Boston ISN'T a Farce at all...

Originally posted by MKY'___'
This thread has no evidence supporting its claims, no links, no rwferences, not a single picture. So to me this means nothing and youve wasted many peoples time

It's your job to disprove the obvious and known facts, not for everyone else to reiterate the facts and provided evidence in an effort to convince you of what is already commonly known and proven.

There is a narrative already, and the information provided seems to tell a story that the vast majority can follow and corroborate pretty easily. The guys were there, as seen on CCTV and photos taken by several people in the crowd that day. A witness has stated that he looked the older brother in the eye when he placed the bag down and he even identified him to investigators from his hospital bed.

Everything we have seen suits the narrative, and all the "conspiracy theories" (which they really are not, they're just fantastical versions of a story. A real conspiracy has to have some reasoning behind it, some evidence to suggest an alternative story) are unable to provide any narrative that actually makes any sense.

If you have an alternative version of events that lays blame with someone else, PROVE IT. Offer some evidence to support that belief. Don't just ignore the facts we have because you don't trust your own government for one reason or another.

We need some evidence to believe a theory, and that doesn't mean some images with circles on them and accusations of "actors" and "prosthetics", it doesn't mean an Alex Jones video rant, with a lot more speculation. You need to provide real information, real facts, real evidence and some genuine reasoning for why you don't believe the narrative we have.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by NoJoker13

 

So you feel ok with closing down Boston to apprehend one man?

CJ

It's what they've been trained to do.

Problem is, they need to catch him because no one had a motive.

A. He could set up other explosives.
B. He was armed and dangerous.
C. He might be involved with a bigger group.

I agree with the lock down, catch and arrest him immediately until the motive is known. No one knew if it was a one shot domestic attack or international and planned.

Are the police a bit over-kill?

I disagree, 1 officer died in this incident. That goes to show just how dangerous home-grown terrorism is.

reply to post by Rocker2013


I agree with you.

I doubt the entire police department and FBI set up a big false flag just to practice something they have already trained for. I can't believe anyone wants to look through bloody crime scenes looking for evidence.

Alex Jones just hypes everything into a conspiracy because it makes him money.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by NoJoker13

 

So you feel ok with closing down Boston to apprehend one man?

CJ

When bombs are involved yes....

Originally posted by badconduct
reply to post by Rocker2013

 

I agree with you.

I doubt the entire police department and FBI set up a big false flag just to practice something they have already trained for. I can't believe anyone wants to look through bloody crime scenes looking for evidence.

Alex Jones just hypes everything into a conspiracy because it makes him money.

Um, I think a few more people than Alex Jones are saying it, in fact if you look through hundreds of online blogs etc I think tens if not hundreds of thousands of people are discussing it, I believe even a CNN reporter had asked the question at one point, not that I watch that "programming".

If it was a false flag, it certainly was not just for training purposes, though that could have been one of the side benefits, most realize training for such things is quite often different from the reality of such a situation.

reply to post by NoJoker13


I agree with you 100%!! Thanks for posting this!!

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

I know first hand the citizens didn't have a problem, at least the vast majority, to me that's all that matters not the opinions of the backwoods of America. A sacrifice to end the problem, an a half day for the people of Boston wasn't much to give for it.

MEME activation words an the realm of hypnotherapy
You can see it so much clearly when ya read it at the subatomic levels

I know
first hand
citizens
vast majority
matter-s
opinion-s
backwoods of America
sacrifice
people of Boston


Google is going to another frequency(network architecture) in hopes of embedding at deeper levels-

Bring it on...I have never had so much fun on this time around.

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by badconduct
reply to post by Rocker2013

 

I agree with you.

I doubt the entire police department and FBI set up a big false flag just to practice something they have already trained for. I can't believe anyone wants to look through bloody crime scenes looking for evidence.

Alex Jones just hypes everything into a conspiracy because it makes him money.

Um, I think a few more people than Alex Jones are saying it, in fact if you look through hundreds of online blogs etc I think tens if not hundreds of people are discussing it, I believe even a CNN reporter had asked the question at one point, not that I watch that "programming".

If it was a false flag, it certainly was not just for training purposes, though that could have been one of the side benefits, most realize training for such things is quite often different from the reality of such a situation.

False Flag is being looked at BECAUSE of Alex Jones is getting media attention from his comments.

Originally posted by superluminal11

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

I know first hand the citizens didn't have a problem, at least the vast majority, to me that's all that matters not the opinions of the backwoods of America. A sacrifice to end the problem, an a half day for the people of Boston wasn't much to give for it.

MEME activation words an the realm of hypnotherapy
You can see it so much clearly when ya read it at the subatomic levels

I know
first hand
citizens
vast majority
matter-s
opinion-s
backwoods of America
sacrifice
people of Boston


Google is going to another frequency(network architecture) in hopes of embedding at deeper levels-

Bring it on...I have never had so much fun on this time around.

I love it! Meme activation! Yes, I think we have been experiencing a meme activation storm since 911, since the Kennedy assassination, or even since the cartel illegally created the FED reserve. I hope you don't mind if I start using that phrase!

To everyone who thinks it was OK to shut the entire area down, what do you feel about compensation? Should people who were "forced" to stay home be compensated for not being able to go to work? How do you quantify the compensation? The loss of revenue for the mass transit system, the loss of revenue for the street vendor, etc.

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

I know first hand the citizens didn't have a problem, at least the vast majority, to me that's all that matters not the opinions of the backwoods of America. A sacrifice to end the problem, an a half day for the people of Boston wasn't much to give for it.

Maybe the WAY authorities executed the chase and the apprehension should be followed by other states, as I for one am glad they were apprehended...even if they did have to shut everything down. If they would have gotten away, they would still be able to do this again, with all the other terrorist type factions hiding out there. It is now one less, and officials may get some crucial answers to their crucial questions. I believe this is a "damned if you do, damned if you don't" kind of situation.

Originally posted by Djayed

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by badconduct
reply to post by Rocker2013

 

I agree with you.

I doubt the entire police department and FBI set up a big false flag just to practice something they have already trained for. I can't believe anyone wants to look through bloody crime scenes looking for evidence.

Alex Jones just hypes everything into a conspiracy because it makes him money.

Um, I think a few more people than Alex Jones are saying it, in fact if you look through hundreds of online blogs etc I think tens if not hundreds of people are discussing it, I believe even a CNN reporter had asked the question at one point, not that I watch that "programming".

If it was a false flag, it certainly was not just for training purposes, though that could have been one of the side benefits, most realize training for such things is quite often different from the reality of such a situation.

False Flag is being looked at BECAUSE of Alex Jones is getting media attention from his comments.

edit on 4/21/2013 by Djayed because: (no reason given)

I have trouble believing the "TPTB" are so damn cleaver, they can make false flag attack that moves one agenda, which is secretly a way to make people oppose that and push another agenda.

If Boston locks down the city, Alex Jones will say it's purpose was to lock down the city. If the Mayor said "Unlock the city", Alex Jones will assume the Mayor is part of the conspiracy and they're unlocking the city on purpose. Maybe to encourage another attack.

His imagination runs wild.

The Great Conspiracy is getting too sophisticated for it's own good. It's starting to seem like 90% of the US population is conspiring against the remaining 10%.

I can definitely see a few wealthy hands in one of these plots making money off the market movements, or funding the operation. But I doubt the whole Government, FBI and police force are involved.

Originally posted by peter_kandra
To everyone who thinks it was OK to shut the entire area down, what do you feel about compensation? Should people who were "forced" to stay home be compensated for not being able to go to work? How do you quantify the compensation? The loss of revenue for the mass transit system, the loss of revenue for the street vendor, etc.

Compensation?

People want Government hand outs because of a terrorist attack? Sounds like you are pushing an agenda to support socialism.

reply to post by stars15k

Originally posted by stars15k
Too many times the conspiracy believers will jump onto whatever bandwagon that happens to be going in the opposite direction, with no proof, no evidence, and not even a hint of what is really going on.

And these people who think everything-is-a-conspiracy are the reason that it's so easy for the mainstream to dismiss actual conspiracy theorists (or critical thinkers) as crazy, off-the-wall, nut jobs. It's OBVIOUS to most people that "conspiracy believers" (those who believe EVERY conspiracy theory with religious devotion) will believe the opposite of Occam's razor, being - "The most complex and convoluted conclusion is probably the truth".

Boston isn't a farce. It's good to explore the possibilities. I'm all for looking into it. But when we get to a point, it's only logical and reasonable to conclude that it is what it seems to be. Holding onto some wild story people are making up on the fly - out of their imagination and suspicion - is to believe a fantasy. I sometimes wonder about the health of the community whose main goal is to make everything out to be a conspiracy.

Will authorities USE the situation to further their agenda? You'd better believe it. But that doesn't mean any more than there are corrupt people in authority. And we knew that.

reply to post by peter_kandra

Originally posted by peter_kandra
To everyone who thinks it was OK to shut the entire area down, what do you feel about compensation?

Compensation for protecting people and most likely, saving lives? The security's JOB is to protect the people. They did their job. The compensation for the people of Boston is that they are safe and alive! Money has NO place here. Money is worthless compared to the lives of the people.

I can't understand the mindset of some people! Someone saves your life and now you want money, too? I don't get it. :shk:

reply to post by NoJoker13




***APPLAUSE****** for your post, OP.

But there INDEED had been a farce, and it lays with those clowns who called the Boston affair a farce and denigrate the courageous people and officials of Boston that lead to the capture of a dangerous terrorists.

Those spin clowns ARE the farce, for they had denied truths and realities, and rather spin fairy tales and extrapoliate the future upon hatf truths to fool the naive.

They forgot that this is ATS - although a conspiracy themed discussion site, it does not promote lies and falsehoods, but discusses truths and realities, to deny ignorances, such as the kind spinned by the clowns. Not all of us on ATS are naive and sleeping fools.

Originally posted by peter_kandra
To everyone who thinks it was OK to shut the entire area down, what do you feel about compensation? Should people who were "forced" to stay home be compensated for not being able to go to work? How do you quantify the compensation? The loss of revenue for the mass transit system, the loss of revenue for the street vendor, etc.

When you are dealing with explosives you cannot risk a train/bus full of people getting blown up.

FYI-Everything shuts down when they get a ton of snow, so your argument can apply to the snow as well...maybe god needs to reimburse people when snow shuts down a city....this was serious, I do not want my grandma being blown up because the city wasn't smart enough to shut down the bus or the stores.

Believe me people in the affected areas were glad things came to a halt looking for suspects that just bombed a marathon. Explosives are a game changer, if they just had guns and no bombing things wouldn't have shut down (Perfect Example the Cop in California that went on a shooting spree).

Originally posted by Djayed

Originally posted by peter_kandra
To everyone who thinks it was OK to shut the entire area down, what do you feel about compensation? Should people who were "forced" to stay home be compensated for not being able to go to work? How do you quantify the compensation? The loss of revenue for the mass transit system, the loss of revenue for the street vendor, etc.

When you are dealing with explosives you cannot risk a train/bus full of people getting blown up.

FYI-Everything shuts down when they get a ton of snow, so your argument can apply to the snow as well...maybe god needs to reimburse people when snow shuts down a city....this was serious, I do not want my grandma being blown up because the city wasn't smart enough to shut down the bus or the stores.

Believe me people in the affected areas were glad things came to a halt looking for suspects that just bombed a marathon. Explosives are a game changer, if they just had guns and no bombing things wouldn't have shut down (Perfect Example the Cop in California that went on a shooting spree).

You are welcome to sue the kid for $100 bucks.

Or you could, like, save money and store food like every conspiracy website on the 'net has been saying for years. Maybe the world didn't end, but the we did hit the fan.

Originally posted by Djayed

False Flag is being looked at BECAUSE of Alex Jones is getting media attention from his comments.

edit on 4/21/2013 by Djayed because: (no reason given)

No, speaking for myself and many others I have spoken to in person and online, many thought it was a false flag the moment they heard bombs had gone off, and came to this conclusion on their own. This is fact.

Also, people are aware of this video about many of the past false flags:

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


That would be conspiracy theorist or people aware of the term...most of america doesn't know the term and when Alex brought it up he sparked many news sites and blogs to bring it up which in return has caused the search term of false flag to go up.

I was more relating to the every day Joe that doesn't visit these types of sites. Now I am aware of the term but I didn't think that when I first heard.

Again, this is all my opinion.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE
No, speaking for myself and many others I have spoken to in person and online, many thought it was a false flag the moment they heard bombs had gone off, and came to this conclusion on their own.

My point, exactly. Instead of saying, "Let's be open-minded and look into this to discover the facts along the way, THEN come to a conclusion", they instead, say, "I conclude that it's a conspiracy! Let me find (and make up) as much meaningless "evidence" as I can to point in the direction of my conclusion"!

It's like a religious belief... I say don't believe everything you think... You can think it may be a conspiracy, but "believing" in with religious devotion, without proof, will lead you into the realm of fantasy. Forming a conclusion and then looking for evidence to prove it is a fool's game.