Ex-military bio-enviromental engineer Kristan Meghan blows whistle on Air Force chemtrails

reply to post by InhaleExhale


yea, got mixed up sorry.

Originally posted by mactheaxe
reply to post by InhaleExhale

 

yea, got mixed up sorry.

Many truths being mixed up in your head as well it seems.


Get a clear picture that you can understand, not just cause it feels right, understand the picture your looking at and see how ridiculously hilarious the view is from where science stands, concerning chemtrails.

reply to post by InhaleExhale


Friend, were all mixed up on the truth. Im wading as best as i can, just as we all are here on ATS. thus the point of this site, to make it easier to wade through. Im an open invidual. I want to see myself proved wrong, less problems. but before that, i have to be sure whether or not im right.

Why do you get ten times as many chem trail's over a city?
we all know.
but some work for them and will lie...

reply to post by buddha


Because 100 times as many people live in cities, and therefoer there are 10 times as many reports which you mistake for 10 times as many chemttrails??

Actually there is a constant stream of people complaining around the net about "chemtrails" out in the wop wops where "no aircraft every fly" too.....

Originally posted by ownbestenemy
reply to post by Chadwickus

 

Those are cemtrails! Stop denying it! Parts of Australia are hot; therefore the air, at 30+ thousand feet should be the same!

At 30+ thousand feet anywhere it's cold - really really cold and dry.

When a jet engine is spewing out hot, humid air into an atmosphere that is cold and has low vapor pressure, the result is condensation. The water vapor coming out of the engine quickly condenses into water droplets and then crystallizes into ice. The ice crystals are the clouds that form behind the engine. This is why the streaks are called contrails, short for "condensation trails." To help explain it, scientists liken it to seeing your breath on cold days. You may have noticed that puffs of breath dissipate quickly on dryer days. The same is true of contrails: When the atmosphere is more humid, the contrails linger, but when the atmosphere is dry, the contrails disappear more quickly.

www.howstuffworks.com...

Chemtrails persist far longer, drift and dissipate very slowly regardless of humidity.

I saw a lot of Contrails as a youngerster on military bases, no big deal, but they don't last very long, they don't last long enough to 'spread out' or 'drift'. And they aren't always visable.

Just for background before I start:
I, and my spouse either are or have worked in the Aerospace industry. (Engineers..)
I don't KNOW if the chemtrails are what is being stated.

In order to prove a claim like this, there must be research. And not just reading others papers, etc.

If someone wants to do this, why not find someone, somewhere that has an aircraft that can fly at the same altitudes as the supposed chemtrails. Then instrument the aircraft somehow to collect a sample or samples of the supposed chemtrail. Then hire your own independent commercial chemical analysis of the samples.
This could settle this argument. If it were anything other than normal engine exhaust, water vapor, etc. you have solid proof of your claim. THAT should settle this.
If I could afford it myself I would do it, but it is beyond my means. Oh, well.....
B

reply to post by FyreByrd


Contrails can and do last a long time, and spread out to become cirrus clouds. This was first noticed with any kind of real notice in WWII (it was noticed prior to that, but very rarely) when B-17 formations over Europe blocked the skies with their contrails.

Newer jet engines run at cooler temperatures, which means their contrails tend to persist and will hang around for a very long time as opposed to older engines from just 5-10 years ago.

I have to question the veracity of this woman's story based on the timeline she presented. I believe she claimed to be pregnant in 2008 with her now 9 year old daughter. Did anyone else catch that around 5:20?

reply to post by rascotttx


There is a company that does this, and has a Gulfstream I already set up for sampling missions. I forget what the cost per hour is (I think it's something on the order of $5000), but it's really inexpensive for a plane of that type, and to do that kind of sampling. Not one chemtrail group has ever tried to hire them. I wonder why that is.

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


Hah! Good catch. She says she started noticing things were weird in 2008, and learned that Barium and Strontium weren't naturally occurring (which they are), then says "I was pregnant, with my now 9 year old daughter".

reply to post by Zaphod58


She seemed to throw that detail in at the last moment just to embellish her dilemma without giving it any thought.

I couldn't believe her now even if I wanted too.

reply to post by DenyObfuscation


Yes a lot of poeple noticed it in the YT comments & an answer was provided that it was an error.

I woudln't read too much into it - it's superfluous to the debunking - which is nto hard anyway. And getting into character assasination should be left to those who don't actually have any credible evidence to support their position - such as her supporters!

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


I think it's funny more than anything. There's no need to debunk her as a chemtrail whistleblower though, she already did that herself.

I flew as a primary crewmember on heavies for 17 years. If we have that many aircraft spraying then I think I would have known about it or come in contact with someone who did. I did fly with an ex dreamland col. . I have to ask don't people realize if they are spraying the people ordering are also breathing the same air and so are their kids. I think this total nonsense to be honest.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


i agree - people do make mistakes in accounts - but just look at how many conspiracy theories hinge on a simple mispronunciation or such triviality

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


Great find, thanks for posting it, and to those people arguing with the people who have made their minds up nothing is going on contrary to the ongoing dearth of information before their eyes on a continuing basis.
For them to maintain their state of self imposed ignorance even after an air force specialist who would have been privy to the chemicals coming on base has stepped forward and given witness testimony that chemtrails are real.
Only serves to prove one thing, their testimony in any aspect of what is going on in the skies cannot be trusted, they don't have the mental ability to decide something that lies beyond the scope of what they think is "acceptable", as being truth.
Deliberately ignorant, for whatever reason, remember, don't argue with an idiot they will only get you down to their level and then beat you with experience.

reply to post by The X


You mean the chemicals that have other uses besides supposedly being sprayed from planes? As has been pointed out repeatedly?

Strontium chromate is used in aircraft maintenance. It's part of the process of stripping and priming fighters and other aircraft. Tinker AFB is home to the Oklahoma Air Logistics Center, which maintains numerous aircraft.

Barium is used in x-rays, as well as in microelectronics, glass, paints, and numerous other things that all take place on Tinker AFB.

But you're right, the only purpose of them being there was for chemtrail spraying.

echa.europa.eu...
www.americanelements.com...

reply to post by network dude


And you also prove my point by conceding that just because they can happen, but you don't have sufficient 'evidence' in your eyes; does not mean that it's not happening either. It is a very real possibility.

reply to post by network dude


Actually the trails I see in the sky last for like 7 hours?