The Cartoon That Will Destroy America And/Or Entertain Some Children

reply to post by boymonkey74

Been posted before, I see no problem with it, kids will love it, it will not make boys dress as girls etc.

That's like saying kids aren't going to dress up as Batman, Superman, or other heroes. Of COURSE they will emulate what they see....

Kids are more tolerant as others much more than adults.

Tolerance is one thing, this is out and out promotion of an alternative lifestyle, to young children. I don't know if it's "wrong" per se....but unwise? Possibly....

When bugs bunny dressed as a girl did it make you want to be one? no thought not.

Apples and oranges. This didn't define Bugs. If I was going to dress up as Bugs Bunny and emulate him, it would be with a rabbit suit, not cross-dressing.

Destroy America? That's a bit melodramatic...but I think it's too late for that anyhow. Our concept of "normal" life is pretty much in the toilet these days. Some of that is for the better, some of it isn't. Tolerance though, is way different than Celebration....and this cartoon isn't about tolerance, it is about celebrating this change.

You can bet there will be some serious mega-Christian outrage at this show, that's for sure.


To another:

This should be propmoted as an alternate life style and people (children) need to be taugh about this.

Err sorry, no they don't

Why do we not teach kids about prostitution, pole / lap dancing bars, BDSM, or other things of a sexual nature. Because they are ADULT subjects.

Kids from 6-11 are just trying to get there heads around what happens when a man and a woman get together. They really do not need to be taught anything of an alternate lifestyle. Why,? you might add, because as whoch everything, you need to learn and master the basics first before you get into the advanced subjects

Well put. That's exactly the point.

Originally posted by mykingdomforthetruth
I made a post a while ago on ats and the title was THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH GAY CHILDREN and the post was generally about the liberal view that homosexuality should be exposed to children at a young age arguing they need to grow up knowing that it´s OK to be gay and its a natural choice to make .. anyway the first couple of posts i received were from fags as they obviously didnt like what i said then the entire thread was removed and i received a warning for posting what ats deems crap,

this cartoon is just 1 of many things aimed at converting regular children into freaks its plainly obvious to normal humans .

I would bet, homosexual tendencies have existed forever.
What's better, to hide it and pretend it doesn't exist, or deal with it in plain language.
Making this behavior taboo only alienates people who have these feelings and can create a deranged perspective in those who do not. (your language demonstrates this perfectly)

If you had a son who wanted to play with dolls and pretended to be a little girl, what would you do?
Wouldn't you want this child to grow up in a world where he/she is accepted and loved by everyone?

It starts by admitting this behavior exist and is not going away whether you like it or not. Perhaps you don't like it because you have been taught not to like or accept it.

If we are are lucky, future generations will not stigmatize those with homosexual tendencies.
I don't think there are people/organizations "out there" who want your children to be gay, but maybe they want your gay child to feel at least equal to others. I see this as a good thing because as of now, many of those children probably do not find acceptance at home.

What would you teach your feminine boy? Would you call him a freak, or a fag?

Originally posted by NarcolepticBuddha
In all fairness to the OP, I have wanted to dress as a woman so I could act in some sketch comedies. They always looked like they were having a blast!

But perhaps it takes a certain level of maturity and moral uprightness to watch something like Monty Python

edit on 19-6-2013 by NarcolepticBuddha because: (no reason given)

The Monty Python team were basically taking the piss out of small minded, working class and middle class women of the 60's and 70's...it was a laugh, but not really a swipe at or comment on sexuality or transgenderism.

I've lost count of how many times this gender swapping theme has been played out on tv, in movies (mostly US movies) and on stage....the panto dame is always a male in heavy drag, and the best or lead boy is normally a woman, such as in Peter Pan etc.

How many movies have the middle aged dad, who somehow magically swaps bodies (gender and generational swap) with his teenaged daughter?

Loads and loads. And those movies are aimed at teenagers.

Not saying there's anything wrong with dressing as a Woman now and again..if it floats your boat or you're off to a Rocky Horror show wearing suspenders (UK version) and stockings, perhaps a basque...so what, there's no harm in it, it's a giggle.

Most straight, outgoing men won't pass up an opportunity to get dressed up as a 'tart', especially if a few beers have been drunk.

But this cartoon, aimed at small kids...i'm not sure about. On the one hand i'm thinking aww...so what, there's no harm..if kids are going to grow up thinking they are the wrong gender, they'll do so cartoon or not, and those who are not going to be questioning their gender, won't be persuaded to start doing so because of a cartoon.

Then i think...it's all a little...creepy.

Isnt it funny that a boy dresses as a girl to hide his identity and it's creepy.
if this was a girl dressing as a boy, it wouldnt even be a topic up for discussion.

Originally posted by tanda7

Originally posted by mykingdomforthetruth
I made a post a while ago on ats and the title was THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH GAY CHILDREN and the post was generally about the liberal view that homosexuality should be exposed to children at a young age arguing they need to grow up knowing that it´s OK to be gay and its a natural choice to make .. anyway the first couple of posts i received were from fags as they obviously didnt like what i said then the entire thread was removed and i received a warning for posting what ats deems crap,

this cartoon is just 1 of many things aimed at converting regular children into freaks its plainly obvious to normal humans .

I would bet, homosexual tendencies have existed forever.
What's better, to hide it and pretend it doesn't exist, or deal with it in plain language.
Making this behavior taboo only alienates people who have these feelings and can create a deranged perspective in those who do not. (your language demonstrates this perfectly)

If you had a son who wanted to play with dolls and pretended to be a little girl, what would you do?
Wouldn't you want this child to grow up in a world where he/she is accepted and loved by everyone?

It starts by admitting this behavior exist and is not going away whether you like it or not. Perhaps you don't like it because you have been taught not to like or accept it.

If we are are lucky, future generations will not stigmatize those with homosexual tendencies.
I don't think there are people/organizations "out there" who want your children to be gay, but maybe they want your gay child to feel at least equal to others. I see this as a good thing because as of now, many of those children probably do not find acceptance at home.

What would you teach your feminine boy? Would you call him a freak, or a fag?

edit on 20-6-2013 by tanda7 because: spelling

if my son got a gay friend or felt confused i would make no bones about it, i would probably rent the most gruesome gay porno i could find then make my son watch it

2 guys eating eachothers # should put him of queers for life

then i would rent a proper descent porno of real beautilful asian women going at it with a dildo or something then i would tell him he can have a couple of asian women and a car for his 18th birthday if he stays straight and abstains untill then..

what would you do if your son was thinking about playing for the other team ?


lemme guess you would nurture those feelings expressing tolerance reinforcing the idea its ok ?

Originally posted by Akragon

(on a related note, did anybody ever put on the girdle of femininity when playing D&D? Oh come on! I know I wasn't the only one

Uhh... NO!

I always wanted to bash some goblin heads... and an elf or two if I had the chance...

Of course I was always a dwarf

You are the reason dwarves have the stigma of being misogynist racists. Way to go playing into your stereotype, little man.

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Akragon

(on a related note, did anybody ever put on the girdle of femininity when playing D&D? Oh come on! I know I wasn't the only one

Uhh... NO!

I always wanted to bash some goblin heads... and an elf or two if I had the chance...

Of course I was always a dwarf

You are the reason dwarves have the stigma of being misogynist racists. Way to go playing into your stereotype, little man.

Little Dwarf... thank you!

*sigh* This is going to be a bit of a coming-out post for me, since I don't think I've even written about my gender identity on these forums before. So here I go:

I identify myself as bi-gender, meaning I feel like a male and a female rolled into one in a male body. I can already hear so many cisgender folks crying "how the hell can you be both!?"
(cisgender means anyone who feels that their physical sex and their mental gender "match"; your average man/woman)

I first felt "different" from other children when I was 3 years old. Yes, you read that correctly. I was enrolled in a day-care program by my dad after my parents split up. I can still remember what happened that first day.

I had long hair down to my waist for whatever reason, I guess my parents never bothered to give me a haircut or I wouldn't sit still or something...so one of the other boyscame up to me and asked "are you a boy or a girl?" and that gave me pause. I replied "boy?" with a questioning upward inflection. I wasn't really sure. Most kids don't really question what it means to be a boy or a girl, they just accept what they're told. I spent a lot of that day staring at myself in the mirror, trying to figure out who I was.

The boy who asked me about my gender told me "girls can wear dresses but boys can't" and I remember thinking "why not?" We played dress-up on some days and sometimes I'd dress like a girl, and we'd laugh because it was all in good fun. Part of me felt shame for some reason, like I knew somehow at that age that people would think it wasn't right, but it seemed right to me.

I remember watching Bugs Bunny and loved it when he would cross-dress. He was a cool, relatable character to me because he didn't act like a boy or a girl all the time. I remember telling my dad I liked Bugs for this reason...I don't remember his response. Not a good sign. At some point I suppressed that side of me, still feeling this way but never showing it.

I'm happy with my body the way it is, though I wish I wasn't so hairy in some places but there's an easy fix for that. But I really hate being shoved into a box. I don't live up to a lot of society's expectations of how a man "should be", and I don't want to, and I sometimes get a bit offended if someone tells me how I should look or act. "Cut your hair", "work out and get buff", "man up" How 'bout no. At the same time some people seem to think that if I'm some kind of trans* person that I should go full girl-mode all the time and that is not what I want either. So what do I want? To be myself. To be whatever gender I feel like being at whatever time.

If seeing me express myself as who I am happens to offend you, feel free to gouge out your own eyes.

(end of personal disclosure)

*deep breath, trying to relax here*

So, as a bigender dude/chick/person, I love the idea that transgender/bigender/genderfluid/crossdresser kids of today can have a cartoon hero that they can identify with and look up to. I think it's effing wonderful!

And I absolutely abhor the idea that you're putting forth, that this cartoon is intended to brainwash the poor suggestible young boys into being disgusting freaks of nature . You know what's going to happen if a straight cisgender boy watches even a few minutes of this show? He's going to be turned off by the girly stuff and he's going to change the channel. END. OF. STORY.

Originally posted by Glass
So, as a bigender dude/chick/person, I love the idea that transgender/bigender/genderfluid/crossdresser kids of today can have a cartoon hero that they can identify with and look up to. I think it's effing wonderful!

You reminded me of the slogan to a movement I was going to start a while back. The philosophy included jargon that referred to all people as either "Chick-Suits" or "Dude-Suits" and it was supposed to exemplify the point that spiritual gender and physical gender are mutually exclusive things and are not even binary. The movement covered ethnic issues, as well, but focused a lot on gender.

The slogan I used on our mugs and shirts was "Dude-suits and chick-suits, pop-culture lied to you"

Your story reminded me of the reason why I was interested in it in the first place. Thanks.

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Glass
So, as a bigender dude/chick/person, I love the idea that transgender/bigender/genderfluid/crossdresser kids of today can have a cartoon hero that they can identify with and look up to. I think it's effing wonderful!

You reminded me of the slogan to a movement I was going to start a while back. The philosophy included jargon that referred to all people as either "Chick-Suits" or "Dude-Suits" and it was supposed to exemplify the point that spiritual gender and physical gender are mutually exclusive things and are not even binary. The movement covered ethnic issues, as well, but focused a lot on gender.

The slogan I used on our mugs and shirts was "Dude-suits and chick-suits, pop-culture lied to you"

Your story reminded me of the reason why I was interested in it in the first place. Thanks.

This is brilliant.

One of the benefits of the creeping of eastern thought into the western world is the concepts of overcoming ego. It is the salve that will heal the wounds left by our current scorched earth approach.

I have to admit, I was expecting something much worse.

I can sort of see your point, but this is nothing new. Many people have already mentioned Bugs Bunny.

Originally posted by bigfatfurrytexan

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by NarcolepticBuddha

 

Same answer as the others... Not to many children ages 6-11 watch monty Python...

This is a cartoon dedicated to children...

Maybe it just me... but I can't see anything good about this kind cartoon...

Why? Because boys who really want to dress like girls will be encouraged to do so?

The only bad thing that can be really listed is that adults don't want children to do that. To that i say, "Quit trying to control everyone around you."

All this hand wringing over "the gay". It is stupid. WHy do people care what other people do with their genitals? Why all this interest?

No, I say let your children be what they will be. And then love them for WHO they are, not WHAT they are.

Bunch of shallow people i share this planet with. Jeezus.

I love you

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Glass
So, as a bigender dude/chick/person, I love the idea that transgender/bigender/genderfluid/crossdresser kids of today can have a cartoon hero that they can identify with and look up to. I think it's effing wonderful!

You reminded me of the slogan to a movement I was going to start a while back. The philosophy included jargon that referred to all people as either "Chick-Suits" or "Dude-Suits" and it was supposed to exemplify the point that spiritual gender and physical gender are mutually exclusive things and are not even binary. The movement covered ethnic issues, as well, but focused a lot on gender.

The slogan I used on our mugs and shirts was "Dude-suits and chick-suits, pop-culture lied to you"

Your story reminded me of the reason why I was interested in it in the first place. Thanks.

That's awesome! I love it!

That's a big part of my spiritual beliefs which I have adopted and developed. I believe that non-binary folk like myself are here to bridge the gap between the gender poles in this time of social upheaval regarding women's rights and gay rights etc. To bring balance to the force, so to speak. Divine feminine energy has been suppressed for thousands of years, and look at the side effects of this: careless abuse of mother earth, war, greed, poverty. Humanity needs more feminine compassion and understanding.

By the way, where can I get one of those shirts?

Originally posted by mykingdomforthetruth

Originally posted by tanda7

then i would rent a proper descent porno of real beautilful asian women going at it with a dildo or something then i would tell him he can have a couple of asian women and a car for his 18th birthday if he stays straight and abstains untill then..

what would you do if your son was thinking about playing for the other team ?


lemme guess you would nurture those feelings expressing tolerance reinforcing the idea its ok ?

So you would rather foster in your child the belief that wome are a commodity ti be bought and sold, that prostitution is ok, that objectifying women of other races is ok.

Give me a gay guy with a moral code, than a straight guy brought up to respect no one.

edit on 20-6-2013 by WilsonWilson because: (no reason given)