Protestant disinfo debunked-Catholics are also Christians

Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by truejew

 

Where did I say that?!?!

Hey, welcome to the club.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by adjensen

 

What's sad is that the same Paul referenced above also says that the people running around trying to keep "ordinances" are WEAKER in the faith than the Christian who knows their freedom in Christ. I don't t care how long a woman's hair is, it's her hair. I don't care if she wears pants or dresses, I care where her heart is.

We never should judge people on their outward appearances, but make righteous judgments about the content of their speech.

The condition of a person's heart shows on the outside through their actions including appearance.

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Akragon

 

Good point, though one has to bear in mind that, under some people's theologies, the teaching of an Apostle is given more weight than the teaching of Christ

The apostles taught the same as Christ. Therefore their teachings are given equal weight.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by adjensen

 

What's sad is that the same Paul referenced above also says that the people running around trying to keep "ordinances" are WEAKER in the faith than the Christian who knows their freedom in Christ. I don't t care how long a woman's hair is, it's her hair. I don't care if she wears pants or dresses, I care where her heart is.

We never should judge people on their outward appearances, but make righteous judgments about the content of their speech.

The condition of a person's heart shows on the outside through their actions including appearance.

Actually, Jesus said to not judge on appearance.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen

 

I'll grant you the "half naked" bit, but how is a woman wearing pants not holy? Is holiness granted by a dress and taken away by a pantsuit? You're drifting back into your "magic spells and rituals" theology, if you think so.

It has to do with wearing that which pertaineth to a man for a man and that which pertaineth to a woman for a woman.

Well, I'm with NOTurTypical on that one -- do you wear the robes and sandals that the Apostles wore? I don't recall Peter wearing long sleeved shirts, dress slacks and loafers.

"Magic spells and rituals" seems to be what you say to everything that you disagree with.

No, I note your connection to it when you become too attached to the notion that words, names or actions control the supernatural. I don't think your dislike of women with short hair has any magical undertones, but I do think that your belief that having short hair prevents a woman from "being holy" or being saved does have those undertones.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Akragon

 

Good point, though one has to bear in mind that, under some people's theologies, the teaching of an Apostle is given more weight than the teaching of Christ

The apostles taught the same as Christ. Therefore their teachings are given equal weight.

Except for baptizing in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by adjensen

 

What's sad is that the same Paul referenced above also says that the people running around trying to keep "ordinances" are WEAKER in the faith than the Christian who knows their freedom in Christ. I don't t care how long a woman's hair is, it's her hair. I don't care if she wears pants or dresses, I care where her heart is.

We never should judge people on their outward appearances, but make righteous judgments about the content of their speech.

The condition of a person's heart shows on the outside through their actions including appearance.

Actually, Jesus said to not judge on appearance.

That is due to the fact that an unholy person can also look holy on the outside. You should not judge on appearance, but judge by their heart which shows on the outside.

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen

 

Well, I'm with NOTurTypical on that one -- do you wear the robes and sandals that the Apostles wore? I don't recall Peter wearing long sleeved shirts, dress slacks and loafers.

Long sleeved shirts, dress slacks, and loafers are not the only types of clothes that pertaineth to a man.

Originally posted by adjensen

No, I note your connection to it when you become too attached to the notion that words, names or actions control the supernatural. I don't think your dislike of women with short hair has any magical undertones, but I do think that your belief that having short hair prevents a woman from "being holy" or being saved does have those undertones.

It is not that short hair prevents a woman from being holy, it is being unholy that causes her to cut her hair.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Akragon

 

Good point, though one has to bear in mind that, under some people's theologies, the teaching of an Apostle is given more weight than the teaching of Christ

The apostles taught the same as Christ. Therefore their teachings are given equal weight.

Except for baptizing in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Neither Jesus, nor the apostles taught that.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Akragon

 

Good point, though one has to bear in mind that, under some people's theologies, the teaching of an Apostle is given more weight than the teaching of Christ

The apostles taught the same as Christ. Therefore their teachings are given equal weight.

Except for baptizing in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Neither Jesus, nor the apostles taught that.

Are you sure that Jesus didn't instruct His followers to baptize in that manner?

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It's funny that we somehow need an esoteric understanding of everything Jesus said.

He told us not to judge appearances, and said it's what comes from a person's heart that defiles them.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by adjensen

 

Well, I'm with NOTurTypical on that one -- do you wear the robes and sandals that the Apostles wore? I don't recall Peter wearing long sleeved shirts, dress slacks and loafers.

Long sleeved shirts, dress slacks, and loafers are not the only types of clothes that pertaineth to a man.

What?

It is not that short hair prevents a woman from being holy, it is being unholy that causes her to cut her hair.

That is irrational -- there is no connection between holiness and hair length. I'd guess that most female porn stars are sufficient testimony to that.

And you do realize that these sorts of arguments are the exact same ones that Mormons present in defense of their "magic underwear", right?

reply to post by adjensen


Don't ya get a kick out of Legalism? Lol

It never ends.

The belief that women should never wear pants or shorts

"Legalism (Theology)" - Wikipedia

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by Akragon

 

Good point, though one has to bear in mind that, under some people's theologies, the teaching of an Apostle is given more weight than the teaching of Christ

The apostles taught the same as Christ. Therefore their teachings are given equal weight.

Except for baptizing in the Name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.

Neither Jesus, nor the apostles taught that.

Are you sure that Jesus didn't instruct His followers to baptize in that manner?

edit on 30-5-2013 by NOTurTypical because: (no reason given)

Do you really think that the apostles would disobey Jesus? Plus Luke's account of what Jesus said was, "in His name".

So in context of the earlier comment, what exactly did Jesus tell His followers in Matthew 28:19?

And I never said they disobeyed Jesus. As has been pointed out earlier, "in the Name of" means in/under the authority of.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew

 

It's funny that we somehow need an esoteric understanding of everything Jesus said.

He told us not to judge appearances, and said it's what comes from a person's heart that defiles them.

It is what comes from a person's heart that defiles them.

reply to post by adjensen


You seem to be stuck in the opinion that we teach long hair makes a woman holy. We do not teach that.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by truejew

 

It's funny that we somehow need an esoteric understanding of everything Jesus said.

He told us not to judge appearances, and said it's what comes from a person's heart that defiles them.

It is what comes from a person's heart that defiles them.

I know, I said that.

Originally posted by truejew
reply to post by adjensen

 

You seem to be stuck in the opinion that we teach long hair makes a woman holy. We do not teach that.

Have you ever heard of the "inversion principle" in logic? When you try and make the argument that women with short hair are unholy, you indirectly assert by the principle of inversion that women with long hair are holy.