The Names We Do Not Speak: The FEMALE Illuminati!

Originally posted by braveswin
reply to post by KilgoreTrout

 

I think Satan is "painted" red is because, well, sin is red. “Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they are red as crimson, they shall be like wool. – Isaiah 1:18

Maybe they thought that menstrating women were somehow more "sinful".

Double edged sword. Not only did the whole bleed every month without dying thing ruffle manly feathers for a number of reasons throughout the ages, you've also got the one time a month you are more or less guarenteed to be allowed sexytime jollies without finding yourself with another mouth to feed nine months down the line. A weeks liberation if you will.

Sinfully avoiding procreation and sinfully enjoying themselves probably didn't go down too well with the church.

As for truly influential woman with certain power you'd be hard pressed to miss out Julia Domna. Though she ended up quite the tragic matron mother eventually she did much with her time. Even reforming and reinstating the Vestal Virgins.

Originally posted by braveswin
reply to post by Signals

 

Who is this you posted above?

Katy Perry

there might also be some interesting related material in a topic i made here recently
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Apsaras ~Dame of Jokers

I know for a fact of one female member on ats is a Bonafide illuminati member. I cant say however because of TC rules and also, I don't want the men in black visit.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
I know for a fact of one female member on ats is a Bonafide illuminati member. I cant say however because of TC rules and also, I don't want the men in black visit.

I know who you are talking about and it is highly unlikely, no make that extremely unlikely. Just because they claim to work for a Rothschild does not mean anything. Only inferences can be made but no actual truth discerned.

All you can really do is accept that under the assumption that they do work for who they say they do, it is highly suspicious that they are so deep into the esoteric teachings and yet claim that those they associate with have nothing to do with such things.

Also it has not been disclosed as to what manner of work they do for the accused party if one even accepts that they are employed.

Don't rush to conclusions.

That being said, I find their explanations to certain questions extremely lackluster and their dodgy answers to documented material quite telling.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver

Was I curious if people were willing to discuss something like women and the oppression from various places? Of course, but believe me when I tell you, I do not regret writing this. Peace, NRE.

Oh believe you me NRE. I know. Besides it seems only the controversial or things that push peoples buttons get the most responses and get people really thinking about things, both for good and bad. Its like a total mystery why that is. yup totally mysterious like.

To tell the truth I did not even read this thread only like the first few pages. But its no secret that if men are doing something or in some cult or group, well there is bound to be women in there to, or supporting it from the sidelines so that way they get all the benefits and none of the blame. Its like a total duh. And its also like a total whatever. I believe in equality, and saying that there are a lot of women out there who are just as full of it as there male counterparts.

Besides I think, and if it actually exists or existed, you can count the real numbers of the illuminati or these wise masters or whatever it is now, on one hand. Life has a tendency to imitate art, sometimes for a thing to grow all you need is just a rumor of it. Kind of like if you build it they will come. People just tend to take things way to serious and bring it to far. Who knows maybe in a few years we may even have cults around this, complete with secret handshakes, mysterious innuendo by the idols of the day, and awesome knowledge to which only a few are privy to, also funny hats, and all that.

reply to post by FriedBabelBroccoli

I know who you are talking about and it is highly unlikely, no make that extremely unlikely. Just because they claim to work for a Rothschild does not mean anything. Only inferences can be made but no actual truth discerned.

I know the person you think I know who is illuminati and NO its not that person. This is someone you would least suspect im talking about. I cant say how I found out and cant say who it is only its not the person you think im thinking of.

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


Check the word AMAZON in your dictionary, the Greek , leave you to read the rest

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The closer to god, and his light he prevails - the bigger your shadows becomes. This is just an illusion...~Dame of Jokers

reply to post by NoRegretsEver


You would be surprised how many people can trace their lineage back to the European royal houses....so this claim, if true, isn't as "special" as you might think it is. Even the Royals of this era are "just people."

Anyway, back to the real subject at hand....

OP, I highly recommend you understand the fallacy of your own theory. There must be a balance between the masculine and the feminine. Each gender has it's own role which is separate and unique but it does NOT "rule" over the other. Any number of esoteric texts will tell you the same fact.

These are the Explicit Holy Exalted Names. There are twelve Names, one for each of the twelve tribes of Israel:

Ah-Tzitzah-ron
Aklithah-ron
Shemaqtharon
Demushah-ron
Ve-Tzaphtzaphithron
Hurmyron
Brach Yah-ron
Eresh Gadra-aon
Basavah Monahon
Chazhavayah
Havahayryhah
Ve-Harayth-hon

All of them are included in the Heart of heaven.
They include male and female. They are given over to the Axis, the Sphere and the Heart,
and they are the wellsprings of Wisdom.

In like manner the Indian philosophers affirm, the World to be an Animal, partly Masculine, and partly Feminine; and Orpheus also calleth Nature or the Jove of this world, both the male and female thereof, and that the gods partake of both Sexes. Hence it is, that in his Hymnes he thus salutes Minerva, You are indeed both man and woman; and Apuleius in his book of the world, out of the Divinity of Orpheus produceth this verse of Jupiter,

Jove is both male and female, immortall.
And Virgil speaking of Venus saith,
I descend, and the God guiding -----
And elsewhere, understanding Juno or Alecto, he saith
Neither was God absent from her praying.
And Tibullus sings,
I who prophaned have the Deities Of Venus great -----

Everything is double in nature; magnetism is positive and negative, active and passive, male and female.

The female on the left side and the male on the right side are the plus (positive) and the minus (negative)
in every human being.

In their middle is seen a hermaphrodite, a creature personifying the male and female combined in one as
the sign of concinnity between the male and female principle.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
I know for a fact of one female member on ats is a Bonafide illuminati member. I cant say however because of TC rules and also, I don't want the men in black visit.

mon ami....that kind of statement can only inflame the conversation. Where do you expect this to go?

reply to post by CIAGypsy

Each gender has it's own role which is separate and unique but it does NOT "rule" over the other.

You cant possibly be serious with that statement, and I do not understand the reason for the quotes that you provided.

Peace, NRE.

If the person you are all referring to was a snake, it would bite you ;-) ~Dame of Joker$

reply to post by CIAGypsy

mon ami....that kind of statement can only inflame the conversation. Where do you expect this to go?

Not to disclosure, only an awareness the eyes of the illuminati turn up in the most unusual of places. .

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
reply to post by CIAGypsy

 

mon ami....that kind of statement can only inflame the conversation. Where do you expect this to go?

Not to disclosure, only an awareness the eyes of the illuminati turn up in the most unusual of places. .

But that's the irony, because making that kind of a statement will only lead others to press you for proof. So...either you provide proof or risk being dismissed, with credibility tarnished for some. (Btw, I'm not pressing for anything, just analyzing the causal outcome of your statement.)

The real argument will end up being whether the alleged "Illuminati" is real or a figment of CT imagination. Of course, it's no surprise to anyone who knows me that I believe there IS no such group. My knowledge is based upon - knowing the groups in question, knowing the people in question, knowing how secrecy works (or doesn't work - look at the NSA for example), knowing statistics, and much more. Even the people who have come forward with debatable arguments point to each other as their "proof" which is usually based only on unsupportable testimony and flimsy "evidence." I'm not saying that nothing has EVER happened in the history of the world, as there is usually some small kernel of truth from which these ridiculous stories grow, but by-and-large there is not some secretive, shady group, run by 13 families, who intends to take over the world and enslave humanity.

ETA - occasional criminal activity does NOT constitute global, universal collusion. If you want to make a case, then show the evidence which includes the ties and guilt of those you accuse.

And then there is the basis to which the OP is theorizing the female principle over (or behind) the male. She and the others point to some, yet undefined, esoteric belief to support this theory.....yet, anyone who does a modicum of research would see that idea is blatantly false. All wisdom erupts from the Godhead, which is androgynous. Once a separation occurs, it is important to understand the importance of BALANCE between male and female principles.

Btw, AthlonSavage, not all of this post was directed at you, personally... But I think you know that...

Originally posted by thefourthjokerscard
If the person you are all referring to was a snake, it would bite you ;-) ~Dame of Joker$

C'est vrai!

reply to post by CIAGypsy


I really wish you would tell me who you were in your past life.

Anyone who read this thread should note I essentially laid out the belief structure CIAGypsy is espousing.

Note their interests and who they claim to be affiliated with and recognize that it is not some secret organization but a group of people in places of influence but a general ideology that permeates throughout the thrones.

Please CIA I desperately want to know if you were Queen Elizabeth, Hatsheput, or any other in your past life!

Sincerely,
FBB

Originally posted by CIAGypsy
And then there is the basis to which the OP is theorizing the female principle over (or behind) the male. She and the others point to some, yet undefined, esoteric belief to support this theory.....yet, anyone who does a modicum of research would see that idea is blatantly false. All wisdom erupts from the Godhead, which is androgynous. Once a separation occurs, it is important to understand the importance of BALANCE between male and female principles.

Here lies the problem, we are not, even remotely, at the core of the issue, dealing with esoteric knowledge, or even wisdom. It is all exoteric, freely available, not entirely complete, but all the same, well and truly out there. All this nonsense about the Illuminati, as portrayed on the internet, is mere subterfuge. It is easy to find, and provides short, succinct little sound bites that make it catchy and easy to follow, ipso facto, the answer to all questions is provided, it is all completely out of your control, you are a victim and there are all encompassing secret societies reaching into all aspects of your life. Give up, the path is closed to you. Nonsense of course, but highly effective. But then, the same can be said for this notion of 'godhead', and I do not doubt that such a thing can be experienced, but it is, in essence, highly subjective, and as often as not, such experience is directed by doctrine, we see what we expect, or are conditioned to see. God in and of itself, as a concept and as a perceivable aspect of 'reality', is highly subjective, unquantifiable and without concensus. Wisdom does not 'erupt out of the Godhead', wisdom is an observable reality, and is based on the acquisition of knowledge and experience, as such, it is earned, seldom given, it certainly isn't dependent on membership to some club or other.

Now, anyone who had done even a modicum of research would know, that despite, as you propose, the androgynous nature of the godhead, according to your reality, that on the material plane, at least, balance has not been the order of things. So while the esoteric may lean towards that ideal, the exoteric evidentially shows something quite to the contrary, and quite the lack of balance between the male and female aspects, in the human domain at least. Progress is certainly being made, but we are looking at a very long period in history when women bore the brunt of the negative aspects, esoterically speaking