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Registration always leads to confiscation, sometimes limited confiscation at first. Background checks are just a backdoor to registration. They are not letting that information get away.
Originally posted by MrJohnSmith
reply to post by guohua
Guchua, I bet you own a gun ?
Yes. Every American citizen has the RIGHT to bare arms. If it can be controlled, it is not a right. It is a privilege.
Originally posted by phishyblankwaters
reply to post by DarthMuerte
Registration always leads to confiscation, sometimes limited confiscation at first. Background checks are just a backdoor to registration. They are not letting that information get away.
Can I ask you an honest question? You appear to be against gun registration and even background checks. What, exactly, is it you want? Do you want anyone and everyone to be able to go purchase whatever weapons they want, no questions asked?
Yes, the government should not control our RIGHTS! We should control the government.
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersI'm being serious, I'm not asking how you'd solve gun violence, or any of that. I'd like to know what you'd replace the background check system with... nothing? Do you honestly feel it's a good idea?
It has already happened. It happens every single day.
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersThink about what you are suggesting. Do you think enough of your military, your fellow Americans, would actually follow orders to start killing civilians on us soil? Do you really think they'd stand by and let this happen, or take part?
So, I should just lay down and surrender?
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersThat said. Do you honestly think the consumer grade weapons you have at your disposal could honestly pose any threat to the military and militarized police you have in the US? I mean, if they want to round you up and kill you, which makes total sense of course, you simply don't have access to anything that would really do much to a LAV or a tank. Christ, they have drones and kamikaze drones, and you think a handgun or AR15 is going to protect you?
Again, tell it to the Jews, the Armenians, the Tutsi, the Cambodians. Tell it to those who had their weapons confiscated in New Orleans. Tell it to the students at Kent state. Open your eyes.
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersNot trusting your government makes sense. Being convinced they will round you up and kill you if you don't arm yourself to the teeth, is paranoid delusions.
Thank God it isn't up to you. How can you ignore history?
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersSorry, if it were up to me, the most someone like you with your stated opinion, would be getting is a handgun or shotgun, as clearly you have some deep paranoia issues you might want to look into resolving
Or, I am just looking at history. I am looking at what every government in history who has disarmed their citizens has done throughout history. Wake up. Did you even watch the video? Or are you too lazy to investigate for yourself, preferring to trust the same government doing everything it can get away with to disarm it's citizenry.
Originally posted by phishyblankwatersWhen you view the media and government with untrusting eyes, you are a smart man.
When you are building a bunker compound full of guns cause they are coming to get you eventually, you are nuts.
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
reply to post by TarzanBeta
Definitely an interesting perspective. Star for you. There may be much truth to your post, but I cannot go gently into that good night.
Originally posted by metaldemon2000
reply to post by DarthMuerte
We had a national gun registry here which was just scrapped a few years back because it was too expensive and it didnt make anything safer. Most long gun owners in Canada are fairly responsible. Mind you, we have to take pretty intensive safety courses to obtain one, and you arent allowed to purchase them if your criminal record is a mile long.
THe only good gun control measure i agree would be effective in the US is regulations on storing them. Two fatal incidents in the last week due to kids getting their hands on them?? Thats unacceptable. We have laws for locking them up because of a similar incident in canada back in the early 90s. If anything, keep em out of the hands of a four year old.
And this is where the "loop hole"confusion is, in some states like CT (was) private transfers of rifles do not require background checks.
From what I've read, it doesn't include anything about private sales or gifting to family members.
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it. Over 170,000,000 people have been murdered by their own governments. It can happen here, and it will if we let it. TPTB have come out and told us that they plan to eliminate over 90% of the world's population. See the Georgia Guide Stones if you don't believe it.