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Originally posted by intrptr
The second is a million "Cowboy and Indian" movies and TV shows that fed us biased information when we were growing up in the 60's in America.
I mean growing up in white, middle class America. Children's toys were repeating rifles, six guns, and knives. We emulated John Wayne and slew the "savages". Nobody wanted to be the Indians and the cowboys always won.
Since we didn't talk about the Natives much in school and all the history lessons that were imparted were one sided, it was easy to let that information vacuum be filled with John Wayne slaughtering the "Heathens" or "Red skins" or "cut throats".
Originally posted by ParanoidAmerican
reply to post by frazzle
No you are right the native population at that time likely drove out the first settlers and history repeated itself. Now if you want to talk about the practices used for taking over a nation look to Spain for brutality. We were civil compared to them. I don't claim that what white Europeans did was right in anyway, but we know now that there were others here before Columbus, before the Vikings, and before our Native populace.
The English settlers however brought with them the idea of individual property ownership and exclusive control of the resources therein.
Originally posted by HelenConway
I realise that the more I know through study - the truth is the more I come to realise that I know nothing.
All the more reason to remember the real history.
Originally posted by ParanoidAmerican
reply to post by frazzle
No no that is not it...all I am saying is that this is how human history has been (and likely will stay somewhat), we only more recently have recognized displacement of native population as terrible act it is act as a society.
In my State we have Native American Day not Columbus Day..
Mandan I have not studied them much as we have Sioux here mainly I would have to research more about them...I would not find it hard to believe though as we have good evidence the Vikings made it to Minn..
edit on 29-5-2013 by ParanoidAmerican because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ShadellacZumbrum
I hate to be a stickler but. .. . . you mentioned
"Thanksgiving-------- Has nothing to do with Natives/ it is a celebration of harvest".
Correct me if I am wrong but American History in schools teach that the first thanksgiving was basically a union of Pilgrims and Natives Americans to gather and give thanks. Now I might agree as to the Celebration of Harvest, however, when I think of Thanksgiving, I always think of the Native Americans coming together with the Pilgrims for Damn Good Feast that can't be beat.
Originally posted by HelenConway
reply to post by frazzle
Well they probably crossed across from the Bering Straits - they walked.
I doubt the long boats would have made it - they just about managed to navigate the north sea,
If they survived they probably assimilated or went the same way as the Roanoke Colonists.
The DNA of many american Indian tribes is actually from what is modern day called Russia / Siberia [ I know this is controversial to some].edit on 29-5-2013 by HelenConway because: (no reason given)edit on 29-5-2013 by HelenConway because: (no reason given)