The New War in Britain is starting...EDL peaceful protest attacked by UAF and Muslims not covered i

Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse

Originally posted by GonzoSinister

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
Well any child pedophile rings need to be exposed asap and everything in peoples power needs to be done to stop and prevent these from accuring again.

And that goes for ANY pedophile ring from ANY religion.

I Agree 100% but im just wanting to be sure that what is being made out within the posts is that Muslims are commiting these atrocities on a greater scale than non muslims, otherwise when dealing with Race or religous based arguments it would be a moot point as the issue is there are pedophile gangs, not that they are Muslim.. surely?

your not wanting to be sure you already have your pre concieved thoughts and feelings. You insinuate im a racist lying thug.

No i have not, i have not insinuated that anything you have said is a lie, i have suggested that the evidence you provdied and the things you have said only show one side of a much greater issue, im sure for example i could get a statisc about christians and broken homes, but it wouldnt mean that the only people in the UK from broken homes were Christian...

You are getting defensive when i have not at any point suggested you are a Racist, or a Liar, or infact a thug,
i have said that directly from someone who has to police the EDL Protests the people who are present are in most cases nothing more that Hooligans, i have at no point ever Suggested anything to do with race i relation to your posts about Muslims sex gangs....

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suggestions are insinuations, i provided evidence for 10000 child victims now show me evidence anywhere of more victims from any particular peodophile gang in the u.k. you may be tolerant, good ,
our morals and conscience must be at peace. People who post racist vibes against the EDL must be really happy for the victims.

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Any comments on the link i provided? Oh i see what your getting at about highlighting only one side of the story

It would seem EDL rallies may differ, the ones i have witnessed near us, have been little better than skin head rallies.
Lots of disturbing chanting, the groups then hit the pubs after, which leads to them singing racist songs and swearing in the streets.
and this is in daytime while people are still walking around with their children.

The people that seem to focus on the race of certain peadophile rings, seems to completely discount the one that was operating out of the BBC, all of which seem to be white (although i could be wrong)

All as bad as each other...line em up and shoot em
Oh and OP I used to live in Bradford and have many Muslim pals, not one agree with fundamentalism...but like I said If anyone does bugger it put em down...its the only way to be sure.


Oh and also OP do you write for the Sunday Sport? because with Headlines like this you must do.
New war Hahahahahahahahaha.

Originally posted by WilsonWilson
It would seem EDL rallies may differ, the ones i have witnessed near us, have been little better than skin head rallies.
Lots of disturbing chanting, the groups then hit the pubs after, which leads to them singing racist songs and swearing in the streets.
and this is in daytime while people are still walking around with their children.

The people that seem to focus on the race of certain peadophile rings, seems to completely discount the one that was operating out of the BBC, all of which seem to be white (although i could be wrong)

jimmy saville and who else? I didnt know one man could be a gang?strange . And whats wrong with drinking? Your not a muslim vigilante are you?

Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by GonzoSinister

 

Any comments on the link i provided? Oh i see what your getting at about highlighting only one side of the story

For your above posts, i have not said anything about Racism, at all, i dont know why you keep suggesting it?

for the one i quoted, i have only read through the reports, a video is no good to me at work so i will need to watch it later, as niether the report that accompanies your video your provided summarise the video with "muslim Gangs" i decided to wait untill i can watch the video to comment on it.

also i have not at any point said what you are saying is false, mearly asked what it relates too in terms of victims outwith the muslim gangs, for example, i know froma brief google search that they reckon about 250,000 children are trafficed in the US each year as slaves\sex slaves etc. as such im presuming these are not all done by muslims so i would like to know what figure actually is in terms of a percentage?

there somewhere must be the same figure for the uk, if for example you could show that 80% of trafficing of children in the Uk was done by muslim gangs then your point about it happening would be valid, however if it was then shown infact only 30% or 40% of the trafficking was done by muslims then you would be singling out the Muslims as the cause of somthing that they are not, they are mearly a part of the bigger picture

(again i cannot stress it is sick and must be stopped, i just need to see actual evidence to prove it is "muslims" causing it rather than "people")

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Think you may have missed some of the news, there are quite a few men who have now been charged with crimes now.

I am not a Muslim, i was brought up protestant in a white working class Yorkshire family if that somehow validates me in your eyes.

I do love a drink as a lot of Yorkshire people do, but shouting and swearing in the middle of the day in front of kids? big no no.

Originally posted by GonzoSinister

Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by GonzoSinister

 

Any comments on the link i provided? Oh i see what your getting at about highlighting only one side of the story

For your above posts, i have not said anything about Racism, at all, i dont know why you keep suggesting it?

for the one i quoted, i have only read through the reports, a video is no good to me at work so i will need to watch it later, as niether the report that accompanies your video your provided summarise the video with "muslim Gangs" i decided to wait untill i can watch the video to comment on it.

also i have not at any point said what you are saying is false, mearly asked what it relates too in terms of victims outwith the muslim gangs, for example, i know froma brief google search that they reckon about 250,000 children are trafficed in the US each year as slaves\sex slaves etc. as such im presuming these are not all done by muslims so i would like to know what figure actually is in terms of a percentage?

there somewhere must be the same figure for the uk, if for example you could show that 80% of trafficing of children in the Uk was done by muslim gangs then your point about it happening would be valid, however if it was then shown infact only 30% or 40% of the trafficking was done by muslims then you would be singling out the Muslims as the cause of somthing that they are not, they are mearly a part of the bigger picture

(again i cannot stress it is sick and must be stopped, i just need to see actual evidence to prove it is "muslims" causing it rather than "people")

The case raised a serious debate about whether the crimes were racially motivated. [19] There were suggestions that police and social work departments failed to act when details of the gang first emerged for fear of appearing racist, and ignored vulnerable white teenagers who were being groomed by Pakistani men. [22][23][24] Tim Loughton, the Minister for Children and Families, stated that while there was no evidence that any ethnic communities condoned child sexual abuse, he was concerned that some had been slow to report it to the police, and urged police and social workers not to allow "political correctness around ethnicity" to hinder their work to apprehend such crimes. [25]

Since late 2011 the Office of the Children's Commissioner has been making a two-year inquiry into child sexual exploitation by street gangs. [26] After the sentencing of the Rochdale gang, the UK’s Department of Education announced new funding for a specialist foster care scheme to help protect vulnerable children in residential care, as some of those who had been victims of the gang had been. [27]
Wikipedia article,google is your friend,-sometimes

Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse

Originally posted by GonzoSinister

Originally posted by symptomoftheuniverse
reply to post by GonzoSinister

 

Any comments on the link i provided? Oh i see what your getting at about highlighting only one side of the story

For your above posts, i have not said anything about Racism, at all, i dont know why you keep suggesting it?

for the one i quoted, i have only read through the reports, a video is no good to me at work so i will need to watch it later, as niether the report that accompanies your video your provided summarise the video with "muslim Gangs" i decided to wait untill i can watch the video to comment on it.

also i have not at any point said what you are saying is false, mearly asked what it relates too in terms of victims outwith the muslim gangs, for example, i know froma brief google search that they reckon about 250,000 children are trafficed in the US each year as slaves\sex slaves etc. as such im presuming these are not all done by muslims so i would like to know what figure actually is in terms of a percentage?

there somewhere must be the same figure for the uk, if for example you could show that 80% of trafficing of children in the Uk was done by muslim gangs then your point about it happening would be valid, however if it was then shown infact only 30% or 40% of the trafficking was done by muslims then you would be singling out the Muslims as the cause of somthing that they are not, they are mearly a part of the bigger picture

(again i cannot stress it is sick and must be stopped, i just need to see actual evidence to prove it is "muslims" causing it rather than "people")

The case raised a serious debate about whether the crimes were racially motivated. [19] There were suggestions that police and social work departments failed to act when details of the gang first emerged for fear of appearing racist, and ignored vulnerable white teenagers who were being groomed by Pakistani men. [22][23][24] Tim Loughton, the Minister for Children and Families, stated that while there was no evidence that any ethnic communities condoned child sexual abuse, he was concerned that some had been slow to report it to the police, and urged police and social workers not to allow "political correctness around ethnicity" to hinder their work to apprehend such crimes. [25]

Since late 2011 the Office of the Children's Commissioner has been making a two-year inquiry into child sexual exploitation by street gangs. [26] After the sentencing of the Rochdale gang, the UK’s Department of Education announced new funding for a specialist foster care scheme to help protect vulnerable children in residential care, as some of those who had been victims of the gang had been. [27]
Wikipedia article,google is your friend,-sometimes

Thank you and i will watch the video later.

however this still doesnt clear up what it means in terms of percentage,

to clear up my issues as i think you think i have some kind of opinion on you or you feel i may be attacking you...

if this has been done by 100 Muslims or even 1000 muslims it would be less than 0.01% - 1% of the muslim population in the uk that is tarring alot of people with a particular brush... and i do not beleive it reflects the mindset of the standard mulsim in the street in the uk.

depending on how many people (children) are trafficed within the UK in any given year, your claim that this is being caused by Muslims could then be proven correct or proven as a falsified claim to push an agenda, these are the things i would like to clear up.


i have real issues with an entire group of people being persecuted because of a minority.

I truley feel for all the victims of Child trafficing not just those being effected by one ethnic or religous group.

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hiya, i followed your link that you said provided evidence of the horrific claim of 10,000 victims of islamic sex grooming gangs in the uk - this is the one that went to the "dispatches" vid right?
sadly i have no sound on the pc i am at atm, and the caption by the vid mentions 100 victims which is obviously just 1% of 10,000.
if i did not follow the right link, please let me know, otherwise i'm struggling to see the evidence - could you post a textual report please?

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You need sound on your p.c

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If he is representation of the edl then osama bin laden represents muslims

Originally posted by charles1952
I just had a strange thought. In the US, if you commit a crime against a member of a particular group (and a couple of other requirements) it gets classified as a "Hate Crime." Could Rigby, the Boston marathon, and the thousands of other deadly attacks by Sunnis each year also be considered "hate crimes?"

If so, will the Southern Poverty Law Center label Sunni Muslims as a hate group? And since Sunnis are 75% - 90% of the Islamic population, can't we label Islam as the religion of hate?

No deep analysis here, I'm just letting my mind wander where it will.

If the Southern Poverty Law Center is involved and being that it is a Zionist organization will try to do their best to label it as a hate crime if an Arab is involved. Even if that Arab is Muslim or Christian. The SPLC is really no different than any other radical organization.

And no just because one group is being portrayed as a hate full group which is nonsense seeing how there are almost two billion Muslims and there are not hundreds of millions of them going around attacking people just shows Islam is not a religion of hate and besides to condemn a religion as a whole because of the actions of a few is just a sign of ignorance and hate for the religion itself.

The case raised a serious debate about whether the crimes were racially motivated. [19] There were suggestions that police and social work departments failed to act when details of the gang first emerged for fear of appearing racist, and ignored vulnerable white teenagers who were being groomed by Pakistani men. [22][23][24] Tim Loughton, the Minister for Children and Families, stated that while there was no evidence that any ethnic communities condoned child sexual abuse, he was concerned that some had been slow to report it to the police, and urged police and social workers not to allow "political correctness around ethnicity" to hinder their work to apprehend such crimes. [25]

Since late 2011 the Office of the Children's Commissioner has been making a two-year inquiry into child sexual exploitation by street gangs. [26] After the sentencing of the Rochdale gang, the UK’s Department of Education announced new funding for a specialist foster care scheme to help protect vulnerable children in residential care, as some of those who had been victims of the gang.
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