What has been the greatest lie ever told to humanity?

Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to post by AthlonSavage

 

It started in prehistory, and is still the greatest divider against us all, and the single most powerful thing slowing and stopping our progress as a species.

We were once told we are different, we are not all the same, some of us are better than others, based of many criteria, race, religion, socio/economic status, height, weight, good looking, or not attractive etc.....

Without all these reasons to divide ourselves out of the whole of humanity, and into smaller subgroups, we would not have the majority of the problems we do at present.


Just the way I see it honestly.

This is true...we are different.Different races are different.Men and women are different.Some people are prettier than others and prosper from it.Some are weaker..some stronger..some smarter...some meaner.You ultra lefties need to deal with truth and nature.Nature is not only the spring rain that you want us all to hold hands and dance in, it is also the lion that sinks it's teeth in to the throat of a young gazelle.You need to get honest with yourself. That's just the way I see it.

Originally posted by Midnight4444
reply to post by AthlonSavage

 

Isn't the question really "what is the biggest lie told by humanity"?

But maybe I'm just playing semantics, I'm not really sure. There could be a great deal of difference between those questions.

I think you are asking what do we think is the biggest lie believed by humanity, which is a third question altogether...ahhhhh, my Brain is about to explode!

Honest answer...the belief in an afterlife.

edit on 30-5-2013 by Midnight4444 because: Because brain is not spelled brian

....since you know there's not one? what authority told you?....oh wait..you just know right?

Originally posted by Boscov
reply to post by AthlonSavage

 

The greatest lie ever told to me as a child was, Santa Claus is real.

The greatest lie ever told to me as a young adolescent was, money doesn't grow on trees, you have to earn it. Yet our gov't and banks just print it or takes it by force.

The greatest lie ever told to me as a college student was, you need a degree to make an honest living and it will provide you with job stability.

The greatest lie ever told to me as an adult citizen of the U.S.A. was and still is, that taxes are necessary for a functioning society.

All that said, the greatest lie ever told to humanity, in my opinion, is not so much a direct lie, rather, a complex web of sins of omission, "white lies" that need to be told to keep order. The biggest of all, "that all men are created equal". I mean seriously, someone born with a genetic disorder, mental condition, or just born into the wrong environment, is on equal footing and has the same opportunities as everyone else? No, they got the shaft. In order for all men to be equal, the haves must give the have nots what they need: food, shelter, clothing, money, education, jobs, medicine, surgery, organs,... and hope, love, direction, discipline, laws. We must raise humanity up, and we should, but the idea that all men were created equal is a farce. You get what you get and you have to do the best with it you can, and help people when you can, how you can. I am sick of Utopian idealists who are putting the cart before the horse. We as humanity must change things, and we can, through science and morals. But it is not enough to say it, identify the problems and solutions, we all must do it, and do it like an involuntary muscle contraction, without direct thought, it just gets done.

Well done.

The wisest person in all of written history was Solomon. That's not my opinion, I'm simply stating the position taken by world leaders and scholars at the time of his life, and after his death. If you disagree with this then all I can say is that he was most certainly wiser, smarter, and more learned than anyone here.

Read his views on this topic in the book of Ecclesiastes. In fact, his position stands in alignment with all the other great wise minds in history, so that book carries a profound message.

reply to post by AthlonSavage

So many,evolution,ufo's not being of earthly origin,we need the banking system,it seems that we are lied to at every turn,yet who is ultimately to blame?,those who give birth to the lie or those who perpetuate it through believing the lie in the first place?

reply to post by Midnight4444

Originally posted by Midnight4444
... the biggest lie believed by humanity ... Honest answer...the belief in an afterlife.

Or, the denial of an afterlife.
One of us is lying.

"Capitalism is the only viable economic system, which is great because anyone who works hard can get really rich"

^^Biggest lie ever told.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


Honestly I only have a 1 word answer, but being as a single word answer is frowned upon I will use this filler to make up the numbers.

Jesus is the biggest lie.

Originally posted by giugliot
reply to post by Midnight4444

Originally posted by Midnight4444
... the biggest lie believed by humanity ... Honest answer...the belief in an afterlife.

Or, the denial of an afterlife.
One of us is lying.

edit on 31-5-2013 by giugliot because: spelling

Technically neither of you are lying as no one really knows for sure.

Personally I hope for an afterlife, or reincarnation.

Originally posted by Boscov
reply to post by AthlonSavage

 

The greatest lie ever told to me as a child was, Santa Claus is real.

The greatest lie ever told to me as a young adolescent was, money doesn't grow on trees, you have to earn it. Yet our gov't and banks just print it or takes it by force.

The greatest lie ever told to me as a college student was, you need a degree to make an honest living and it will provide you with job stability.

The greatest lie ever told to me as an adult citizen of the U.S.A. was and still is, that taxes are necessary for a functioning society.

All that said, the greatest lie ever told to humanity, in my opinion, is not so much a direct lie, rather, a complex web of sins of omission, "white lies" that need to be told to keep order. The biggest of all, "that all men are created equal". I mean seriously, someone born with a genetic disorder, mental condition, or just born into the wrong environment, is on equal footing and has the same opportunities as everyone else? No, they got the shaft. In order for all men to be equal, the haves must give the have nots what they need: food, shelter, clothing, money, education, jobs, medicine, surgery, organs,... and hope, love, direction, discipline, laws. We must raise humanity up, and we should, but the idea that all men were created equal is a farce. You get what you get and you have to do the best with it you can, and help people when you can, how you can. I am sick of Utopian idealists who are putting the cart before the horse. We as humanity must change things, and we can, through science and morals. But it is not enough to say it, identify the problems and solutions, we all must do it, and do it like an involuntary muscle contraction, without direct thought, it just gets done.

best answer in the whole thread. Much props.

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Hi, no-lie fans !

I can't answer the question.
But, to help us resist to the lies, I have seen/read this:
"The best freedom is freedom of desire".

Think about it. . .all the lies on TV, commercials, newspaper telling
us: we NEED this end we NEED that !!!

When we will stop to desire useless and insignificant stuff,
THAT will make us free, and free of the greatest lie$ !!

Blue skies.

Nature is not only the spring rain that you want us all to hold hands and dance in, it is also the lion that sinks it's teeth in to the throat of a young gazelle.You need to get honest with yourself. That's just the way I see it.

On our planet carnivores might exist, but given the size of the universe and our own chances we are here it is not unlikely carnivoric life might just be considered something as evolution gone wrong and other advanced civilizations consist of herbivores.

Some animal at some time started eating other animals, this allowed us to experience this world like you described because of the extra energy and because it took less time compared to growing and harvesting food (which the prey does matter of fact) but maybe it was not meant to be that way in the first place, just a choice by some animal for some reason which affects us all to this day.

Not so much a lie unless there is the belief this is all how it is supposed to be and therefor truth, which we all assume I guess so not to feel bad or lose taste for meat most can't help themselves with, myself included. But if there was an alien invasion tomorrow which kindly explains us how we are all defective because we developed by eating meat and need to be exterminated I wouldn't be surprised or might not even resist.

Originally posted by Dragonfly79

Nature is not only the spring rain that you want us all to hold hands and dance in, it is also the lion that sinks it's teeth in to the throat of a young gazelle.You need to get honest with yourself. That's just the way I see it.

On our planet carnivores might exist, but given the size of the universe and our own chances we are here it is not unlikely carnivoric life might just be considered something as evolution gone wrong and other advanced civilizations consist of herbivores.

Some animal at some time started eating other animals, this allowed us to experience this world like you described because of the extra energy and because it took less time compared to growing and harvesting food (which the prey does matter of fact) but maybe it was not meant to be that way in the first place, just a choice by some animal for some reason which affects us all to this day.

Not so much a lie unless there is the belief this is all how it is supposed to be and therefor truth, which we all assume I guess so not to feel bad or lose taste for meat most can't help themselves with, myself included. But if there was an alien invasion tomorrow which kindly explains us how we are all defective because we developed by eating meat and need to be exterminated I wouldn't be surprised or might not even resist.

I dont think the eating of meat is "evolution gone wrong". Evolution is as evolution does. Its like technology, adaptation to the environment, its a biological arms race for survival. Food from animals is high in nutrients, and probably evolved as a means for survival. A bit of scavenging during droughts, led to a taste for blood which led to predators. The food chain reaches from bacteria up to us and back to bacteria again, from death springs life.
The cycle is complete.

The biggest lie would have to be that i believe anyone who wants me to believe them. From my perspective i could not be sure about anything unless it was my decision to accept it, so a lie is everything that i haven't decided on as my truth. I know this probably doesn't make sense to a lot of people but given the nature of how i have personally experienced reality how can there be any specific truth in what can best be described as a manufactured dream.

biggest LIE told to humanity... EASY


That Jesus was the Son-of-God (his Father)... but at the same time 'the' Creator of all the heavens & the Earth
AND will return to Earth as the 2nd coming of himself (which is also the Father who Knows the hour-of-his-return')''


'the 2nd & 3rd lies are assoiciated with the religions of the middle east and the great salt lake

The greatest lie ever told is that the world we live in is the only truth.

The thing that came to mind immediately after reading your title was "War"
If they cannot convince us they draft us anyways.

One big pot of "-------------" fill in the blank as you like.
regards, Iwinder

There are so many I don't really think you can just say the "greatest".

Though, I would read ProtoplasmicTraveler's thread called the "All Roads Lead to Rome."

Talk about an eye opener. And he was banned, but he has his own site now nonetheless.

I would say one of the biggest ones, (because it's worked for so long) is that humans are nothing more then dopamine addicts who seek the approval of others.

I think we like to think were intelligent, but were honestly not. Were just primates with a large brain seeking the approval of others hooked on dopamine, which ties into ego and self esteem.

The more you know!

dopamineproject.org...

Greatest lie ever told to humanity? Religion.

Religion is a concept created by man to be used as a tool to control man through fear. There is no "God" in the sense religion wants you to believe.