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How would you enforce this law without a) knowing who has guns(registration), and b) inspections(which should violate the 4th amendment?
Originally posted by metaldemon2000
THe only good gun control measure i agree would be effective in the US is regulations on storing them. Two fatal incidents in the last week due to kids getting their hands on them?? Thats unacceptable. We have laws for locking them up because of a similar incident in canada back in the early 90s. If anything, keep em out of the hands of a four year old.
I would rather take my chances and have a chance to defend myself and my children then surrender and have no chance to protect them.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
reply to post by DarthMuerte
So, You need to keep your guns, so your Government wont kill you.
Perhaps, by Keeping your guns, you are Giving your Government a Reason to kill you.
You seem pretty convinced your Gov wants to kill you.
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
I would rather take my chances and have a chance to defend myself and my children then surrender and have no chance to protect them.
It is a definite harm. Was Mao part of the NWO? Stalin? Pol Pot? Idi Amin?
Originally posted by TheSparrowSings
Alright, so being pro-gun only goes with being into the NWO conspiracy. I get it now. Let's pretend that, like it has in the other Nations, this whole gun registry will help more than harm. Does it still seem like a bad idea to you. Just for one second, put aside your own personal fears of TPTB and ask yourself this.edit on 10/4/2013 by TheSparrowSings because: (no reason given)
Because background checks are just another means of registration. Registration always leads to confiscation.
Originally posted by Feltrick
reply to post by DarthMuerte
The reality of "gun control" seems to be background checks and nothing more. Heck, we already have background checks in the Great Commonwealth of PA and they're fairly quick. Walk in, fill out a form, pay $3, pay for the rifle and/or handgun and walk out.
What's the problem with including background checks at gun shows?
As for internet sales, the firearm has to be shipped to an FFL who will do a background check on you prior to giving you the firearm.
I don't see this bill as anything more than a "feel good" measure and don't understand why the NRA isn't okay with it. Is the NRA protesting it so the "gun grabbers" will be okay with the bill's passage (i.e. If the NRA doesn't like it, it must be good)?
From what I've read, it doesn't include anything about private sales or gifting to family members.
Great question, ask the Jews of Nazi Germany, or the Armenians of early 20th century Turkey, or the Tutsi tribe, or the people of Cambodia. The registration is so the government knows who is armed. That makes it much easier to confiscate the weapons than it would be if they did not know who was armed.
Originally posted by Hopechest
How is registration going to force people to have their guns confiscated exactly?
Originally posted by DarthMuerte
Great question, ask the Jews of Nazi Germany, or the Armenians of early 20th century Turkey, or the Tutsi tribe, or the people of Cambodia. The registration is so the government knows who is armed. That makes it much easier to confiscate the weapons than it would be if they did not know who was armed.
Originally posted by Hopechest
How is registration going to force people to have their guns confiscated exactly?