Operation Thunderdome: How The US Will Unravel. And Soon. (Important)

reply to post by MRuss


I can agree to what you are saying here, Ulsterman is pretty credible as well, although not 100%, but close. As to the motive, it may be something else than what you perceive.

I believe the motive is outside subversion by a foreign power during the civil war, when the country is already in disarray, and not able to withstand a combined nuclear attack on key sites prior to land troop invasion by one or two of the largest militaries in the world. It may be a communist attack, or rather a socialist(as they are today), although they may have the same ultimate goal: One world government, but i doubt it. Rather i believe they are tired of having a world police interferring in everything they do, even #ing their neighbours to death on a regular basis. They simply want them gone, the world police. The Foreign policy that so many supports. Because they are scared.

Fear is your enemy.

Originally posted by Hopechest
reply to post by Violater1

 

That is the problem.

Word will get out about what's going on and we've seen from numerous interviews with Nazi soldiers as well as Soviet soldiers and French soldiers in the Algerian war that they did not know about the horrors being committed.

By their own admission, had they known they would not have participated. Its impossible to hide millions of people being arrested and murdered, this is the problem Stalin ran into.

People began asking questions about where the people were going and lack of contact and his practice eventually had to end otherwise he faced open revolt.

and when you take into account the intelligence level of the average american citizen, and then account for, on average, the number of f**ks they tend to give about anything that isn't facebook, twitter, or some kind of reality or prime time television programming, its fairly easy to work out that the average american citizen will believe the standard BS excuse the federal government has been using for a little over a decade now: "they were terrorists"

Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
Even if this source is full of it and this is cast-off as fear mongering, the financial reality we face is exactly what they describe!

No doubt about it, we face some very rough times ahead. We will not be able to sustain this facade for much longer and economies around the world are on the verge of complete collapse.

So we can dismiss this story all we want, but it still doesn't change reality.

Good read, OP!

They had actually collapsed in the 1930's and we made it through that without a one world government.

How do you explain that?

That depression was NOTHING compared to what this depression will be. Just do the math.

Originally posted by oldkawguy
reply to post by MRuss

 

Ahh Come on Guys !! WTF..Have you lost your damm minds !!! Nobody with some sense is going to believe this crap. What is the point ? We are all in the streets..OK Who will pay taxes ? How will the Gov. make anymore money ? Geez.. I got a good mind to bail on the site. What has came true that you know of that these bunch of, the sky is falling crack pots has said that WILL happen. This is just like pro wrestling

a few things here..

firstly, simply dismissing things out of hand without even looking into it is ignorant....here at ATS, we like to at least TRY to Deny Ignorance™

additionally, explain to me how the north korean government sustains itself

and also, if you don't care for the subject matter of the thread, why read it? why reply?...and if you don't do conspiracy theories, what are you even doing here? if conspiracy theories aren't your thing, maybe stick to BTS? or perhaps another site on the above network...

Originally posted by oldkawguy
Ahh Come on Guys !! WTF..Have you lost your damm minds !!! Nobody with some sense is going to believe this crap.

That's the SAME thing everyone said after JFK was killed.

People REFUSED to listen.

Today they STILL refuse to listen.

Ironically, the JFK murderers are still very much in control.

Denial is an amazing thing.

reply to post by SpaDe_


Oh Geez Your going to hurt my feeling's. So this is your defenition of a massive contribution ? This is, your words, insightful and informing ? I don't B.S. much, as you can see by my only 29 insightful and informing posts. But I will stand behind anything that I said, and tell you if you need to know, and it was not me, who the hell did say it. You see, I unlike you don't run around with my tail between my legs.

Don't forget my friend, this is still the greatest country in the world.

So while ur digging your hole, or cleaning out your bank account, or what ever it is you would do to keep the the Army from getting you.

I'll be crackin another cold one and puting on some ZZ top, flipping the burger's so they don't smoke to much and give away my location, so the Army don't think I'am eating.

Originally posted by Daedalus
if you don't care for the subject matter of the thread, why read it? why reply?...and if you don't do conspiracy theories, what are you even doing here?

Is it possible that some of these people actually ARE the subject matter of the thread...

Ever seen how roach's scatter when ever you turn on the light?

FORWARD....

I've been waiting for the collapse for over 5 years now, akin to a Christian saying "Jesus is coming soon!"

That puts me into a bad stereotype, but honestly, look at the numbers.

Bill Clinton was the last president to leave office with a budget surplus, 248 billion. There has not been a president since that has left office with surplus. The deficit has increased, steadily, and the government pays something like 325 million per day in interest alone. Maybe billion. Feel free to correct me. Shoot, let me check:

Okay, it's 220 billion per year. That works out to be 607 million per day, so I was wrong. That's in interest alone. Each day, the debt grows by 3.5 billion, or about 2 million per minute. Such an economic model is unsustainable.

It just doesn't work.

Who can't get their head around that?

We can't blame this mess on Obama, either. Bush Sr. began the insanity, with 9/11 occurring during his watch, and went into debt to fight terrorism. The simple fact is this: There's no feasible way to pay off the debt. Even in 20 years, with any computer model you want to use.

16 trillion in debt. Is that acceptable?

I'm done with the facts, for now, so let me speculate a bit:

I can see an event surrounding North Korea. China has to ally with them, but also holds a lot of our debt. We also buy their exports. If we can't buy Chinese imports, their economy collapses as well, and all the debt they hold is worthless.

War?

A perfect reason to declare Martial Law in the US, and the standing president can enact a standing EO in the case of a National Emergency. To protect the constitution is a knife that slices both ways.

One extreme example of an executive order is Executive Order 9066, where Franklin D. Roosevelt delegated military authority to remove any or all people (used to target specifically Japanese Americans and German Americans) in a military zone. The authority delegated to General John L. DeWitt subsequently paved the way for all Japanese-Americans on the West Coast to be sent to internment camps for the duration of World War II.

Wiki

FEMA and the DHS have been granted the power to take over everything already, as every good ATS member should know.

Feel free to search.

Try EO 12919, from June of 1994:

Sec. 102. Policy. The United States must have an industrial and technology base capable of meeting national defense requirements, and capable of con- tributing to the technological superiority of its defense equipment in peace- time and in times of national emergency. The domestic industrial and techno- logical base is the foundation for national defense preparedness. The authori- ties provided in the Act shall be used to strengthen this base and to ensure it is capable of responding to all threats to the national security of the United States.

All they have to do is imply that the economic collapse is a threat to national security. DOH!

reply to post by Hopechest

The one part always missing out of these conspiracies is the reason why.

What does the government possibly have to gain by destroying their populace?

Money, power, control?

It seems that if they have the ability to do everything your predicting then they already have those things. You always need to come up with a motive for conspiracies before you put together pieces.

Aren't you a student of political science or something along those lines? I know its something like that. Point is, if you stopped thinking this way and opened your eyes to the fact that there truly is an agenda to enslave you and strip you of your liberties if would make all the effort you have put into learning that trash a complete waste of time.

So many smart people remain willfully ignorant to maintain the illusion of they're storybook lives.

I have to respectfully agree with the nay-sayers. This kind of information, whether true or false, can actually ruin lives instead of save them. This kind of information could easily make someone decide 'well, I might as well give up looking for a job, what's the point'.

The only people who could possibly benefit from a 'heads up', are those who are fully ready for a SHTF scenario. If you are NOT prepared for a complete collapse of the economy, please keep doing what you're doing. Keep trying to make money and of course prepare the best you can with what you've got. Stockpiling food and water is a win-win regardless.

I only say this because I have been set back by irrational fears in the past. I've lurked for 7 years and guess how many major disasters have completely turned my life upside down? Yeah, ZERO. I'm not saying 'don't prepare', but don't let anything you read here set you back if you aren't prepared for a worst case scenario. You can only prepare if you keep focusing on the future. My 2 pesos

reply to post by kaylaluv


that's where you're wrong...a small group HAS agreed how the world is to be run, and everything is being controlled "from the shadows", as it were, according to this plan..

everything is show. the cake is a lie.

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by nancyliedersdeaddog
Why would some high up "white house insider" go to an anonymous blogger on the internet with no creditably and following at the time?

Who would YOU go to?

Let me guess, ummm, ABC.

Yeah THAT'S the ticket...

They got LOTS of credibility.

I would rather go to abc then some random blogger with no credibility but hey that's just me. I'm sorry if you think this guy is the real deal but like most people i'm not buying it as of right now.

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Originally posted by Daedalus
if you don't care for the subject matter of the thread, why read it? why reply?...and if you don't do conspiracy theories, what are you even doing here?

Is it possible that some of these people actually ARE the subject matter of the thread...

Ever seen how roach's scatter when ever you turn on the light?

...i see what you did there

in all seriousness, yeah, i have no doubt that if there are employees of certain specific organizations that shall remain nameless, assigned to watch this place, there would be at least a couple of them actively watching, and maybe even participating in this thread...

...i do hate me some roaches...

Originally posted by Signals

FORWARD....

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reply to post by MRuss


If part of the plan is to continually predict the demise of the US, particularly through the warnings of secret insiders, until nobody believes it is going to ever happen (because the shock of it will make it so much more effective, I guess?), then its working. 30+ years of imminent collapse has me at the point where, with a record of somewhere around 0-1,654, I'll believe it when I see it. There isn't a single sign of collapse coming, at least not for anyone who understands anything about economics.

"Why would they do this?".... "What is the benefit?"..... "Who would pay the taxes?"..... "What purpose would it serve?"...

WAKE UP.

It's not rocket science. You should be able to see it by now. They don't even bother hiding it anymore.
The elite of the NWO clan want us all DEAD. They want to reduce the global population to 500 million or less. Why? Because they want this world for themselves. Yes, it's really that simple. They see the world as chaotic and dangerous because WE are an infestation. They want us GONE.

That's the goal. They don't need us to pay taxes. They don't need us to pay taxes even now, they just create money out of thin air when it suits them. Stop deluding yourself. No, this doesn't happen overnight. That's why they've been steadily eroding our rights for generations. Controlling us through fiat currency and brainwashing tv & movies. Politicians promising us all kinds of things and delivering the opposite. Total surveillance and 10's of thousands of laws to turn you into criminals. Installation of DHS & TSA. Total destruction of the Constitution with things like NDAA & the Patriot Act. Openly boasting about torture. Gun confiscation. Rhetoric aimed at turning everyone into a potential "terrorist" threat, and the rest into government snitches. It's happening..... slowly...... like the frog.

Once the population is reduced and under control through open war, bio-weapons, starvation, etc...., eugenics will ensure they never lose control of the population again. Those who remain after the kill-off will be total slaves. The remaining slaves will be easily controlled through fluoridation, vaccines, psych drugs, propaganda and martial enforcement. The workers for the NWO Elite. Bootlickers with no IQ left to resist. The toilet cleaners. There will be no freedom whatsoever, only slavery. The elite will live like Gods, ruling over the entire planet. And there will never be a time again when we are able to fight back. All will be lost.

The world will consist of the sick, twisted, evil Elite "Gods"..... and the slaves. For eternity.

Welcome to the New World Order.

reply to post by kyviecaldges


It's easy to think positive but the reality is that Socialism has been the agenda for this country for over 100 years on the road to word government by a group of men that belong to secret societies that have infiltrated our government and society at all levels, and they even openly write about it. No worries for them because JP Morgan Purchased The Media In 1915 according to a 1917 Congressional Record and all of the information the public gets these days is filtered, although occasionally some important things slip through, thankfully..

Check out the late Congressman Larry McDonald from this 1983 Crossfire clip, he spells it all out and mentions a document produced from Aurthur Schlesinger (who later becomes high up in the councils of the Kennedy Administration) in 1947 announcing the Socialism agenda. He mentions a document called The Schlesinger Manifesto which eventually got placed in another Congressional Record in 1961 (links to scans below video).. This agenda is to be implemented in exponentially increasing portions of which we're obviously in the latter stages.. If you care about the future of your "cozy" life right now you might take the time to read it and use common logic based on events taken place in the last say 50 years.. Or hell, 100 years.. 1913 was a milestone for them to say the least (The Fed)..



And the manifesto...


Schlesinger Manifesto Congressional Record - Page 1

Schlesinger Manifesto Congressional Record - Page 2

Schlesinger Manifesto Congressional Record - Page 3

Schlesinger Manifesto Congressional Record - Page 4


Good day...

This very topic is dealt with in the Protocols of Zion and much more dealing with the Global movement.

Check them out !

reply to post by rstregooski

Originally posted by rstregooski
It's easy to think positive but the reality is that Socialism has been the agenda for this country for over 100 years on the road to word government by a group of men that belong to secret societies that have infiltrated our government and society at all levels, and they even openly write about it.

Last year I did some digging around on this subject to see how far back I could trace this.

I became convinced that it goes all the way back to the beginning.

Everyone talks about 1776 and all kinds of other BS.

Don't but it, it's just more lies.

Our real history has all been hidden behind a facade of propaganda.

In FACT it started long before America even existed.

They were referred to in ancient times as the Brotherhood of the Snake.

Jesus more appropriately called them the "Synagogue of Satan".

The same group is still in business today only with a different name: Illuminati.

The names have changed, but the beliefs, tactics, and designs of the groups have remained essentially the same.

Danny Casolaro called it "the Octopus".

Fletcher Prouty called it ‘The Secret Team’.

George Washington called it the ‘Illuminati‘.

From the book: Pawns Of The Game:

"The illuminati started long before 1776, It has it's roots in the mystery religions which the knights templar perpetuated. In Nimrod's time, Semiramus brought back the mystery religions which were from before the time of Noah. The Illuminati was just a different name by which these same entities exsisted. They can change their name a thousand times, but the same entities run it."

Note the illuminati in Jesus' day.

"The Old Testament is simply the history of how Satan became prince of the world, and caused our first parents to defect from God. It relates how the synagogue of Satan was established on this earth, it tells how it has worked since to prevent God’s Plan for the rule of the universe being established on this earth. Christ came to earth when the conspiracy reached the stage that, to use his own words, Satan controlled all those in high places.

He exposed the synagogue of Satan (Rev. 2:9; 3:9) he denounced those who belonged to it as sons of the devil (Lucifer), whom he castigated as the father of lies (John 8:44) and the prince of deceit (2 Cor. 11:14). He was specific in his statement that those who comprised the synagogue of Satan were those who called themselves Jews, but were not, and did lie (Rev. 2:9; 3:9). He identified the Money-Changers (Bankers) the Scribes, and the Pharisees as the Illuminati of his day.

Illuminati Roots