Everything Is Rigged: Biggest Scandal Yet

So in reality what this is really saying.....
(This is going to be a shocker to some, most will deny, but all will try to justify)


The cold hard truth is that if you(yes you) have a mortgage car payment, credit card, and bank account, then you pretty much fed the monster. Big banks, central and corporate banks own us all.

The American dream bankrupted us(here in the states).


Brainwash the masses into accepting massive debt in "low monthly payments ".

I don't even have a mortgage or car payment.( i realize my lifestyle contributes though)

Enjoy it people.

Have a nice day all.

Its all our fault.

reply to post by snaz31


I don't see how doing that would be any less honest than trading 14 Goobits for 7 Quatloos, but I would still like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Originally posted by CirqueDeTruth

Why can't a group of people hire lawyers - follow the money - and file class action suits against these "elite" for everyone in the country?

. It seems like it should be able to work. Can't American's use the law system to address the federal reserve? To address these CEO 1 % er's of the country? Can't they even use the law system to address their government? If someone could come along and help me sort it out, I'd be appreciative.

Cirque

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Two of America's top law-enforcement officials, Attorney General Eric Holder and former Justice Department Criminal Division chief Lanny Breuer, confessed that it's dangerous to prosecute offending banks because they are simply too big. Making arrests, they say, might lead to "collateral consequences" in the economy.

These 1 percent CEO's own the system if you try to prosecute them there will be "collateral consequences" in the economy. Trying to use the system that they own against wont result in anything. We as a people need to take action because are law system has failed us.

These guys are criminals,
They own the police,

We must take action or we will just fall further into this hell hole

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Well no, of course not, but what are you doing with a mortgage? You lent money from the crooks that you hate and want to destroy? Kinda doesn't make sense... Sell up and rent until you can afford to buy outright... Would be the more moral thing to do...

Though it is a tough thingh to deal with but deal with it we must...

Grow your own food and btw in certain places you can use bitcoin to buy food and like I said it is becoming more and more widely accepted... It is still just a baby... Imagine if everyone refused to use fed money? And would only use bitcoin? What do you think the shops would do? Buy everything you can buy in bitcoin and talk to your local shops about accepting it...

No-one said this would be easy...

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It's far from being the little guy's fault.
The banks should have to work with you when you're out of work, but they won't budge on the mortgage. Oops! You missed a payment and if you try to send us any money now, we'll just send it back to you and foreclose. They've done a lot of shady dealings and they still are doing shady dealings. Everyone deserves to have a roof over their head. The banks should be forced to help people in the economy we're in instead of being allowed to screw over people to the point of making the person commit suicide.
Iceland put their bankers in jail and wiped out fraudulent debt. The US could, too.
Spain stopped foreclosing on people because so many people were committing suicide. The US could do this, too, but I think they feed off of causing people pain and misery.

Originally posted by 0zzymand0s
reply to post by snaz31

 

I don't see how doing that would be any less honest than trading 14 Goobits for 7 Quatloos, but I would still like to subscribe to your newsletter.

Sorry you have lost me here lol... Are you referring to using bitcoin? I agree, you could use anything you like as long as you can convince people it has value and to accept it as payment... And considered yourself signed up! lol

Edit: Here, check this out...

www.guardian.co.uk...

This is how we make a real change! Well it is a start anyway, obviously there is much more to deal with but 1 step at a time.

Originally posted by snaz31
reply to post by Afterthought

 

Yes I like your ideas mate as I have said but not paying your tax is a moral obligation more than anything else... I have also thought if you want to speed up the process we could all go and claim benefits at the same time! lol

I do see what you're saying and I agree, but not paying taxes would be the next step. If you get your debt wiped out because it's deemed fraudulent, then the taxes would follow suit. Once they see that everyone can band together and stop paying on debt, then they see everyone decides to band together to stop paying taxes, we suddenly have leverage and they will start to crumble for sure.
I believe that ALL states should not have taxes on necessities. In PA, you don't have to pay tax on clothes or food. In Florida, you don't have to pay tax on food, but it used to be that one week out of the year, you could buy clothes tax free, then they changed this to only one weekend. I wouldn't doubt if this year they didn't offer the tax holiday at all.

and as to everything is rigged, you know all the movement in gold - want to know who was involved in all of that? One company - JP Morgan. JPMorgan Accounts For 99.3% Of The COMEX Gold Sales In The Last Three Months

www.zerohedge.com...

Originally posted by Afterthought

Originally posted by snaz31
reply to post by Afterthought

 

Yes I like your ideas mate as I have said but not paying your tax is a moral obligation more than anything else... I have also thought if you want to speed up the process we could all go and claim benefits at the same time! lol

I do see what you're saying and I agree, but not paying taxes would be the next step. If you get your debt wiped out because it's deemed fraudulent, then the taxes would follow suit. Once they see that everyone can band together and stop paying on debt, then they see everyone decides to band together to stop paying taxes, we suddenly have leverage and they will start to crumble for sure.
I believe that ALL states should not have taxes on necessities. In PA, you don't have to pay tax on clothes or food. In Florida, you don't have to pay tax on food, but it used to be that one week out of the year, you could buy clothes tax free, then they changed this to only one weekend. I wouldn't doubt if this year they didn't offer the tax holiday at all.

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Yeah this is the trouble mate and if we did like you say (i guess your aim is to pressure gov and not remove it altogether) all that would happen is they would fold... for a time and then creep it back in bit by bit just as you see happening now.

Small gov with lots of restrictions has been tried... America is a big test for that, you had a small gov with very little tax and lots of freedoms and you had papperwork detailing all the rights you had etc... But what happened? They just turn up the heat ever so slightly over generations and then you wake up in this mess all over again...

Gov needs to be abolished completely else absolutely nothing will change in the long run.

reply to post by snaz31


Abolishing government completely is never going to happen. There must be oversight. We just need to put responsible people in these positions who are honest and actually do want what's best for the people and not themselves and the good ol' boys club.
How do we put a serious dent in this club? Make fraternities illegal. ALL fraternities. In fact, I'd be satisfied if ALL groups were abolished that depended upon race or gender for its memberships. Frats are rife with sociopaths and psychopaths. Ending these stupid clubs would make it harder for them to hire each other, too, which is how the corruption is compounded. "Oh! I see you're Pi Kappa Delta, too! That was my alma mater." Or whatever they say to each other. Then, this person gets hired over someone who would be better for the job.
But, I digress. I'm not anti-government, but I would like to see a smaller government where republicans and democrats are a thing of the past. Where people vote on values, ethics, and solid creative ideas that involve common sense solutions.

reply to post by Afterthought

Abolishing government completely is never going to happen.

Says who?

There must be oversight.

Ha, you had all the check and balances you could ever want, you have congress and sheriffs and all sorts to keep the gov from growing and goin rouge... How did that turn out?

We just need to put responsible people in these positions who are honest and actually do want what's best for the people and not themselves and the good pl' boys club.

This is what will never happen... If you are interested I can find a ted talk which featured the guy the started the Philadelphia experiment... He goes in depth about the psychology of it all... But the bottom line is give people anonymity or immunity, give them a uniform and 90% of people will kill... There were a couple more factors... But the point is these are normal people! And under the right conditions they can be made evil, this just backs up the old saying... Power corrupts etc...

How do we put a serious dent in this club? Make fraternities illegal. ALL fraternities.

Oh yeah great lets have the gov regulating itself... Dude I'm sorry but non of it works, they will still do whatever they want... Because you are giving them all the guns and the power to use them...

But, I digress. I'm not anti-government, but I would like to see a smaller government where republicans and democrats are a thing of the past. Where people vote on values, ethics, and solid creative ideas that involve common sense solutions.

How can you not be anti government? They murder and torture and suppress! And steal and lie and cheat... The small gov has been done and it failed miserably!

But it is okay, there is a cure and the difference between a minarchist and an anarchist is only 6 months! lol

I would seriously love to continue this more but it is 4 am and I must sleep... Great chatting anyway...

Down with the murdering lying stealing gov!

Originally posted by Afterthought

Originally posted by snaz31
reply to post by Afterthought

 

Yes I like your ideas mate as I have said but not paying your tax is a moral obligation more than anything else... I have also thought if you want to speed up the process we could all go and claim benefits at the same time! lol

I do see what you're saying and I agree, but not paying taxes would be the next step. If you get your debt wiped out because it's deemed fraudulent, then the taxes would follow suit. Once they see that everyone can band together and stop paying on debt, then they see everyone decides to band together to stop paying taxes, we suddenly have leverage and they will start to crumble for sure.
I believe that ALL states should not have taxes on necessities. In PA, you don't have to pay tax on clothes or food. In Florida, you don't have to pay tax on food, but it used to be that one week out of the year, you could buy clothes tax free, then they changed this to only one weekend. I wouldn't doubt if this year they didn't offer the tax holiday at all.

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I do agree that we will need to band together In order to fight the crooks that have tooken over are country. If we all did that then they would probably try to in prison a few people to try and make an example out of them and scare the rest back into submission, they would then try and break up the protests with the police/ military like they did with occupy Wall Street. Since there using force on us we would then have to either use force back or we will just land ourselves right back into the situation were in now. So assuming we do the right thing and fight these crooks they would then try to close of areas with blockades and restrict movement so the resistant uses all there supplies up in which case we would need to have another team that has back up supplies and is prepared to fight through the blockades then the government would put us into the 800 FEMA camps that they have prepared for just this type of scenario .

But as george washington said give me liberty or give me death
I'd rather fight for what's right then to just let there evil keep happening

reply to post by Deceasedfantasy

But as george washington said give me liberty or give me death
I'd rather fight for what's right then to just let there evil keep happening

Bingo, baby!

reply to post by Deceasedfantasy


Okay one more then I must sleep...

We do not need violence... We do not need to protest/beg... We only need to say NO, I will not give you a penny! If that means striking from your current job, do it... We need to take the moral high ground... We need to accept we could be put in prison and still continue... They can not lock up everyone! And even if they did then refuse to do anything! What can they do? Kill us all? What would they control then? lol

reply to post by snaz31

Things are bigger than just the US.
For instance, consider North Korea. According to your scenario, which Sheriff would you tap to negotiate with them?
What's coming is bigger than the US. These people have been moving towards a global government. Please start thinking along these lines. If we're able to show the rest of the world that we can stand up to our government a little at a time, others will start to gain the confidence to do this, too.
Please remember that I stated only responsible people would be put in positions of power. Those who are corrupt and causing pain such as the tortures you keep mentioning will be given death sentences.
You aren't telling me anything I'm not already aware of. One of the worst issues right now with the GLOBAL elite is the child sex abuse rings. I've participated in several of these threads. Corrupt people are helping their buddies to get away with all sort of sick stuff.
We need to start thinking globally. What's happening is bigger than the US and the atrocities that happen in just this country alone.

Originally posted by Afterthought
reply to post by Deceasedfantasy

 

But as george washington said give me liberty or give me death
I'd rather fight for what's right then to just let there evil keep happening

Bingo, baby!

Yeah if we don't do something really soon it will actually be to late like we need to come together now or these evil greedy ceos will have completely taken over,

This message is for all who read it

either your on the righteous side that wants peace and equality and freedom, or your on the brainwashed side that wants injustice in poverty and enslavement of the entire human race.

We will need to fight this war ourselves there won't be anyone that will do the hard work for us
You can't use a lawsuit or the police against a corrupt government because they own the courts and the police

So if your really willing to fight and take a stand against what is wrong
Then the time is now.

And me as a friend if you agree with my views.
And me as a rival if you are on the side of the CEOs

We either fight or continue down this path that leads into further debt and poverty

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Things are bigger than just the US. For instance, consider North Korea. According to your scenario, which Sheriff would you tap to negotiate with them?

I live in england...

Negotiate? He was kicking off because of the sanctions the US imposed... With no gov, no sanctions, no problems...

What's coming is bigger than the US. These people have been moving towards a global government. Please start thinking along these lines. If we're able to show the rest of the world that we can stand up to our government a little at a time, others will start to gain the confidence to do this, too.

Dude, I am well aware of what they want and what they are moving towards, but again no gov's = no world gov's... Lets show the world we can live without a gov and then maybe they will do the same too...

I have already shown you that everything you have asked for has been tried before, but still you want to do it again... What was it that einstein said about insanity?

Please remember that I stated only responsible people would be put in positions of power. Those who are corrupt and causing pain such as the tortures you keep mentioning will be given death sentences.

I have already told you that NORMAL good people given the right circustance will turn evil... There have been many experiments to show this... Mate seriously it doesn't work! Power corrupts, it is as simple as that...

You aren't telling me anything I'm not already aware of. One of the worst issues right now with the GLOBAL elite is the child sex abuse rings. I've participated in several of these threads. Corrupt people are helping their buddies to get away with all sort of sick stuff. We need to start thinking globally. What's happening in bigger than the US and the atrocities that happen in just this country alone.

Again I live in england...

This thread though is about what an american politician has said... Things are the same whereever you go, isn't that strange? Why do you think that is? Hmmmmm

Because it doesn't bloody work! lol Power corrupts!

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Do you live in england by any chance? Have you been going to churches and police stations giving them paperwork etc?

Just a hunch, would be mad if it was you, lol

Originally posted by snaz31
reply to post by Deceasedfantasy

 

Do you live in england by any chance? Have you been going to churches and police stations giving them paperwork etc?

Just a hunch, would be mad if it was you, lol

No I live in America has someone been giving the churches and police stations paper work there ? Won't was on this paper work ?

reply to post by snaz31

Oh, you live in England. I see.
Well, when you guys over throw your corrupt monarchy, then you can tell us how to get rid of the president and the rest of the lot. After all, our fore fathers left your country for a reason and it's STILL being ruled by the same delusional family.
All in all though, I do feel for your country because it's certainly being run by psychotics who are running a dictatorship under the guise of blood relations. Blood is thicker than water, so it certainly would be easier to overthrow the US government than what Brits have to go to battle against.
Best of luck over there.
In the meantime, you should remind the Aussies that your Queen owns much of their land and in order to be free, they need to over throw her first.
Like I said, this is global. At least we agree that they should all be taken out at once, but each one is going to present a unique circumstance.
I still believe in my heart that no one thing can be all bad. Like the video of the two star general presented earlier in this thread, I would certainly want him as part of my small, non-corrupt government. Of course, these men would have to understand that they would have cameras on them all the time so we could monitor what they're doing. I'm truly sick of the government putting up all sorts of cameras to watch us when we should be watching them.