Why Does Circle K Scan My Driver's License When I Buy Beer / Cigarettes?

Personally OP, I was far more annoyed when I was at a register/store where they had to manually key it in and of course, it REQUIRED they key in a birth date. Stores don't trust clerks or whatever, so it won't let the sale go through without it for many.

What got downright insane and just outrageous (Clerks and I laughed more than once during the middle of the night on this) is when a truck stop could see me pull up, key for fuel, pump 200-300 gallons into the truck and then come in for a pack of cigarettes while I was there .....to be carded under legal requirement.

I'd also rather have handed them my license to swipe than have to verbally give them a B-day with 15 people standing around behind and nearby. One of those things....and a personal preference to be sure.

reply to post by bknapple32


This is very true. As a former cashier, I could face MAJOR fines and/or imprisonment, loss of my job, the whole thing going on my record, AND it gives the store a strike, which then can cause either a suspension of or loss of it's license to sell.

I can understand where the OP is coming from, but it is just a sure fire way of recognizing fakes.

Why is that any different then what has been going on for years? People trying to validate the age of someone buying something that has an age requirement.

reply to post by unknownfrost


Then why do they even bother looking at it first? Seems that they would just scan it and be done with it?

reply to post by bknapple32

The device is completely unattached to a network/internet/any other device? If the answer is yes, and like at least one member already pointed out, the age of customer X is more than apparent without any kind of documentation, why the big brother control system? Is it compulsory due to gov. regulations or just because the company decides to start doing it? Interested to hear the why's and wherefore's.


EDIT: Reread OP, please disregard above questions. I get ID checked (I'm 40 something) at certain establishments here. More for show than anything I think but what do I know?

reply to post by opethPA


The SCANNING is the difference...

Originally posted by TrueBrit
I carry ID for age verification purposes EVERYWHERE I go. Its in the beard on my chin, that reaches to my chest, and the grey at my temples, the manner in which I comport myself, and so on.

That's great, you think your physical appearance guarantees someone that doesn't know you can accurately confirm your age.

Too bad that's not valid and applicable to everyone.

reply to post by Signals


How is scanning your ID related to being ready? Ready for what? WTF?

reply to post by Signals


They look at it to see where the bar code is or completely out of habit.

Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by opethPA

 

The SCANNING is the difference...

I personally do not see anything nefarious about this rather just as a way that stores are trying to get around possible liability or improving work flow efficiency.

That's not to say it couldn't be abused but their are so many things and so many ways that you could get bent over a barrel and this just doesn't bother me.

Of course I neither drink nor smoke so I have never been carded.

reply to post by Signals


It's just the way their system works now . . . Circle K is a Phx, AZ based company and they have been doing it here for a couple years. They have a way to overide it and say they did manually, but whether they do or not depends on the Mgr, I guess. It is there to ensure if someone buys with a fake or in a "sting" they have the employee logged in to the register's info . . . if they "say" they checked but didn't or a parent complains or something they can say the kid produced id. By scanning, there is no question. It's just a liablity issue.

I've asked why they did it to me, when they never did previously at my corner local.

No, don't get bent out of shape about it. People don't get it. They're getting us used to being violated little by little.

My grandfather never would have stood for being felt up at the airport. Do you think John Wayne would have let some dork from the TSA touch his jewels? Hell no.

They're taking our dignity and our freedom one molecule at a time.

What's the matter, don't you guys appreciate the initial stages of implementing the MARK OF THE BEAST!?!?!??!?! Buwahahhahahahahahahahahah


But serrrrously... Yea it probably is the introduction of that, and I started noticing this years(?) ago.... It's common where I'm at for them to scan my card anytime I buy cigarettes/alcohol... I got very used to it.


I had a big long argument about this one day with the store clerk when they started doing it.


"What? I come in here every day and buy cigarettes? Why are you just now needing to scan my card? Why do you even need to see my ID, I've been buying cigarettes from you for months!"

"Dude, we just have to now. It's the policy."

"Uh huh... so, um... would you scan a little old lady with grey hair if she wanted to buy cigarettes?"

"Dude, I scan my own brother and he's 35!! It's just the policy man"

"Right....." *take my cigarettes and leave*


......... There is no sense behind this new policy. It's not against the law to not card someone, it's against the law to sell to minors. Huge difference.

Originally posted by 123143
No, don't get bent out of shape about it. People don't get it. They're getting us used to being violated little by little.

My grandfather never would have stood for being felt up at the airport. Do you think John Wayne would have let some dork from the TSA touch his jewels? Hell no.

They're taking our dignity and our freedom one molecule at a time.

Circle K is not a gov agency . . . it's a liablity issue . . . they are covering their ass, not worried about yours. Places get fined if the get caught not checking ideas and the money doesn't come from the kid making min wage . . . it's paid by the corp.

reply to post by Ringadingasaur


If you don't understand the liablity issue . . . you obviously never owned/operated a business.

Who do you think is breathing down corporate necks about drunk driving?

I found this interesting...

More on 2D bar codes from the Missouri Department of Revenue: “When the bar code is scanned, retailers only see the same information that is on the front of the driver license, except there is a four-character code that denotes the county of residence of the license’s owner that is not on the front of the license. The retail scan does not contain the photo or the signature of the licensed driver. How retailers use this information varies based on the type of scanner provided to the store by the scanner vendor. For example, some vendors might provide an “automatic age calculator” that instantly shows whether the owner of the driver license is old enough to purchase alcohol. This would help reduce instances where a clerk might miscalculate the age or to make it moot if a person attempts to make it appear that the driver license owner is old enough to purchase alcohol by altering the face of the license.The bar code is used by local license office personnel to instantly bring information about the driver to a computer screen when a customer comes into an office. Law enforcement can also scan the bar code to bring up driver record information if the person is pulled over. However, specific information noted in these two examples would not be able to be accessed by anyone at a store. The scanners in the license offices and in law enforcement vehicles are tied to specific systems that can’t be accessed by retail scanners. Here is a page on our web site that describes some of the driver license security measures, including the bar code. MoDoR license info

stlouis.cbslocal.com...

I just wonder where else that info goes.
So I avoid those places that scan.
Heck,the grocery store just looks at me,types in something and thats it.
I think they type in old fart or something.

The question goes right back to you:
How much police state are you willing to put up with?

Every time you let them scan your ID you're only feeding the beast.

Originally posted by solomons path
reply to post by Ringadingasaur

 

If you don't understand the liablity issue . . . you obviously never owned/operated a business.

But again, as previously stated, when it is obvious the customer is probably nearer death than birth, why a compulsory, computer-logged check? Is it not unreasonable and pointless. It's not like I (am entitled to) ask the cashier to provide their ID at the time of sale, or the store's proof of licence to sell alcohol...

I must be getting old, this kinda crap irritates the hell out of me....snazzle, frazzle....

I'm for a great conspiracy, but all this is is a form of validating the purchase of items meant for those over 18 & 21 respectively.

They do not "Store" the data. It is merely to see what your age is. It is just like the scanners at bars these days where doormen scan your ID and your age pops up on their device.

Really nothing more than that.

AAC