Ex-military bio-enviromental engineer Kristan Meghan blows whistle on Air Force chemtrails

Originally posted by EA006
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

Don't get this. Why are they spraying chemicals into the air when the very people suspected of doing this have to breath the same air we do?

Good question, I'm not necessarily in the camp that they are deliberately trying to poison us, but I'm open to the possibility. Even if they are not trying to poison us, that still leaves the door open to many reasons for chemtrails which would make your question moot.

To answer this question, we could examine the list of possible reasons put forward for the existence of chemtrails, I will think of some reasons, please share yours, and we will compile a list.

Lets look for the place with the least amounth of spray. maybe they live there.

Originally posted by VeritasAequitas
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

Yes, it is capable of igniting when contacted with air....Lots of things are capable of happening, but that is not to be equated as definitely happening...You like to twist things a bit don't you?

BINGO!

Contrails might linger for hours, or they might dissipate quickly, Knowing that, how can anyone point up in the sky and say "chemtrail!"?

It's possible there are chemtrails, but it's unlikely based on the factors involved. So to say that they could be happening is not saying they ARE happening. You proved my point.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

"Do your own homework"

So we're being sprayed with toxins in order to keep us sick and drug dependent? ok that's probably true.

What do we do about it? Who do we take to court? How do we protect ourselves?

reply to post by bottleslingguy


right now, get the word out. document. talk, post all over the place. seriously. Sit down with your family, show them this. You got family with chronic health problems? Guess what? are you chronically sick? Guess what? Anybody you know with cancer? Guess what? I dont intend to hold your hand. This is real.

reply to post by bottleslingguy

What do we do about it? Who do we take to court? How do we protect ourselves?

Well you could check here...

chemtrailgeoengineeringlawsuit.webs.com...

But there seems to be a problem....

•Sadly, we cannot get enough people on board to complete the agenda of initiating a Lawsuit to stop Geoengineering. We've been unsuccessful in getting our members to obtain attorneys in their states and cannot get members in CA to submit the letters requested by Attorney Joe Marman.
•This means, we'll be notifying Joe to reverse any and all donations via Paypal and initiate the refund of all direct donations which were mailed in to his office.
•It just seems we're fighting something which is just too big and too well established to reverse. Geoengineering goes far deeper than we first imagined and isn't just targeted to Population Reduction, Monsanto GMO and so on. It goes far deeper than most realize.
•Targeting Geoengineering in the form of a Lawsuit, is like targeting a fly on an iceberg... Without the force needed to combat this, we just cannot be effective as we hoped.
•However, generating AWARENESS does seem to be effective on many other levels and we cannot and should not abandon this agenda.

So It doesn't seem to be going well with that lawsuit, but if your really concerned contact a lawyer and try to convince him to look into it..

Good Luck...

reply to post by mactheaxe

right now, get the word out. document. talk, post all over the place. seriously. Sit down with your family, show them this. You got family with chronic health problems? Guess what? are you chronically sick? Guess what? Anybody you know with cancer? Guess what? I dont intend to hold your hand. This is real.

Actually your first step is to find proof that chemtrails exist, then you can go from there...

Originally posted by bottleslingguy
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

So we're being sprayed with toxins in order to keep us sick and drug dependent? ok that's probably true.

If your aunt had balls....she'd 'probably' be your uncle.....note the if? There has to be actual proof that your aunt does indeed have balls, not speculation, not conjecture, not some blurry picture your pervy friend Billy has on his phone of your aunt showering, not some "government document" you found online containing the words 'aunt' and 'balls'. I don't even care if Alex Jones has an aneurysm and dies whilst screaming at the top of his lungs live on air that you aunt has balls.

I digress....your aunt has a vagina.

reply to post by mactheaxe

Anybody you know with cancer? Guess what?

Are you trying to equating cancer with chemtrails?

What about cancer before chemtrails ?

reply to post by mactheaxe

Lets look for the place with the least amounth of spray. maybe they live there.

None where I live...

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


This lady is showing proof. She has the documents to back it up.

Deny Ignorance.

reply to post by mactheaxe


She herself says she's not showing proof of chemtrails, but of over exposures to carcinogens during ground activities.

reply to post by tsurfer2000h


Yes I am. This irradiated material is in our water, our land, us. barium is radioactive.

Were being exposed to over 100 times the amount we should be.

reply to post by Zaphod58


were fighting a chemical war with TPTB

Originally posted by mactheaxe
This is real.

Which part is real? You have no repeatable, verifiable scientific evidence to even form a hypothesis or theory, let alone claiming something is real. You have no scientists to show the repeatable, verifiable scientific evidence that doesn't even exist.

So, no scientific evidence, no scientists, which part is real again?

Originally posted by mactheaxe
get the word out. document. talk, post all over the place.

"Posting all over the place" or "getting the word out" about something that either doesn't exist, or has no evidence to suggest it could exist, is known as deliberately spreading misinformation or disinformation.

Once a person becomes someone who deliberately spreads disinformation around about something that doesn't exist, they become a HOAXER:

- to deceive

- to trick into believing or accepting as genuine something false and often preposterous

The notion or idea of "chemtrails" is false and preposterous. The lack of scientists and scientific evidence make the existence of "chemtrails" false. To knowingly spread around false information is deceitful to others.

This is a hoax. Anyone who proposes "chemtrails" is a hoaxer. Stop spreading hoaxes around the internet.

Originally posted by mactheaxe
Yes I am. This irradiated material is in our water, our land, us. barium is radioactive.

Barium is not radioactive. Whoever told you this is feeding you disinformation as is the case with the entire "chemtrail" hoax.

If you had did the slightest bit of your own research, you would already know this. If you even took the time to read just this thread and see my post HERE, you would already know this.

From my post:

* Barium
- Barium is a member of the alkaline earth metals group, which make up Group 2 (IIA) of the periodic table, and a naturally occurring component of minerals that are found in the earth's crust, especially igneous rocks, sandstone, shale, coal, aragonite, calcite, chalk, limestone, marble, travertine, magnesite, and dolomite.

- Barium enters the environment naturally through weathering of rocks and minerals.

- Barium is present in the atmosphere, surface water, soils, and many foods.

Barium and strontium can also become radioactive when they come in contact with other naturally occurring elements in the ground, water, and air like radium and its daughter elements, such as radon.

This is called NORM - Naturally Occurring Radioactive Material: when elements come together naturally and become radioactive.

Barium can become naturally radioactive, as can other elements, but it's not a common occurrence, nor are the radioactive levels enough to harm us most of the time. So, please, get on Google, and start researching these things before spreading around hoaxes and false information.

reply to post by mactheaxe

Yes I am. This irradiated material is in our water, our land, us. barium is radioactive.

Were being exposed to over 100 times the amount we should be.

The maximum safe level of barium in drinking water is 0.2mg per Litre

So 100 times that is 20mg per litre.

Agree?

There have been cases of people being poisoned by barium in the past, one case the person consumed just 5mg of barium carbonate.

And another where a person consumed just 1mg of barium chloride.

And you're trying to tell us that barium is everywhere at 20 times the fatal human dose?

Deny ignorance indeed...

reply to post by _BoneZ_


Im sorry you feel that way, im not spreading disinformation, im spreading the truth. If you dont see the the big picture yet, or, part of it, you will.

reply to post by Chadwickus


im not, but she is. Thats her claim, and she did live behind the runway where the tests were taken, so it could be lower in other areas. but here in ga, thats what the levels she took said. She is indirectly linking the increase in health problems to the toxins thrown on us. cancers, sores, autism, so on.

Ive done my share on research into various areas of ATS and from the immense amount of topics, and opinions, ive concluded that its time to call shenanigans.

Originally posted by mactheaxe
Im sorry you feel that way, im not spreading disinformation, im spreading the truth.

If you're spreading truth, then post some scientific data, tests, evidence, scientists names to support the truth. You have to have some sort of factual, scientific evidence. Otherwise, there's nothing truthful about this subject.

Right now, you're only spreading what you think is the truth in your mind. Not what has actual scientific basis in the real world.


And please don't ignore my post about Barium just above Chad's that you skipped over.