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Originally posted by olaru12
Try driving while black in an affluent white neighborhood.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
Originally posted by olaru12
Try driving while black in an affluent white neighborhood.
Try driving at night while white in East Cleveland. I guarentee the cops will pull you over.
Why? They're profiling. They think that you are there to buy illegal stuff. Even if you live there, it takes a couple of times before they recognize you.
I also find that East Cleveland to be the most racist part of Cleveland (Cuyahoga County).
I've also said it here before, Cleveland is a Democratic stronghold, and yet I hear the "N" word all the time from all races.
What I found funny were a couple of guys I worked with who always disparaged the black race, but yet voted for Obama...because he's a Democrat.
Originally posted by ButterCookie
Racism exist, I am aware of that. My main argument was that liberals tend to perpetuate racism in general.
Originally posted by Duckling
I read nothing else but the OP, but to me it sounds like racism on her part against the 'whites'. People forget that when they're blaming others groups of racism they're doing it themselves too! Always keep an open mind and NEVER put people in groups, that's how it always starts. People are individuals, keep it that way.
Originally posted by LizardSlicks
reply to post by ButterCookie
Be proud of who you are and love yourself. Don't lose a friend because you want to make excuses and rationalize the treatment of blacks by whites for the last 200 years. I do not believe that people today deserve the blame for the atrocities committed yesterday, but I also do not think that history should be revised in some twist that clears whites of almost all blame and wrongdoing and finds even the slaves themselves more at blame for being sold and treated worse than animals.
So do you think blacks should be apologizing to whites for asking for rights and equality in this country when they were sold here fair and square by "their own black kings"?
Please re-read my OP.
I never stated that I was racist nor do I feel anyone should be apologizing for the history of their ancestors.
The main intent of the thread was my rant describing a conversation I had with a friend who holds these racist beliefs.
I am not sure which thread you are referring to if you thought I made any racist comment.
You will never be white, no matter how strongly you misidentify with black people and want to strip them of their right to historical justice. Your opening post seemed desperate and the whole creation of the thread seemed like it was trying to score points or sloppily gain some sort of acceptance among a specific population.
Those real heavy hitting bullet points of wit that you used to extinguish your friends passion were equal to or less than in terms of value as the "ignorance your friend spewed". They were all smartass retorts. That can't really be you or the best you.
This thread is pure pointless garbage. Shut it down.
Originally posted by LastStarfighter
You have posted a very good conversation and truly reflects the opinions that I have noticed as well.
You can also tell your follower friend that it wasn't just Africans who were enslaved by whites.
Its only in the past 500-600 years or so that slavery was based on race and African was seen as inferior and to be used as a slave which of course I am not in agreement with.
In fact in Roman times Europeans made their fellow Europeans slaves quite frequently. This kind of information will upset your follower friend and make her feel bad and not entitled and not like a victim which would require her to take responsibility
Further, she should go after the offspring of the Africans that sold her ancestors to the whites if she really wants to be real..
Thats the only thing I have to add to your excellent post.
Thanks
Originally posted by ButterCookie
My main intent was to uncover any reasoning why most liberal ideology is similar to my friend's.
Originally posted by ButterCookie
My main intent was to uncover any reasoning why most liberal ideology is similar to my friend's.
Nothing in the world is more dangerous than sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity. Martin Luther King, Jr.
Originally posted by ButterCookie
It started with a brief discussion of the history of the political parties; I gave her the brief history of the racist, pro-slavery party the Democrats. This true history seemed to disturb her, and o the conversation switched over to racism itself.
I told her that like most liberals, everything that comes out of their mouth is race-baited.
Of course, she was not able to answer intelligently, so I began making this thread.
Originally posted by ButterCookie
Racism exist, I am aware of that. My main argument was that liberals tend to perpetuate racism in general.
Originally posted by Maxatoria
A lot of the slaves were sold to the slavers by their own people so it was blacks selling blacks for profit such as guns and drink as before when various groups went to war they sold each others captives back to each other and the whiteman turned up and offered a better price
Originally posted by ButterCookie
Originally posted by Nevertheless
Originally posted by ButterCookie
The reason why liberalism is even mentioned in the thread/ conversation, is because it is that same liberalism that was pro-slavery and perpetuates the sense of black victim hood, which is unhealthy for the entire world.
How is slavery liberalism?
Please try to understand what you are talking about.
Easily.
Slavery is in institution that goes against the pursuit of liberty- which is a liberal interpretation of the constitution.