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Originally posted by JB1234
Would the first century Christian's have smoked when they found out it harned your own health, that of your unborn child & that of others who breathe in your smoke?
Originally posted by The Great Day
reply to post by smallpeeps
ask yourself...why do i have to resort to name calling
Originally posted by The Great Day
reply to post by smallpeeps
i add in my own small way....
at least you said love once in your last verbage...i like that. I think you at least still believe in something....but funny how you put so much effort into the defamation of the JW's with vim and vinegar!
Are you an ex? Have you been hurt?...no...then why so vehement?
Its how you come across.
We can have a new system, without Armageddon.
“They are, in fact, expressions inspired by demons and perform signs, and they go forth to the kings of the entire inhabited earth, to gather them together to the war of the great day of God the Almighty.” (Revelation 16:14)
"They are demonic spirits who work miracles and go out to all the rulers of the world to gather them for battle against the Lord on that great judgment day of God the Almighty." - NLT
“For Jehovah has indignation against all the nations, and rage against all their army. He must devote them to destruction; he must give them to the slaughter.” (Isaiah 34:2)
“And the kings of the earth and the top-ranking ones and the military commanders and the rich and the strong ones and every slave and every free person hid themselves in the caves and in the rock-masses of the mountains. And they keep saying to the mountains and to the rock-masses: ‘Fall over us and hide us from the face of the One seated on the throne and from the wrath of the Lamb, because the great day of their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?’”—Revelation 6:15-17.
“These will battle with the Lamb, but, because he is Lord of lords and King of kings, the Lamb will conquer them. Also, those called and chosen and faithful with him [will do so].”” (Revelation 17:14)
“ And I saw the heaven opened, and, look! a white horse. And the one seated upon it is called Faithful and True, and he judges and carries on war in righteousness. His eyes are a fiery flame, and upon his head are many diadems. He has a name written that no one knows but he himself, and he is arrayed with an outer garment sprinkled with blood, and the name he is called is The Word of God. Also, the armies that were in heaven were following him on white horses, and they were clothed in white, clean, fine linen. And out of his mouth there protrudes a sharp long sword, that he may strike the nations with it, and he will shepherd them with a rod of iron. He treads too the winepress of the anger of the wrath of God the Almighty. And upon his outer garment, even upon his thigh, he has a name written, King of kings and Lord of lords.” (Revelation 19:11-16)
“I saw also an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out with a loud voice and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God, that YOU may eat the fleshy parts of kings and the fleshy parts of military commanders and the fleshy parts of strong men and the fleshy parts of horses and of those seated upon them, and the fleshy parts of all, of freemen as well as of slaves and of small ones and great.”” (Revelation 19:17-18)
“And those slain by Jehovah will certainly come to be in that day from one end of the earth clear to the other end of the earth. They will not be bewailed, neither will they be gathered up or be buried. As manure on the surface of the ground they will become.’” (Jeremiah 25:33)
10 Let your kingdom come. Let your will take place, as in heaven, also upon earth.
"Your agenda is to paint us all as brain washed eediots... and we're not, we're honest hearted citizens, who beleive in God and try to do what Jesus commanded us to do"
Also what bothers me about these types of "super-Righteous Super-Groups" is that its all a set up
Zechariah 14:13 . . ."And it must occur in that day [that] confusion from Jehovah will become widespread among them; and they will actually grab hold, each one of the hand of his companion, and his hand will actually come up against the hand of his companion".
What kind of world remains after Armageddon, isn't known, but cleaning up the bodies can be presumed do be done "by the birds" or something nice. Reality however, would logically be different. Body removal isn't easy, as WW2 events show. How then to have a "new system" without many many years of labor after "Armageddon"? You see?
Revelation 19:17 . . .and said to all the birds that fly in midheaven: “Come here, be gathered together to the great evening meal of God. . .
Ezekiel 39:17 . . .birds of every sort of wing and to all the wild beasts of the field. . .
Ezekiel 39:14-16 “‘And there will be men for continual [employment] whom they will divide off, passing along through the land, burying, with those passing through, those left remaining on the surface of the earth, in order to cleanse it. To the end of seven months they will keep making search. 15 And those passing through must pass along through the land, and should one actually see the bone of a man he must also build beside it a marker, until those who do the burying will have buried it in the Valley of Gog’s Crowd. 16 And the name of [the] city will also be Ha‧mo′nah. And they will have to cleanse the land.’
Ha‧mo′nah [meaning “Crowd (Multitude)”].
Originally posted by edmc^2
reply to post by smallpeeps
We can have a new system, without Armageddon.
Not gonna happen because Satan is bent on bringing it on the inhabited earth.
Originally posted by JB1234
reply to post by smallpeeps
Also what bothers me about these types of "super-Righteous Super-Groups" is that its all a set up
Jehovah's Witnesses do not judge anyone - that is not our role.
Originally posted by JB1234
reply to post by smallpeeps
What kind of world remains after Armageddon, isn't known, but cleaning up the bodies can be presumed do be done "by the birds" or something nice. Reality however, would logically be different. Body removal isn't easy, as WW2 events show. How then to have a "new system" without many many years of labor after "Armageddon"? You see?
Science maintains that mass extinction events have happened in the past & the environment coped with the aftermath.
Originally posted by edmc^2
reply to post by smallpeeps
Huh?
What does CTR, Jews, Zionist, Palestine have to do with the U.N. and it's adherents destroying false religion?
Jesus stated that the days of that tribulation would be cut short “on account of the chosen ones,” the remnant of anointed Christians still on earth. (Matt. 24:22) Jehovah will not allow this destructive attack on false religion to wipe out anointed Christians and their other sheep companions. Jesus added that “after the tribulation of those days,” there will be signs in sun, moon, and stars, “and then the sign of the Son of man will appear in heaven.” This will cause the nations of the earth to “beat themselves in lamentation.” Not so the anointed, who have a heavenly hope, and their companions, who have an earthly hope. They will ‘raise themselves erect and lift up their heads because their deliverance is getting near.’—Matt. 24:29, 30; Luke 21:25-28. w10 9/15 5:13, 14
Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by JB1234
If JWs are so legitimate, how come they spend so much time harassing kind folks?
It gets to the point where they feel the need to send people who know sign language to bug me. How did they know this? They must have some kind of database somewhere.
Doesn't sound like a religion to me. Then again, neither do mormonism or scientology.
2 Chronicles 36:15-16 . . ."And Jehovah the God of their forefathers kept sending against them by means of his messengers, sending again and again, because he felt compassion for his people and for his dwelling. 16 But they were continually making jest at the messengers of the [true] God and despising his words and mocking at his prophets, until the rage of Jehovah came up against his people, until there was no healing"
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Panic of 1907 [Wikipedia]
[...]
Aftermath
The frequency of crises and the severity of the 1907 panic added to concern about the outsized role of J.P. Morgan which led to renewed impetus toward a national debate on reform.[57] In May 1908, Congress passed the Aldrich–Vreeland Act that established the National Monetary Commission to investigate the panic and to propose legislation to regulate banking.[58] Senator Nelson Aldrich (R–RI), the chairman of the National Monetary Commission, went to Europe for almost two years to study that continent's banking systems.
you'll see the words from the 1908 (post crash events) headline from the 1908 NY Times:
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WEARY CONGRESS ENDS ITS SESSION; Adjournment Comes Quickly After Currency Bill Is Forced Through Senate. ONE ROOSEVELT VICTORY Government Employers' Liability Bill Put Through -- President Says He Is Pleased with Results.
Special to The New York Times.
May 31, 1908
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wiki/Aldrich_Vreeland_Act
Congress modified and extended the law in 1914 when British and other foreign creditors demanded immediate payments, in gold, of amounts which would ordinarily have been carried over and paid through exports of commodities.
Senator Nelson W. Aldrich (R-RI) was largely responsible for the Aldrich-Vreeland Currency Law, and he became the Chairman of the National Monetary commission. The co-sponsor of the legislation was Rep. Edward Vreeland, a Republican from New York.
A usage of the law occurred at the outbreak of the World War I in 1914 when the first great financial panic of the twentieth century befell the world, necessitating the closure of the New York Stock Exchange. Secretary of the Treasury William Gibbs McAdoo appeared in New York City and assured the public that ample stocks of emergency bank notes had been prepared in accordance with the Aldrich–Vreeland Act and were available for issue to the banks. As of October 23, 1914, $368,616,990 was outstanding.
The Federal Reserve Act of December 23, 1913 took effect in November, 1914 when the 12 regional banks opened for business. Ultimately the emergency currency issued under the Aldrich-Vreeland Law was entirely withdrawn.
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^ "New currency bill passes the House". The New York Times: p. 1. May 28, 1908