Satanic sex cult that's snaring celebrities

reply to post by Saurus


When dealing with the incredibly ignorant, one mans sex cult is another mans harmless meeting of an esoteric society.

Those who fear what they don't understand will always be this stupid. But they are damn fun to watch.

I have been reading up about this society and it seams that Mr Aleister Crowley a poet an magician pretty much had a vision in Egypt and wrote the book of Law and made the religeon Thelema (Th LEE Ma) which is like big part in the organisation I wouldn't go as far to say that the book of law is a bible since there are a few books I believe.

One thing as struck me as cool is when you leave they give you a letter of congratulations because the principle of this organisation is to be free, also you don't have to pay any money to go up the ranks so its already one up on Scientology.

reply to post by mideast


Only in your very small mind

Originally posted by Saurus

A former FBI agent, Ted Gundersen, who investigated Satanic circles in LA, found that Crowley’s teachings about 'raising demons to do one’s bidding' suggested human sacrifice, preferably of 'an intelligent young boy'.

If you see the name Gunderson, it's time to roll your eyes and turn the page. As far as I'm concerned, he is part of a disinformation sideshow. Whether it's simple greed or something more sinister, he is a purveyor of crap.

Not commenting either way on the OTO...

Well its not like we have ever heard of such things going on. It is the porn captial of the world out younder. Well know are the tales of the converted monasteries up in the hills around San Fran back in the 60's/70's.....sex and the esoteric teaching centers. These had quite a do drop in list for well know and powerful, mostly in the music and entertainment side of the street. Hotel California anyone?

well i dont know so Much about all the rest, but peaches' tat is kinda old skool.
i took the liberty of making up a new design for them.

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wasn't Crowley known for sex magic? sex cult is probably right sacrificing virgins not so much sacrificing the virginity of virgins yeah but good luck finding a virgin in LA that is an adult

reply to post by digital01anarchy


If a Rosicrucian practices sex magic, that does not make the Rosicrucian order a sex cult.

It is possible that the theory of sex magic is taught in theOTO order, but as far as I know, as in most esoteric orders, theory is as far as it goes. From a practical (physical contact) point of view, it is probably a lot tamer than some of the more hands-on orders such as Wicca, but even an order such as Wicca, where physical magick rituals are worked during their ceremonies, has never been considered a sex cult.

Well,what we have here is a case of opinions....till i see a video,or anything significant that say's these people are satanic degenerates,I am going to believe only a tenth of what i here and only half of what i see.

Originally posted by Saurus
reply to post by digital01anarchy

 

If a Rosicrucian practices sex magic, that does not make the Rosicrucian order a sex cult.

It is possible that the theory of sex magic is taught in theOTO order, but as far as I know, as in most esoteric orders, theory is as far as it goes. From a practical (physical contact) point of view, it is probably a lot tamer than some of the more hands-on orders such as Wicca, but even an order such as Wicca, where physical magick rituals are worked during their ceremonies, has never been considered a sex cult.

Ok to be honest I know very little beside research into different aspects of the esoteric, alchemy, angelic language, a little bit of history mostly WW2, some movies which is mostly disregarded, free masons lol the book "the secret" tarot cards ect I recently found information on the keys of Solomon and the lesser keys of Solomon from angelic language research but have yet to look into them funny that really links a lot of esoteric stuff together "maybe I'm wrong" but i heard it was used in wicca which I find interesting because the story of solomon stems from Judaism.

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
If you see the name Gunderson, it's time to roll your eyes and turn the page. As far as I'm concerned, he is part of a disinformation sideshow. Whether it's simple greed or something more sinister, he is a purveyor of crap.

IF what you said were in fact true, disinformation agents such as Barbara Hartwell, and Stew Webb etc. would not be trying to discredit him.

IF what you said were true, Gunderson would not have dedicated his life to exposing crimes such as The Franklin Cover-Up and child sex trafficking rings.

Whether knowingly or not, you have effectively done exactly what you are accusing Gunderson of doing.

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Ordo Templi Orientis (O.T.O.) (Order of the Temple of the East or Order of Oriental Templars) is an international fraternal and religious organization founded at the beginning of the 20th century. English author and occultist Aleister Crowley has become the best-known member of the order.

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Masonic Foundations

Theodor Reuss, in addition to being the head of his revival of the Bavarian Order of Illuminati, was also the Grand Master of the Swedenborgian Rite of Freemasonry in Germany (charter dated July 26, 1901 from W. Wynn Wescott), Special Inspector for the Martinist Order in Germany (charter dated June 24, 1901 from Gérard Encausse), and Magus of the High Council in Germania of the Societas Rosicruciana in Anglia (letter of authorization dated Feb. 24, 1902 from W. Wynn Wescott). With Kellner’s assistance, Reuss applied to English Masonic scholar, John Yarker (1833-1913), to purchase charters to operate three systems of high-grade Freemasonry known as the Antient and Primitive Rite of Memphis of 97°, the Ancient Oriental Rite of Mizraim of 90°, and the Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite of 33° (Cernau Council of New York, 1807).

Reuss received letters-patent as a Sovereign Grand Inspector General 33° of the Cernau Scottish Rite from Yarker dated September 24, 1902. According to a published transcript, Yarker issued on the same date a warrant to Reuss, Franz Hartmann and Henry Klein to operate a Sovereign Sanctuary 33°-95° of the Scottish, Memphis and Mizraim rites. Yarker issued a second charter confirming Reuss’s authority to operate said rites on July 1, 1904; and Reuss published a transcript of an additional confirming charter dated June 24, 1905. Reuss commenced publication of a masonic journal, The Oriflamme, in 1902.
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John Yarker

These rites, along with the Swedenborgian Rite, were adopted as integral elements within the overall scheme of the Order. The Swedenborgian Rite included a version of the Craft degrees, and the Cernau Scottish Rite and the Rites of Memphis and Mizraim provided a selection of the workable “high grades” as nearly complete as had ever existed. Together, they provided a complete system of Masonic initiation at the disposal of the Order. With the incorporation of these rites, the Order was enabled to operate as a completely independent Masonic system. Reuss and Kellner together prepared a brief manifesto for their Order in 1903, which was published the next year in The Oriflamme. Kellner died on June 7, 1905, and Reuss assumed full control of the Order. With the assistance of co-founders Franz Hartmann and Heinrich Klein, Reuss prepared a Constitution for the Order in 1906.

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Carl Kellner

The Spiritual Father of Ordo Templi Orientis was Carl Kellner (Renatus, Sept. 1, 1851 – June 7, 1905), a wealthy Austrian paper chemist. Kellner was a student of Freemasonry, Rosicrucianism and Eastern mysticism, and traveled extensively in Europe, America and Asia Minor. During his travels, he claims to have come into contact with three Adepts (a Sufi, Soliman ben Aifa, and two Hindu Tantrics, Bhima Sena Pratapa of Lahore and Sri Mahatma Agamya Paramahamsa), and an organization called the Hermetic Brotherhood of Light.

It's all about satanic sex

I think it's about much more than that, and might as well be called the Illuminati. If Jay-Z's a part of it lol, why not.

Jay-Z is rumored to be gay. Beyonce is just his "beard" to keep his reputation.

ETA: This sounds like some kind of "Eyes Wide Shut" type of thing. Kubrick didn't last to long after that movie came out. Meethinks he knew something.

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
If you see the name Gunderson, it's time to roll your eyes and turn the page. As far as I'm concerned, he is part of a disinformation sideshow. Whether it's simple greed or something more sinister, he is a purveyor of crap.

IF what you said were in fact true, disinformation agents such as Barbara Hartwell, and Stew Webb etc. would not be trying to discredit him.
IF what you said were true, Gunderson would not have dedicated his life to exposing crimes such as The Franklin Cover-Up and child sex trafficking rings.
Whether knowingly or not, you have effectively done exactly what you are accusing Gunderson of doing.

I beg to disagree. I have taken a long hard look at him specifically and many of his ilk...Stew Webb among them. I think they attack each other to establish levels of legitimacy with those who follow their antics, but are associates in the larger scheme of things. The Franklin Cover-up stinks, but its 'exposure' is suspect as well. You need to dig deeper to get an idea of what's going on. I got two levels down from where you are at. The first led me to question what was being doled out. The next led me to back off...one of the only two circumstances where I have dropped a line of inquiry as I felt it was unsafe to proceed. So - do you take the red pill or the blue pill? It's now your call.

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what magick do u practice?

reply to post by tzdub


Mainly chaos and symbolical magick.

reply to post by network dude

I sure am glad I am not as frightened as you are.

Which one do you doubt ?

1- Freemasons watched people having sex in certain rituals ?

Or

2- Illiuminati is displaying sex for people ?

And please , be straight and honest.

Freemasons are men. I bet some of them have sex as well as watch it.

Don't hide the truth , the Freemasons do watch sex in groups with masks and ...

I wonder how they could convince many people that watching sex of other people is ordinary element of life ?

reply to post by mideast


No matter what you want to believe in your paranoid little mind, I am a freemason. I go to meetings. I am currently master of my lodge. There is no sex in meetings. Implied or otherwise. There is no watching of sex in meetings.
The illuminati has not been around since the late 1700's. If they had sex or watched it, it was a long time ago. Since 60s porn is so pathetic, I would hate to witness 18th century porn. Just no.

We are way to busy with the eating of babies and sacrificing of virgins to ever worry about sex.

Ted Gunderson, defender of Cointelpro as well as justifying the FBI putting Martin Luther King under surveillance, hoping to catch him 'bumping uglies', and to use this as blackmail.

There's also a quote from him saying 'the Government is involved in most terrorist attacks'

Yes, he sounds like a real Prince among men. Paranoid, quite possibly not getting any, which is why he's so concerned with alleged 'Satanic Cults'.

Interestingly he met with Danny Casolaro (writing a book called the Octopus) on the day of his death, and Casolaro was sticking his nose in places where 50 kilos of horsemeat would hold more value than his life. Casolaro was involved with the mother of all conspiracies, hence the name the Octopus.

If I had to choose between Hollywood Sex Cults, or alphabet agency Cointelpro games, I'd take the sex without question. Far more fun!

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by JohnnyCanuck
If you see the name Gunderson, it's time to roll your eyes and turn the page. As far as I'm concerned, he is part of a disinformation sideshow. Whether it's simple greed or something more sinister, he is a purveyor of crap.

IF what you said were in fact true, disinformation agents such as Barbara Hartwell, and Stew Webb etc. would not be trying to discredit him.
IF what you said were true, Gunderson would not have dedicated his life to exposing crimes such as The Franklin Cover-Up and child sex trafficking rings.
Whether knowingly or not, you have effectively done exactly what you are accusing Gunderson of doing.

I beg to disagree. I have taken a long hard look at him specifically and many of his ilk...Stew Webb among them. I think they attack each other to establish levels of legitimacy with those who follow their antics, but are associates in the larger scheme of things. The Franklin Cover-up stinks, but its 'exposure' is suspect as well. You need to dig deeper to get an idea of what's going on. I got two levels down from where you are at. The first led me to question what was being doled out. The next led me to back off...one of the only two circumstances where I have dropped a line of inquiry as I felt it was unsafe to proceed. So - do you take the red pill or the blue pill? It's now your call.

edit on 24-4-2013 by JohnnyCanuck because: ...just because, eh?

I must disagee Ted Gunderson was the former head of the FBI in California and he exposed secrets of all this crap going on in terms of the blood cults and so on and i have studied the man for a long time, i rank him up there with Bill Cooper, the way i see it Guderson was anything but a dis-info agent, while i might not have agreed with everything he said about J. Edgar Hoover, Gunderson was on the right path...