Winter is Coming....

So the question is?

Did he come back as himself ?

Or did he come back as evilllllllllllllll ?

Tune in next time.

Ramsay is screwed

Ramsay needs to die a horrible,gruesome death.

For crying out loud there needs to be at least a modicum of justice in GOT.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
They are, I suspect that with the fleet burnt in Murine, Theon tries to make amends by loaning J and D his fleet. Hence the story line.

Just a guess.

There is Victarian to contend with. I think the plot line with the horn may be used.

originally posted by: neo96

So the question is?

Did he come back as himself ?

Or did he come back as evilllllllllllllll ?

Tune in next time.

The guess is that he came back as Azor Ahai.

a reply to: neo96

I think he'll be back as himself, more or less. He may lose parts of his memory, as Beric Dondarrion did, but then again, Beric Dondarrion had been killed half a dozen times.

a reply to: vor78

But LSH didn't, she came back focused on pure revenge and not the woman that she was. She is very different.

originally posted by: zazzafrazz
But LSH didn't, she came back focused on pure revenge and not the woman that she was. She is very different.

She had been dead for much longer than Jon though.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I agree, but I'd also add that, even before she was killed, she was on the verge of being consumed by grief and a desire for revenge. In those few seconds before her own death, when she saw Robb killed, she seems to have gone totally off the deep end and it could be argued is the real catalyst for her personality change as LSH.

a reply to: vor78

I was going to post something similar that what they were doing in life prior to being killed is what motivates them when they are resurrected. Similar to Beric who knows only to scour the Riverlands in pursuit of Lannisters as this was his order from Ned. But Jon may be different, I think the death was a device to release him from his obligations and allow the character to grow. While I think he will still have interest in defending the Wall it will not be his prime mover.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

I think stopping the white walkers will be his obsession. Leading the armies of men in the REAL war that is coming.

a reply to: zazzafrazz

Exactly. Being the Lord Commander on steroids.

a reply to: AugustusMasonicus

Maybe he comes out on the wall in a bandanna and yells "THEY DREW FIRST BLOOD!"

Ramsay needs to die a horrible,gruesome death. For crying out loud there needs to be at least a modicum of justice in GOT.

Well, we did get Jeoffrey's painful death before....so hopefully. Ramsay makes Jeoffrey look like an amateur.....

I do think John will be Melisandre's Azor Ahai...but will be himself, just with some added abilities. (and still be another Targaryen).

originally posted by: neo96

Ramsay needs to die a horrible,gruesome death.

For crying out loud there needs to be at least a modicum of justice in GOT.

Oh, I think we're going to see some justice handed out next week. Alliser Thorne is probably going to get introduced to Longclaw, and with any luck, Jon will have Wun Wun drop kick Olly from the top of the Wall.

There is another question to be asking.

Did the Red Witch really bring back Jon?

They made it seem like she failed.

Is there some hidden power Jon has?

a reply to: neo96

I think she did. Melisandre really didn't know what she was doing or what to expect from it, and its most likely that they made it seem she failed for dramatic effect. Its the only plausible explanation, though, from the information we have available.

I don't think she failed. Obviously. (as he's alive now). I think something inside him allowed it to work though. (like his warg ability, perhaps). Just look at how Ghost behaved. Perhaps he was piggy-backing in Ghost for a bit.

Oh, I think we're going to see some justice handed out next week. Alliser Thorne is probably going to get introduced to Longclaw, and with any luck, Jon will have Wun Wun drop kick Olly from the top of the Wall

I can definitely see Thorne getting the Ned justice treatment. While I'd love Olly to get the same, doubt we'll see it. I suspect Olly will have a lot of self-examination to do upon seeing a resurrected Jon. Likely Thorne too. Or, they'll just chalk it up to evil magic.

Another thing I don't get.

Is why those dragons didn't have drawf kabob.

The Lanisters overthrew the last Targaryen regime.

Didn't they ?

a reply to: neo96

Or maybe Tywin was being literal when he said to Tyrion, 'You're no son of mine'.

a reply to: neo96

Based on the conversation that Tyrion had with Varys and the others, I think we're supposed to believe that the dragons are intelligent enough that they could understand Tyrion and knew that he was trying to release them. The second one certainly seemed to understand it after he unchained the first.

FWIW, I am not one who believes that Tyrion is a 'secret Targaryen'.