at, and not at all normal.

Now, the above, in the reformed liberal mindset is unacceptable. How can we laugh at such issues. This should be propmoted as an alternate life style and people (children) need to be taugh about this.

Err sorry, no they don't

Why do we not teach kids about prostitution, pole / lap dancing bars, BDSM, or other things of a sexual nature. Because they are ADULT subjects.

Kids from 6-11 are just trying to get there heads around what happens when a man and a woman get together. They really do not need to be taught anything of an alternate lifestyle. Why,? you might add, because as whoch everything, you need to learn and master the basics first before you get into the advanced subjects and techniques (if this is right for you).

If I said I was going to teach my son how to tie up a woman so you don't suffocate her, I would be locked away. (I don't know how to do that by the way). So why would be want to teach kids about a life style choice / inclination (yes I am aware that ... blah blah blah) of people who find it natural or gratifying to dress / become a member of the opposite gender.

Cheers
JF

ETA, I just noticed above the point on pantos has already been mooted. Sorry for the double point, but I hope I put a different take on it.

reply to post by JakiusFogg


You are lumping in the clothing that someone chooses to wear with the sex they decide to have.

Let me illustrate by asking you a question.

Does wearing a dress make you want to kiss a man? I am asking a serious question in good faith. Do the clothes you wear make you personally act out in a way that might be seen as homosexual?

If wearing a dress doesn't make you want to kiss a man, then it is unfair to link cross dressing with homosexual behavior, as you are doing in your post.

People seem to be under the mistaken impression that the world has always merely been two genders and two sexes. It is widely known that ancient Israel had as many as 5 genders, each with it's own role in their society.

reply to post by MichaelPMaccabee


Fair point, but does that mean that there is a statistically significant number of men who want to be women, or at least dress like women, but wish to remain heterosexual? I too an asking a serious question. The point being is why would those men dress in women's clothes? I.e. what do they get out of it? Do they feel fulfilled, normalized, vindicated? or is there a sexual element.

I admit, and I think I made it clear in my post that performing an act, simply for it's own sake does not indicate something as boring as plain old homosexuality. Kinks are more complex than that I know.

However, I know of no man, OK maybe one or two, who are in the habit of dressing like women, just for the fun of it. (one of whom used to be the pantomime dame).

Originally posted by boymonkey74
Kids are more tolerant as others much more than adults.

Agreed.

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Just that adults turn it into a comedy

I made a post a while ago on ats and the title was THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH GAY CHILDREN and the post was generally about the liberal view that homosexuality should be exposed to children at a young age arguing they need to grow up knowing that it´s OK to be gay and its a natural choice to make .. anyway the first couple of posts i received were from fags as they obviously didnt like what i said then the entire thread was removed and i received a warning for posting what ats deems crap,

this cartoon is just 1 of many things aimed at converting regular children into freaks its plainly obvious to normal humans .

reply to post by JakiusFogg

If I said I was going to teach my son how to tie up a woman so you don't suffocate her, I would be locked away. (I don't know how to do that by the way). So why would be want to teach kids about a life style choice / inclination (yes I am aware that ... blah blah blah) of people who find it natural or gratifying to dress / become a member of the opposite gender.

I don't know how you get from role play dress up, allowing children to explore and express their relationships with others and themselves, into tying up a woman so you don't suffocate her!

You don't know how to do that? Watch more TV!



Sick minds!?

I suppose children shouldn't dress up like dragons either, because of the evil dragons of mythology, like the one from the book of Revelation! Dressing like a dragon could open them up to beastiality and demon possession!



Yikes!

reply to post by mykingdomforthetruth


without trying to derail the topic into this, Children should be taught that if they are gay they are 'Normal' as a straight person, they should also be taught tolerance, and acceptance

there is nothing wrong with being gay, we are born this way, if kids are meant to believe it 'dirty' and 'bad' and they find themselves to be homosexual, can you image the strain it will put on them