Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of Israel

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


No you are not alone, depending on your perspective, there is a process such as Time that must entail either an offense or a defence now, with the mass effect, and bombardment of information that has come to light.

We are in an Information war. Less blood shed this way.

The "news" has seemed rather slow and all over the place lately like the ones "reporting" it are in scramble mode.

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I don't study the protocols of zion for exactly the same reason that I don't read the Hitler Diaries.

Originally posted by Gary29
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I don't study the protocols of zion for exactly the same reason that I don't read the Hitler Diaries.

and that is what?

sorry for not getting your sense of humor and having to ask.

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Been looking at all the posts in response to this...I don't want to do anything other than point out what is obvious to me. The big bang theory is, scientifically speaking, self defeating. Created supposedly by scientific methods, it makes no sense. The conservation of energy thingie, see? Energy or matter can not be created, or destroyed, only converted into the other. So, if nothing existed before, how can some big bang create all this matter or energy? Before this big bang thingie, someone might argue that it was all energy that was existed. Then it was converted to the other. I am guessing what some scientists might argue. So what caused this energy to transform into matter? There was nothing existing before. Nothing to be the cause of nothing. Scientifically speaking, there had to be something to cause this to happen. Yet, scientists deny that something caused it. It seems that scientists would say that there has to be something that is not energy or matter to affect this energy, causing it to turn to matter. If they even accept that there was energy existing all by itself without matter, before energy transformed into matter. So, either the scientists deny energy existed to be transformed into matter before there was this big bang, or they just say it came from purely nothing. But what about the conservation of energy? Matter cannot be destroyed or created, it just changes? So what do they call this? Can they not even use algebra and say X=causation and work from there? But they deny causation even exists. So much for my rant about scientists.

Now as for the Jews and their treatment of the Palestinians. Seems wrong

Now as for Muslims, I have seen them Muslims throwing milk crates at Christians, cussing Christians, calling them pussies, etc. Saw the videos about that up in Michigan, I think. Now, if I lived there, I would be wanting to nuke those Muslims. If I was a Jew and had to put up with that , I think I would rather not. Now the Christ Jesus, set a good example with his good samaritan treatment . But now the samiritan may have been a Palestinian, but he wasn't being nice to a Muslim, they didn't exist in the days of Jesus. I have to think about that really hard. WWJD?

I have had a Margarita, and it's just messing with me reading all the posts . Loose enough to comment, too tired to think of solutions. One handed armchair politician. Make that no hands, I am lighting up a tobacco. And I was surprised so many people volunteered to go to Mars.....

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How could I not give a star to one who has a similar take on Zionism as I. Your reference to depopulation is spot on and will be more widespread than "culling" the Muslims. The rest of us will be culled through the spread of disease caused by the copious use of a wide array of toxic chemicals which are well on their way to poisoning our waters, soil, and air. Of course, if that doesn't "work" fast enough, I'm sure the creators of this wild idea of reducing population numbers will have some ready back-up methods to get them to "goal."

With age I'm becoming increasingly more cynical. Coupled with the inability to come up with any viable solutions merely aggravates my cynicism and deadens the soul. Yep, I'm a veritable scream at a party.

Originally posted by dontreally
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Steven Hawking is the most intelligent person on the planet? Who says?

This is the same who considers himself an authority on whether God exists or not. It's as if when he speaks, the truth has been told.

One wonders whether we treat this man with such godly reverence because he's locked in his body and bound to a wheel chair.

Frankly, he might be the most egotistical person alive.

In any case, this is consistent with his other political interests. His claims about Gods non existence is 100% political in nature, reflecting his solidarity with the new atheists.

When I read your post, I can help but think you may have inadvertently confused Stephen Hawking (not Steven BTW) the theoretical physicist, and Richard Dawkins, the renowned atheist. I guess the mistake could be forgivable, their last names sound familiar, and the letters of their first names are right beside each other in the alphabet.

While Hawking has spoken out about atheism, he is known for his scientific work, meanwhile, Dawkins is much more known for his almost militant Atheism.

Atheist Stephen Hawking and Church of Scotland both determined to demonize Israel

By Rabbi Abraham Cooper Published May 09, 2013 FoxNews.com
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Opening paragraph:

I was looking forward to hearing the iconic Stephen Hawking, the internationally renowned English theoretical physicist as he helped celebrate Shimon Peres’ 90th birthday at next month’s annual “Facing Tomorrow” Presidential Conference in Jerusalem.
The conference gathers the world’s top leaders and intellectuals for discussions on everything from science and technology to religion and politics. Past attendees have included former U.S. Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, Google founder Sergei Brin, former Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev and Wikipedia founder Jimmy Wales.
And what a great choice it was. To hear from a man who has continued to make his indelible mark on the world despite suffering from a debilitating form of the neuro-degenerative disease ALS (Lou Gehrig’s disease) that has left him completely paralyzed.
It's interesting that Hawking, who is a principled atheist, has some kindred souls among theologians of the Church of Scotland.
Indeed, some of the technologies that have served as Hawking’s lifeline to the world were developed by INTEL, a company with deep roots in Israel.

But it won’t happen.
After agreeing to deliver the coveted keynote in Jerusalem, the highly unorthodox Hawking, who has visited Israel four times, has caved to the prevailing virulent anti-Israel orthodoxy among the United Kingdom’s elite and announced he’ll boycott because of Palestinian protests.
It's interesting that Hawking, who is a principled atheist, has some kindred souls among theologians of the Church of Scotland.

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Stephen Hawking is a militant atheist nonetheless. You might find this video interesting with respect to their mutual atheism and general antagonism towards the notion of God in the universe.

Richard Dawkins meets Stephen Hawking

Source - Church of militant atheism

I read pg 1 of this thread, then decided I wouldnt read more, because though Im pretty sure there's intelligent, respectful discussion in between pgs 2-11, the rude, ugly, & childish posturing in the 1st page ruined my interest. Sorry to the O.P. that the thread wasnt given it's due (unless the OP is 1 of the rude & egotistical-seeming posters on pg 1.
This is an important topic, in general (Israel/Palestine). I'd hoped to learn something when I clicked on the thread's title.

Originally posted by kkrattigerI read pg 1 of this thread, then decided I wouldnt read more, because though Im pretty sure there's intelligent, respectful discussion in between pgs 2-11, the rude, ugly, & childish posturing in the 1st page ruined my interest. Sorry to the O.P. that the thread wasnt given it's due (unless the OP is 1 of the rude & egotistical-seeming posters on pg 1.
This is an important topic, in general (Israel/Palestine). I'd hoped to learn something when I clicked on the thread's title.

kkrattigerI .............Wouldn't it be more effective to contribute rather than to whine?
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Back on topic............Stephen Hawking: Furore deepens over Israel boycott
• Harriet Sherwood and Matthew Kalman in Israel, and Sam Jones • The Guardian, Wednesday 8 May 2013

Political motive revealed after Cambridge University first claimed scientist's non-attendance was on medical grounds.

The celebrated physicist Stephen Hawking became embroiled in a deepening furore today over his decision to boycott a prestigious conference in Israel in protest over the state's occupation of Palestine.
Hawking, a world-renowned scientist and bestselling author who has had motor neurone disease for 50 years, cancelled his appearance at the high-profile Presidential Conference, which is personally sponsored by Israel's president, Shimon Peres, after a barrage of appeals from Palestinian academics.
The move, denounced by prominent Israelis and welcomed by pro-Palestinian campaigners, entangled Cambridge University – Hawking's academic base since 1975 – which initially claimed the scientist's withdrawal was on medical grounds, before conceding a political motivation.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Gary29
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I don't study the protocols of zion for exactly the same reason that I don't read the Hitler Diaries.

and that is what?

sorry for not getting your sense of humor and having to ask.

Because they are both forgeries. As I'm sure you're aware.

don't study the protocols of zion for exactly the same reason that I don't read the Hitler Diaries.

Originally posted by Gary29 Because they are both forgeries. As I'm sure you're aware.

"P of Z" are as real as it gets.............proven by the historical record itself.

Originally posted by POXUSA

don't study the protocols of zion for exactly the same reason that I don't read the Hitler Diaries.

Originally posted by Gary29 Because they are both forgeries. As I'm sure you're aware.

"P of Z" are as real as it gets.............proven by the historical record itself.

edit on 10-5-2013 by POXUSA because: (no reason given)

I suppose if you're the kind of person who believes the evil Zionists (Jews) secretly run the world, then you are the kind of person who believes the protocols of zion are real.

Nazis had no brain , they worshipped Hitler.

I would rather be in a ghetto in palestine than gassed to death along with my family.

Stephen Hawking joins academic boycott of Israel

Well, anyone with eyes can see that he is not well. Get better soon Stephen and then change your mind and root for the only functioning free democracy in the Mideast!

Originally posted by Gary29

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by Gary29
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I don't study the protocols of zion for exactly the same reason that I don't read the Hitler Diaries.

and that is what?

sorry for not getting your sense of humor and having to ask.

Because they are both forgeries. As I'm sure you're aware.

A party that is guilty normally does not admit it unless they are really stupid, but then if they were that stupid they would not have the brains to plan and carry out such wideplanned conspiracies. There is also something called the secret covenant which is just as evil if not more so than the protocols of the learned elders of zion.

Not everything is a fake/forgery and this is a conspiracy site which theoretically encourages "speculation".

At least you didn't play the antisemitic card this time since I practically admitted I would have no problem with jews living in israel or palestine provided they treated the muslims and christians with the respect they deserve.

Hitler knew there was a conspiracy but I don't think he realised the depth of it, thus going after jews as a whole rather than the zionists.

Originally posted by FreedomEntered
Nazis had no brain , they worshipped Hitler.

I would rather be in a ghetto in palestine than gassed to death along with my family.

National Socialism replaced monarchies in europe and was rather popular for its time. Not all national socialist nations were imperialist orientated. Spain, Portugal, Romania, Turkey, and others more or less followed the general principles of Italy and Germany but they did not invade anyone. Switzerland and Austria too offered silent support for national socialism, actally Austria got "annexed" rather easily.

Further I highly and I mean HIGHLY DOUBT there were 6 million jews gassed to death and that there were widespread extermination camps. I think this was(and still is) allied propaganda to damage national socialism as much as possible, so that international capitalism(which was what we have today) can take root. Maybe a few work camps became extermination camps, but the vast majority of disliked jews(because hitler confused zionists hiding under judaism) simply died from starvation and being overworked. They were loosing the war effort and did not wish to "waste" supplies on them.

Mainstream history has become very twisted it seems!

If you like reading known conspiracy forgeries I highly recommend "Silent Weapons for Quiet Wars", much more believable in my opinion - but still fake.

The fact that anyone can claim with the straight face that the Principles of the Elders of Zion is a legitimate document boggles the mind, there's tons of proof that it's not legitimate and none that there is...

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like the world was forcibly considered flat?

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Well that's not entirely true either - Eratosthenes of Cyrene not only postulated that the world was round but worked out it's approximate size in 240BC!

Of course that doesn't fit the narrative of history so lots of people claim Christopher Columbus worked it out 1732 years later...