Nuclear Physicist confirm on Main Stream Media: Aliens worked with US Military!

reply to post by Arken


Arken, this is another spoon in the disclosure process it seems, and its becoming more and more clear that the agenda may be closer then some think when considering commercials/movies/music/and even the finds related to the Cosmic Rovers that you from time to time even share. It is an interesting feeling, 1 has when viewing this type of video share especially if the credentials check out (which can be manipulated) but then some must ask then so why? So with what seems to be disclosure happening more and more in the year "20 does it really matter" lol 1 is hopeful with all that may be being put into it with religious officials acknowledging etc. that its a good transition ... and not some cosmic cowboy chess game why forgetting the board everyone. Thanks for the share Arken and keep up the good work.

NAMASTE*******

Originally posted by Gideon70

Originally posted by DarknStormy
pics or it didn't happen.. I think he is full of BS.

A rather childish response from you , wouldn't you agree ?
Since when are military personnel free to roam bases with a camera ?

Personally I find this kind of subject fascinating and even if there is only a grain of truth in the guys story , it warrants further research and adult debating .

You can believe the dreamland story but guess what? There are plenty of other people like this guy and when it comes down to it, where is their 100% conclusive, factual proof? This is like putting faith in the bible.

reply to post by DarknStormy


Realistically no one can present any actual proof and many know this as 1 is sure you do as well DarknStormy. Still to get the broadcast on MSM is a cause to question what is the agenda behind him being able to spend$$$ air time.

something to consider

Regardless of whether or not this man has made 'a couple thousand dollars' on his books or no dollars whatsoever on them (as is more likely the case as very few authors ever actually make a healthy chunk of finance from their work) we need to take into account that this man has risked a lot of public scrutiny to talk about this sort of thing I'm sure he has recieved plenty of hate mail, threats and so on but regardless he still speaks out about it and has been doing so for (appearantly) a long time.

No one looks at that though. They see a man speaking about something their closed minds cannot seem to wrap around either that or they know it is true and deny out of fear (which is in my opinion the more likely scenario).

No amount of work can prove that what he says is pure Fraud just as the same cannot prove or disprove his claims.

reply to post by DarknStormy


Can I see your 100% FACTUAL proof that such alien beings do not exist?

Please, don't try and give me that 'well, no government has said they do' and don't try and pass off the 'well, I have never seen one with my own eyes' spiel. Those arguments are more exhausted than Louis Anderson after a marathon run.

For me, the proof is in the pudding and I have a lot of pudding.

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat
reply to post by draknoir2

 

Yeah, how dare your 'Conspiracy Theorists' post their extravigant views...

On a conspiracy forum!

I mean, what gives!

If I wanted to read conspiracies I would just go to...

Wait...

ATS!

oh yeah...

Then I'm in the right place to rebut UFO and Alien conspiracy theories.

If I wanted to read 9-11 conspiracy theories I would go to...


wait...


THE 911 CONSPIRACY THEORY FORUM!

reply to post by draknoir2


Okay pardner,

When did I once mention 9/11 or the related forum?

This is at least the second time you have contrived this redundant rebuttle to a member.

Now if you have something to support your argument other than '9/11! 9/11!' I will be interested to hear it but I'm not getting my hopes up, now be a good boy and finish your Trolley O's.

Originally posted by Hopechest
I haven't checked yet but I will guarantee he has a book for sale.

How ironic isn't it?

What was that Einstein said?

"Condemnation without investigation is the height of.....something" ....can't quite remember that last word.
I think it is something we are supposed to be denying here on this site.

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat
reply to post by draknoir2

 

Okay pardner,

When did I once mention 9/11 or the related forum?

This is at least the second time you have contrived this redundant rebuttle to a member.

Now if you have something to support your argument other than '9/11! 9/11!' I will be interested to hear it but I'm not getting my hopes up, now be a good boy and finish your Trolley O's.

What "argument" is that?




And I'm sorry... you did not quote the post you were snarking at, so I assumed it was the one with the 9-11 references.

here's a couple of pictures of the Ships that are described..

Information



And here's a picture of one apparently going sightseeing



Or maybe it's just a photoshopped picture but let's say it isn't, the "No Camera" bs just got quashed. Or how about this information?

On one occasion the beings even turned on Hall without warning, grievously wounding him in the neck, and leaving him to bleed his life away in the desert dust. In that desperate situation, alone and miles from any human help, Hall found a way to save his own life by using his body weight to press his wound against the soft earth, stemming the flow.

A comment by Dr. Michael Salla from his Prepare4Contact Yahoo Group (April 2, 2005):
The incident where he was shot and left to die by the tall whites who then watched him stage a miraculous recovery was very strange. The message here was "we have power over you and expect you to die but will applaud you if your tenacity and will to live allow you to pull through". Quite sinister really but Hall just accepts it all and continues his work after his close encounter with death. The whole incident and Hall's response is strange. Still Hall admits to being hypnotised by the tall whites so it might be expected that some of his recollections may have been programmed into him. So parts of his story may be how the Tall Whites want him and us to think about them.

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If you are not here debating the video in the OP (you know, the one this thread is actually about) then what exactly are you doing here?

Poking fun at the folks who don't share the exact same social paradigm as you?

I second Generalchaos...

Deny what?

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat
reply to post by draknoir2

 

If you are not here debating the video in the OP (you know, the one this thread is actually about) then what exactly are you doing here?

Poking fun at the folks who don't share the exact same social paradigm as you?

I second Generalchaos...

Deny what?

And what exactly are YOU doing here? Having a go at someone who doesn't happen to share the exact same social paradigm as you?

Originally posted by Hopechest
I haven't checked yet but I will guarantee he has a book for sale.

Most people who witness or were a party to something amazing usually write a book/have a movie made/sell the film/etc. This isn't something new and shouldn't automatically lump them in the hoaxing category.

Do I believe him? No. I just made my own opinion by what he says and how it fits together, not whether he has profited off of it or not. By that logic we shouldn't believe a word on this website because the owners are making money off of it.

reply to post by draknoir2


Well, yes, I won't deny that. I also formulated a cogent reply to the Original Post however.

This is the closest thing I can find to a decent reply on another poster saying something like 'what is wrong with taking a story at face value?'

It is also human nature to lie for profit, notoriety, or no good reason at all.

I find it ironic that conspiracy theorists, who are the first to accuse those who accept the official or conventional of being "sheeple", are so willing to accept the most bizarre of claims at "face value", often rabidly defending such claims without a shred of evidence.

Which basically has nothing to do with the OP.

You are still just downplaying anothers views.

So, why exactly do you belive that this man is 'by his nature lying for profit, noteriety or no good reason at all'?

This is an example of another person using their title to try and add validity to a story. Many gullible, naive people will fall for this. Many people here do. You'll see them as members that will preface a comment with "Harvard professor X says..." or "Dr. X comments..." As long as you have these naive thinking people, this phenomenon will only need stories as "proof".

One point I would like to clear up, the whole "airman out alone" thing...


I had a top secret clearance while in the marines in the early 80's, I was an e-3 at the time. I was the ONLY E-3 that had a top secret clearance out of 1400 people in my battalion, the rest were e-7 and above. I had access to things even Generals did not have access to.

My "JOB" (MOS) was disseminating said information to the higher ups. so yes it it quite likely he had free reign as stated.

I have no opinion if this story is true or not but in my personal experience I was exposed to information that was not known to the General public.

One specific case I can relate that is verifiable, for those of you that want to research it was when the premier of Russia died, his name was Andropov, he was the head of the KGB before becoming the head of the USSR, I knew two weeks before it was announced that he had died.

and yes I still have my original DD214 that shows I had a Top Secret clearance.


BTW I am a Tall white, I'm 6'4, and not only is it my last name but I am caucasian as well

Originally posted by thedigirati
One point I would like to clear up, the whole "airman out alone" thing...


I had a top secret clearance while in the marines in the early 80's, I was an e-3 at the time. I was the ONLY E-3 that had a top secret clearance out of 1400 people in my battalion, the rest were e-7 and above. I had access to things even Generals did not have access to.

My "JOB" (MOS) was disseminating said information to the higher ups. so yes it it quite likely he had free reign as stated.

I have no opinion if this story is true or not but in my personal experience I was exposed to information that was not known to the General public.

One specific case I can relate that is verifiable, for those of you that want to research it was when the premier of Russia died, his name was Andropov, he was the head of the KGB before becoming the head of the USSR, I knew two weeks before it was announced that he had died.

and yes I still have my original DD214 that shows I had a Top Secret clearance.


BTW I am a Tall white, I'm 6'4, and not only is it my last name but I am caucasian as well

edit on 28-3-2013 by thedigirati because: (no reason given)

Originally posted by CagliostroTheGreat
reply to post by draknoir2

 

Well, yes, I won't deny that. I also formulated a cogent reply to the Original Post however.

This is the closest thing I can find to a decent reply on another poster saying something like 'what is wrong with taking a story at face value?'

It is also human nature to lie for profit, notoriety, or no good reason at all.

I find it ironic that conspiracy theorists, who are the first to accuse those who accept the official or conventional of being "sheeple", are so willing to accept the most bizarre of claims at "face value", often rabidly defending such claims without a shred of evidence.

Which basically has nothing to do with the OP.

You are still just downplaying anothers views.

So, why exactly do you belive that this man is 'by his nature lying for profit, noteriety or no good reason at all'?

That was a response to someone else's response. There really wasn't any need for you to insert yourself and get all confused, but you did.


Now there are plenty of others here who think Charles Hall is a less than reliable source, so why don't you give them some attention? I feel guilty hogging up all your time.

The guy sound's like he believes what he is saying but the interviewer's seem to think he is just a joke a fact that disturbs me no end as I want to stand up for him, having never seen an alien except on television or the internet and not actual alien's but image's I can not say but as I have had a lot of paranormal experience I will say that I believe this guy, if it is true though it does beg the question are we and these species related as we seem to share a lot in common and therefore are we all subspecies of a now ancient or forgotten first race.

reply to post by draknoir2


It's really no bother.

debating stuff like this with people like you is one of the reasons I love this site, so really you make it worth while, what I'm getting is you really don't have much of a reason other than your bias ( I am biased to, it's okay).

So, by all means feel free to answer my question! If not thats fine too.

Have a great day draknoir2.