Our Economy Could Be In Surplus In Less Than A Year With A 1% Wall Street Sales Tax

reply to post by XPLodER

have you given up on addressing what i say? what poor person had a choice in off shoring their OWN JOB?

Don't see any point of responding since the endless posts of telling me what I think

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07

Originally posted by XPLodER

you are being intellectuality dishonest again,

how does the ability to vote stop a company from off shoring jobs?

or are you saying government should force companies into keeping jobs onshore requiring a larger government?

xploder

Voting "third party" helps. Like these three...







There are choices to be made at the ballot. People vote wrong party cause they don't want to waste their vote. The only wasted vote is one that is wasted, ie voting for something you don't believe in. Hell if I was a communist then sure as hell I would vote cpusa, but alas I am not!

edit on 24/3/13 by EarthCitizen07 because: (no reason given)

im a greenie

i think the planet is the most important thing in the world lol

i am a humanist, not capitalist or socialist.

both are constructs of control by the few over the many



xploder

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by XPLodER

 

have you given up on addressing what i say? what poor person had a choice in off shoring their OWN JOB?

Don't see any point of responding since the endless posts of telling me what I think

i am trying to debate you into a corner where you realise that your views contradict themselves,

i personally think we were close to a break through here,

do poor people offshore their own jobs?

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER

i am trying to debate you into a corner where you realise that your views contradict themselves,

Yeah attacking someones character and intelligence is "trying to have a debate".

so we agree entitlements for the rich is a waste of time because they continue to off shore jobs any way

Entitlements for the poor and middle class is a waste of time because all those products are made in China so people support taxing the rich so the poor and middle class can go buy more corporate products made in China.

Definately is a waste of time.

Originally posted by neo96

So use big government to raise taxes is fine using big government for regulation and taxation and everything else they do that is directly responsible for jobs being moved offshore.

I do not support big government which is why I am agatnst taxation.

The only companies being regulated are small ones that can't afford to move to india and china.

There are no tariffs worth mentioning and that is all that matters. The globalists don't want a healthy america.

Big government by itself tells me NOTHING! It is their motives that matter. In fact a smaller government in terms of everything(including less foreign bases) would help a lot in controlling the debt problem, but conservatives don't want to do that, except for ron paul, rand paul. Libertarians DO! I have more respect for them than conservatives, but I still hate their free market ideas because free markets on the global scene is exactly what we ALREADY HAVE!

reply to post by neo96


you said people can vote = governments can regulate the off shoring of jobs,
AND
you say you want smaller govenment

which contradicts your first point.

this is called a logical falicy

do you understand the contradiction?

xploder

reply to post by XPLodER


Whart contradiction?

WHAT?

People vote their elected leaders and since the majority of people in this country think that corporations are evil and they want to make them pay their leaders do make them pay.

Which created outsourcing there is no contradiction.

reply to post by neo96

Seriously?

Stop wasting my time as stated throwing money at them doesn't not mean people care

This double negative makes no sense.

Don't see any point of responding since the endless posts of telling me what I think

Dude, people are trying here to understand what exactly it is you think. Incoherence is not helping.

(And what is up with "Amerikuns"? What is that??)

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by XPLodER

 

i am trying to debate you into a corner where you realise that your views contradict themselves,

Yeah attacking someones character and intelligence is "trying to have a debate".

so we agree entitlements for the rich is a waste of time because they continue to off shore jobs any way

Entitlements for the poor and middle class is a waste of time because all those products are made in China so people support taxing the rich so the poor and middle class can go buy more corporate products made in China.

Definately is a waste of time.

edit on 24-3-2013 by neo96 because: (no reason given)

i am trying to ask you questions that show the contradiction of your views,

i have been careful not to call you names, but i have defined your abilities in debate,
and shown your inconsistencies of view points.

this is a legitimate debate tactic.

so you latest answer is,
dont give money to poor people because they would spend it on Chinese goods?
BUT
that is like saying dont give the rich tax breaks because they would only send it to off shore tax havens

do you see the contradiction here,

ie
"its ok for the rich to off shore income"
but
"the poor would only send their money to china"

its a logical inconsistency (the only difference is rich = ok poor = bad)

xploder

reply to post by wildtimes

This double negative makes no sense.

Makes perfect sense taking money from the haves give it to the have nots means people care

Dude, people are trying here to understand what exactly it is you think. Inchoherence is not helping.

No they aren't tax the rich,corporations nothing else matters every single person is suppose to agree with that and anyone who disagrees with that gets label "incoherent".

reply to post by neo96

No they aren't tax the rich,corporations nothing else matters every single person is suppose to agree with that and anyone who disagrees with that gets label "incoherent".

Again, incoherent. Been drinkin', bud? Or is English your second language???

Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by XPLodER

 

Whart contradiction?

WHAT?

People vote their elected leaders and since the majority of people in this country think that corporations are evil and they want to make them pay their leaders do make them pay.

Which created outsourcing there is no contradiction.

ok so the money being sent to the cayman islands has been sent their because people think their evil,
WHEN THE BEHAVIOUR of sending money offshore is evil in the first instance.

this is called a circular argument,
the people call the corps evil,
so the corps off shore jobs and profits,
which created the outsourcing problem,
which is why people call the corps evil.

circular arguments are not a good debate tacktic

xplodr

reply to post by XPLodER

i am trying to ask you questions that show the contradiction of your views,

No

i have been careful not to call you names, but i have defined your abilities in debate, and shown your inconsistencies of view points.

offtopic

so you latest answer is, dont give money to poor people because they would spend it on Chinese goods?

Didn't say that

BUT that is like saying dont give the rich tax breaks because they would only send it to off shore tax havens

Didn't say that either

do you see the contradiction here,

Yes I do clearly it is a contraction of saying things a poster clearly did not

ie "its ok for the rich to off shore income" but

Clearly thats bad

"the poor would only send their money to china"

Clearly its just fine to tax the rich so they can still send that money offshore

Talk about a "logical inconsistency".

Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by neo96

 

No they aren't tax the rich,corporations nothing else matters every single person is suppose to agree with that and anyone who disagrees with that gets label "incoherent".

Again, incoherent. Been drinkin', bud? Or is English your second language???

Offtopic

So what do people not understand?:

Really?

As the topic clearly is about tax Wall Street wealth to "balance" the budget where the majority of that federal budget is spent on corporate products NOT defense related.

Take the needed money from the haves to give to the who people don't.

reply to post by XPLodER

ok so the money being sent to the cayman islands has been sent their because people think their evil, WHEN THE BEHAVIOUR of sending money offshore is evil in the first instance.

SO what?

Amerikans have offshore accounts pretty much for over 100 years and only now is "bad".

so the corps off shore jobs and profits, which created the outsourcing problem

That is a lie corporations did not create outsourcing politicians did the truth of the matter corporations don't care where they do business.

reply to post by neo96

So what do people not understand?:

Really?

As the topic clearly is about tax Wall Street wealth to "balance" the budget where the majority of that federal budget is spent on corporate products NOT defense related.

Take the needed money from the haves to give to the people don't.

simple question,

if i labour for a living,
and you move money for a living,

WHY SHOULD MY INCOME BE TAXED AND NOT YOURS?

XPLODER

reply to post by neo96


Actually a one percent tax on all wall street transactions and a consumption tax are the only two ways I can think of that target EVERYONE that deserves to be taxed in the first place. With the current taxation scheme there are too many loopholes, so many that even lawyers would have a hard time finding.

I support the 1% tax on wall street. Thats all I am going to say. And yes shrink government too, except for social welfare programs that people paid into. Nobody likes LOSING THEIR MONEY! An enormous military helps only the stockholders who own shares in MIC. I couldn't give a rat's ass about them anymore than you could give a rat's ass about WC.

Apparently nobody knows a single thing about tariffs. That was the key to unlocking the whole mystery!

reply to post by neo96

As the topic clearly is about tax Wall Street wealth to "balance" the budget where the majority of that federal budget is spent on corporate products NOT defense related.

What? Again.

Take the needed money from the haves to give to the people don't.

Who are 'the people don't'?

reply to post by XPLodER


How many times do I have to say I do not support income taxes?

REally how many times?

reply to post by neo96

SO what?

Amerikans have offshore accounts pretty much for over 100 years and only now is "bad".

what would happen if EVERY AMERICAN off-shored their income?
ie
every single american payed no taxes at all?

how long would it take for america to collapse?

xploder