Boston ISN'T a Farce at all...

reply to post by WanderingThe3rd


very true, this is not a site where we discuss MAIN STREAM MEDIA news, as it totally defeats the purpose of this site...

reply to post by OutonaLimb




You didn't seriously link that site with a straight face did you? I hope not.

As for the OP, I'm with you. Not everything is a damn conspiracy.

Originally posted by nightstalker78
reply to post by OutonaLimb

 

You didn't seriously link that site with a straight face did you? I hope not.

As for the OP, I'm with you. Not everything is a damn conspiracy.

i know your type stalker, and your game.
go play somewhere and with someone else!

Interesting image Here

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

I know first hand the citizens didn't have a problem, at least the vast majority, to me that's all that matters not the opinions of the backwoods of America. A sacrifice to end the problem, an a half day for the people of Boston wasn't much to give for it.

"Those who would sacrifice their liberty for security deserve neither."

B. Franklin

Ahh yes, quotes from history that are as relevant today as wagon wheels.

Also, completely out of context.

You give up your liberty ALL the time, for the things you have. There is a difference between this and surrendering your freedoms.

Or else you would not have things such as law and those who enforce it. Never mind, it's a quote that fits almost every agenda here, so it's going to get stars.

Originally posted by YapTalk

Originally posted by defcon5
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

An important thing that folks tend to forget is that, “Your rights end when they interfere with another persons rights”. If there is a situation that requires you to cooperate with the police because something is putting others in danger, your right to freedom does not exceed others rights to be free from harm. In essence its not the police who are violating your rights, it's the “bad guy” who is violating them and the police are trying to stop them.

edit on 4/20/2013 by defcon5 because: (no reason given)

Wow Defcon!

My right to freedom exceeds EVERYONE'S Rights!

So do yours, your mom's, your children's, every single member of ATS etc!

Well then I guess I'm free to enter your house and take everything that belongs to you. No one should stop me, or they'd be infringing on my freedoms.

Got it, it's a mad world, but Im glad I'm getting the rules straight.

Where do you live again? And no infringing on my freedoms to know this, now.

Originally posted by kerazeesicko
Leave it to America to milk this for everything it's worth. I wonder does America know that there are other countries with far more deaths and devastation's happening daily?

Go start a thread on it, why does everyone feel the need to go crying about 'other places' when the topic is a 'specific place'?

Start a thread. If no one posts in it, you have your answer.

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Thanks for writing this thread. I think some people get so wrapped up in conspiracy theories, they turn everything they hear into a conspiracy. I think the thought that so many people who knew these young men claimed they were good respectable young men, a lot of people questioned if they could even have been involved in the bombings.

I think having people stay in their houses while they searched for the younger brother was a precaution that avoided a desperate man to take hostages or explode other devices in the area that would have caused more deaths and injuries to the public.

When you look at all the eyewitness accounts just from the time of the car jacking, you can't reach any other conclusion but the fact these guys were involved. However, I do think some radical sect influenced the older brother, helped supply them with guns and bomb making material. We will find out later how far the tentacles reached in this terrorist incident.

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The word is liberty not rights, rights are defined by law your rights start and end were defined in the law and the state as force to impose that law. In a failed state you have no rights, in a corrupt state some pay to have more right than others...

Rights are different from liberty...

I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels that the closure of Boston was not only completely necessary, but the right thing to do.
It helped keep as many people off the streets as possible, not only narrowing down the list of potential suspects that they see, but also preventing many more possible deaths. There is no saying what he could have done when desperate, and cutting out as many people who could be caught in the middle of that isn't a bad thing in the slightest.

It is very frustrating that people call themselves free thinkers, and "have their eyes open" but I think it can get to a point where its the complete opposite, where they see corruption everywhere, and only want to see corruption. Then they yell and scream at anyone who will listen that everyone else is blinded by their faith in the Govt, and are sheep, when their own action is the very same (but on the polar opposite of the scale).

It's ok to speculate and it's ok to wonder, and try to pick it apart, but when people are discounting the injuries of hundreds of people, calling the worst of them actors, I do wonder where on earth the humanity and the empathy has gone, and why suddenly more than ever, people here seem to be nothing but soulless shells, looking only for the next false flag, just so they can say "TOLD YOU SO!"

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by Moshpet

 

SO one minute it wasn't ok to be active in "normal activities" and then the next "it was". Good thing too. They caught the guy when "normal activities" resumed. Almost immediately. It appears they could have caught the guy a lot sooner if "normal activities" weren't curtailed.

CJ

Yeah they could have. Sure. And he could have killed a few more people. But that's ok for you, they died free.

Originally posted by winofiend

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by Moshpet

 

SO one minute it wasn't ok to be active in "normal activities" and then the next "it was". Good thing too. They caught the guy when "normal activities" resumed. Almost immediately. It appears they could have caught the guy a lot sooner if "normal activities" weren't curtailed.

CJ

Yeah they could have. Sure. And he could have killed a few more people. But that's ok for you, they died free.

I would also like to point out, that keeping everyone indoors and then letting them out was potentially what helped in his arrest.

The house of the boat he was found in was previously searched, as well as all the sheds and any hidey holes in the surrounding areas,
Then woman whos house it was knew this, and knew that when she ventured outside, her garden shed was not left open after the search, and so went to investigate. Finding the clothes in her shed, and then the blood trail to her boat, which was also searched beforehand... if they had kept them inside longer, he may have died in the boat, or he may have recuperated and moved on... either way if she hadn't been told it was safe to go back outside, she wouldn't have found exactly what they needed.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by NoJoker13

 

So you feel ok with closing down Boston to apprehend one man?

CJ

I wasn't there, but yes, I think they made the right call on that!

Given that they couldn't be sure if there were others, given that they presumably could have been armed with guns and bombs capable of murdering hundreds.
If they hadn't, and more people had died, you would have been on ATS screaming about the "police state" allowing innocent people to be murdered in the street, and you know you would have been.

reply to post by NoJoker13


Absolutely spot on, if I could give you more stars I would.

Reading some of the fantasies people are having on ATS is pretty sick. I just recently read a post by someone claiming that the young man who lost both his legs is a liar, and that a person coming to his aid was putting fake blood and prosthetic legs all over the ground!

Seriously! These are the kinds of sick minds we have on ATS.

And here, because of the insanity of that post I just mentioned, I'll throw up for you

Originally posted by PlanetXisHERE

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

I know first hand the citizens didn't have a problem, at least the vast majority, to me that's all that matters not the opinions of the backwoods of America. A sacrifice to end the problem, an a half day for the people of Boston wasn't much to give for it.

"Those who would sacrifice their liberty for security deserve neither."

B. Franklin

How have they sacrificed anything? They locked down VOLUNTARILY for a day to catch a maniac. You're deliberately making this out to be more than it was because you have an agenda, like a lot of others on here.

The lock down was voluntary, not enforced. People were free to go about their business and some of them did. his caused a lot of problems for the police too, slowing down the hunt and getting in the way, so good on them for potentially risking more lives with their utter stupidity - I just wish that had been chlorine in the gene pool.

Originally posted by OutonaLimb

Originally posted by NoJoker13
reply to post by caladonea

 

And yes maybe it is just what it seems.

maybe you haven't seen the damning analysis done here that proves the lie/scam/con/hoax.

i am beginning to believe we fully deserve what we get, we appear to be that stupid!

I've just looked through that, and it's more insane than some of the posting here on ATS - and that's saying something!

I have come to the conclusion that many Americans don't understand what the word "evidence" actually means. There are far too many people who believe something someone else tells them without requiring any actual proof of anything, as long as it fits their belief, they'll then take it as "evidence" and even start spreading it as though it's fact.

It's like a fictional narrative is being written by a thousand people, while another thousand are trying to write a documentary.

This thread has no evidence supporting its claims, no links, no rwferences, not a single picture. So to me this means nothing and youve wasted many peoples time

Originally posted by MKY'___'
This thread has no evidence supporting its claims, no links, no rwferences, not a single picture. So to me this means nothing and youve wasted many peoples time

So what you're saying is that it's absolutely ok to bend everything to fit your own agenda, but if you even consider that things are really as they seem, you have to provide evidence to support it?
And I was wondering why I'm starting to hate this place...

Originally posted by letseeit7
I agree with you 100% . It seems no matter what happens people will jump to IT"S A FALSE FLAG ! I guess it's worth a laugh at times .

Happens literally every time. Big or small, every attack will be called a false flag. Suppose its good to analyse, but people tend to jump to conclusions. They just can't comprehend that anybody would actually commit terror, except for their own government. Its a pretty ridiculous idea.

reply to post by NoJoker13


Well, as "right wing" type, I have to agree. I am SO tired of, every time some radical Islamist does anything, the blame being placed anywhere and everywhere BUT with the people that committed the crime. I mean, seriously, sometimes, it is exactly what it looks like; an act of terror by extremists that don't like anyone different from them. Maybe the conspiracy people need to be looking at more closely is the one where people are being convinced there "really aren't any" Islamic terrorists! From everything I have seen and read, they have a lot of evidence, and witnesses, and there seems no doubt they got the right people. As for all the claims of "martial law".....NONSENSE! Recommending to people that they stay inside, because some guys that bombed a marathon are running around and already killed someone else, isn't "martial law"; it's the police issuing a warning for public safety. They weren't arresting people that didn't stay indoors. They simply made people aware of the danger. If they had NOT done so, and those men had killed more than just the one guy, people would be complaining about that.

Besides, if this had been some false flag, they would have blamed the Tea Party, or some "white supremacist" group, or something of the sort. When the suspects are Islamic terrorists, and the actions are just like we have seen for decades, all over the world, I really don't understand this refusal to accept that there are such terrorists.

S&F to the OP, for stating the facts.