Shooting at MIT (And continued events in Boston 18-19 April)

Originally posted by tropic

Originally posted by Doodle19815
Could someone point me to the footage of them setting the backpack down and walking off. They just spoke of it on the news and I was unaware of them actually having footage of them during the "drop off".

Appears theres no footage of Tsarnaev placing anything anywhere, whether ground, garbage, etc

Navy seals had backpacks in case he failed to perform. There are photos of that.

Awesome..I didn't know you were an active Operator for any branch of the military.
Please give me the names and teams of the SEALs that were on site.

Anderson Cooper's got some chick on right now saying Jahar's mother (the one claiming her sons were set up) changed 1-2 years ago. Dressing eccentric to more recently dressing in traditional full coverage Islamic clothing. Says the mother also spoke about 9/11 conspiracy theories.

Seems like the whole family maybe had a pretty big change toward radicalism somewhere between 1 and 2 years ago.

Originally posted by AGWskeptic

Originally posted by JakSparrow
Am I incorrect in stating the fact that the FBI still has refused to release any video of Jahar putting the backpack down?

If this got released can anyone post it? Otherwise, we're simply taking the FBI's word on it. Just like we took their word that they had no involvement of the WTC 1993 attacks.

Have you ever heard of them releasing key evidence during an active manhunt unless it helps them catch the guy?

I haven't.

Give it some time, the events will be clear in time. Right now it's still a very active investigation. Look at the witch hunt on 4chan, they don't want to feed that paranoia with more ammo,

I get your point, I really do. However my concern is they're stating this "evidence" exists, though in nearly the same sentence they're stating WE can't see it. And we're simply supposed to just believe THEM. Well based on fact, not fiction or theory, they've asked us to do this in the past and there is proof beyond a shadow of the doubt that THEY lie.

So I'm merely asking the question, why believe them now? I personally think it's ridiculous that a 19 year old eluded 9000 law enforcement officials (including losing them in a getaway after a shootout) for nearly 24 hours, in a major city that was under complete lock down.

I do agree as well it's an active investigation and very well should be. IMO this one runs much deeper.

reply to post by ButterCookie


hmmm lol: if he wasnt so young....

Originally posted by SMR

Originally posted by AGWskeptic
A functional fully automatic rifle starts at $10,000 and goes up pretty quickly from there.

SNIP

Where in Blue hell did you get that number ?! That number is so off.
Not here to talk guns but it's not hard to take a semi and turn it into an auto for a few bucks.

Which requires training.

Converting a semi auto gun to full is not as easy as you think. I was an armorer for my first 6 years in the Army, I know.

And that 10k figure is correct, I'm looking into buying one myself, paperwork has all been sent in. I'm buying a M-16A1.

So I repeat, they had help, either funding or training, but they had help.

It appears our suspect number 2 was Guess What?! A 9/11 Truther.


"In another tweet, he commented on the 9/11 attacks, writing “Idk why it’s hard for many of you to accept that 9/11 was an inside job, I mean I guess # the facts y’all are some real #patriots #gethip”."

This is quite interesting....zooming in it does look like they both still have backpacks. Hmmm...

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I'm sorry for my inhumanity but if he got brought to my hospital, I couldn't work on him. I might lose my job but I couldn't and wouldn't do it. I'd let him suffer....I know many on you might say "thank goodness your not working in my hospital" and that is absolutely fair! Jurors get excused for having a bias and i also would need to be excused. I'm sure they have video showing him planting or his brother....to accuse and not be ready for trial would be insane. But you never know...

Reading some people on here saying he's in critical condition - probably won't be alive tomorrow. Possible, but all reports I have heard are saying he is in SERIOUS condition. Not critical. Besides what looks like a broken nose or something like that in the pic, he doesn't seem all that injured to me.

reply to post by ProfessorChaos


I am also wondering about that, I also think that this might activate other sleeper cells.
I hope I am wrong.

HRT gets the job done. Best at what they do.

Originally posted by elysiumfire
DirtyD:

The USA! chants are nauseating.

Absolutely agree. America won nothing here, but lost credibility. Two individuals took on the might of Rome, and although one's dead and the other captured, they managed to inflict wounds and shutdown an entire city. What message does that send to others of their similar thinking ilk?

AGWSkeptic:

Shortly after that they had a guy on saying that he felt this was the start of something rather than the ending.

Indeed. Two bogey men have been caught. Under the world's gaze they showed what to do and how to do it. Other's may now be waiting in the wings and do it better. The only way to switch this cycle of violence off is to change your policy to winning hearts and minds. Take away the reasons for terrorism, and you will truly have something to celebrate, but you cannot do it with guns.

I absolutely agree with and applaud your points

As I watch CNN and FOX news footage of the crowds cheering, "USA, USA", I am thinking back to your point, "What exactly did we win today?"

A 19 yr old was able to elude 9000 law enforcement to include our SWAT, a few military members, local, state, and national police for about 20 hrs...basically, like you said, another terrorist cell is watching and saying, "Hmm...so all we gotta do is this and that..."

Yea...this was incredible. And once again, I await his due date in court.

Originally posted by Lazysunday
Reading some people on here saying he's in critical condition - probably won't be alive tomorrow. Possible, but all reports I have heard are saying he is in SERIOUS condition. Not critical. Besides what looks like a broken nose or something like that in the pic, he doesn't seem all that injured to me.

I've heard serious as well. He SHOULD make it to trial. Unless other people need him dead

Originally posted by ButterCookie

Originally posted by elysiumfire
DirtyD:

The USA! chants are nauseating.

Absolutely agree. America won nothing here, but lost credibility. Two individuals took on the might of Rome, and although one's dead and the other captured, they managed to inflict wounds and shutdown an entire city. What message does that send to others of their similar thinking ilk?

AGWSkeptic:

Shortly after that they had a guy on saying that he felt this was the start of something rather than the ending.

Indeed. Two bogey men have been caught. Under the world's gaze they showed what to do and how to do it. Other's may now be waiting in the wings and do it better. The only way to switch this cycle of violence off is to change your policy to winning hearts and minds. Take away the reasons for terrorism, and you will truly have something to celebrate, but you cannot do it with guns.

I absolutely agree with and applaud your points

As I watch CNN and FOX news footage of the crowds cheering, "USA, USA", I am thinking back to your point, "What exactly did we win today?"

A 19 yr old was able to elude 9000 law enforcement to include our SWAT, a few military members, local, state, and national police for about 20 hrs...basically, like you said, another terrorist cell is watching and saying, "Hmm...so all we gotta do is this and that..."

Yea...this was incredible. And once again, I await his due date in court.

I don't agree. I see one person who was able to hide among thousands. Including hundreds of homes. One person who did no more harm, who didn't kill anyone, who caused no more mayhem, was abducted without incident.

This will be interesting. If they start pushing the "he did this because he was one of those dangerous 9/11 truthers and we really have to do something about these people" agenda, there will be no doubt in my mind this was staged. But again, let's wait and see where this goes...

Originally posted by opethPA

Originally posted by tropic

Originally posted by Doodle19815
Could someone point me to the footage of them setting the backpack down and walking off. They just spoke of it on the news and I was unaware of them actually having footage of them during the "drop off".

Appears theres no footage of Tsarnaev placing anything anywhere, whether ground, garbage, etc

Navy seals had backpacks in case he failed to perform. There are photos of that.

Awesome..I didn't know you were an active Operator for any branch of the military.
Please give me the names and teams of the SEALs that were on site.

he can not give you the names of seals or even PICTURES. They were PMC.

just an attorney chiming it, but that evidence MUST be saved for trial. MUST. unless you want him to get off for a tainted jury...duh

Come on now. That dude was upright in a wheelchair with his legs blown off. No blood on wheelchair or rescuers. He's clutching his leg. Leg isnt burnt so dont yell cauterization. Wheelchair when he needs tourniquets. There are two bones in the lower leg. No one. CLEARLY FAKE . I dont care. Half truth will be treated as a lie. Also pics of people just chilling on the pavement while people took pics. I seen smiles too. What happen to the first names they gave us. They sure tied his pic to that "missing " person

Originally posted by Thurisaz
reply to post by ManiShuck

 

yes they actually had footage from Lord & Taylor of one of them leaving the backpack and walking off.

Yea I remember hearing that, just trying to end the conspiracy talk that the only reason these people are suspects is because the FBI says they are... that we have no proof they may have dropped a bag. With the three pictures I mentioned, you really don't need video to put the finger on him.

Originally posted by Covertblack

Originally posted by ButterCookie

Originally posted by elysiumfire
DirtyD:

The USA! chants are nauseating.

Absolutely agree. America won nothing here, but lost credibility. Two individuals took on the might of Rome, and although one's dead and the other captured, they managed to inflict wounds and shutdown an entire city. What message does that send to others of their similar thinking ilk?

AGWSkeptic:

Shortly after that they had a guy on saying that he felt this was the start of something rather than the ending.

Indeed. Two bogey men have been caught. Under the world's gaze they showed what to do and how to do it. Other's may now be waiting in the wings and do it better. The only way to switch this cycle of violence off is to change your policy to winning hearts and minds. Take away the reasons for terrorism, and you will truly have something to celebrate, but you cannot do it with guns.

I absolutely agree with and applaud your points

As I watch CNN and FOX news footage of the crowds cheering, "USA, USA", I am thinking back to your point, "What exactly did we win today?"

A 19 yr old was able to elude 9000 law enforcement to include our SWAT, a few military members, local, state, and national police for about 20 hrs...basically, like you said, another terrorist cell is watching and saying, "Hmm...so all we gotta do is this and that..."

Yea...this was incredible. And once again, I await his due date in court.

I don't agree. I see one person who was able to hide among thousands. Including hundreds of homes. One person who did no more harm, who didn't kill anyone, who caused no more mayhem, was abducted without incident.

YOU don't know he didn't kill anyone?????????? No one does,The FBI pictures were released to assist capture, not convict! Thats what juries and the justice system are for.

abducted without incident...lol....please explain. You don't have sources because they're aren't any!!

I am not supporting him, I am waiting for a trial and death row upon conviction. If he didn't do, the defense will convince me