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Operation Thunderdome: How The US Will Unravel. And Soon. (Important)

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posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Hopechest
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The one part always missing out of these conspiracies is the reason why.

What does the government possibly have to gain by destroying their populace?

Money, power, control?

It seems that if they have the ability to do everything your predicting then they already have those things. You always need to come up with a motive for conspiracies before you put together pieces.



The motive is simple really. 100% control of the populace and a two class system, Rich and Working/poor class. This all must come to pass so they can get the chip in everybody which will then equal to something much worse for humanity further down the line. Think of 1984 but more cameras and surveillance everywhere. It will ultimately be so bad that you will not be able to have a long sit down in the bathroom of your own home, let alone make love to your spouse without someone recording it.

It's ok to be scared we all are or, concerned at the very least. What is not ok is to be oblivious to what is going on in our country and all over the rest of the world. This country was set up for failure all along to make room for Global Governance, once you accept that it becaomes very easy to beleive the rest of it. Americans are just guinea pigs in a plan that goes back a very long time. Your government doesn't give a flying $%#& about you so stop trying to defend them.

Another thing to point out is because the Elite have most of the wealth in the world, they assume that they can call the shots and make up all the rules. They look at the 99% as expendable and cattle-like. The least of us around the easier we are going to be controlled so they are hoping to get a huge backlash just not a mass awakening. In a way you are playing right into what they want. A handful of us spreading truth and the many of us refusing to accept it till it is too late to do anything about it. I mean really, What the hell did you think Obama was talking about when he said change back in '08. Stay safe and god bless.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:37 PM
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The royal family are part of the "Committee of 300" and the Club of the Isles. They are part of the elite in the higher levels.The Royal Roundtable spawned the American Council on Foreign Affairs. Prince Phillip runs the anti-humanity World Wildlife Foundation.

The UK is already undergone much of the transformation. Socialism is the standard convention. People don't even think in any other terms. Any political movement outside of that is deemed fanatics or extremists. Tories are useless tired old dogs, the hegalian antithesis to the establishment endorsed thesis, Labour. Being in UKIP can get you fired or children removed! You risk arrest for openly supporting being BNP or EDL. You are so close to the issue you probably can't even see that UK and EU hate laws are orwellian "right-think" enforcement. The current policies ARE the policies of the future. NHS "care pathways" for useless eaters. Greenbelt forced resettlement into controlled cities. Turning the countryside back into the elites personal playgrounds. rule by quango with the veneer of democracy to placate the masses. etc

Cecil Rhodes started out over a hundred years ago to create a world unified under an anglophile banner. Today, that mindset represents one of the major NWO factions. You want to know the future of the UK, think todays policies several magnitudes greater. You're already screwed and don't know it yet. Thats your UK update.
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posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:38 PM
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Your story assumes that there is some uber smart control behind the scenes which staged a collapse. Well.. as TPTW were in near total control by 2007, why would they want people to wake up?
The internet was planned for this role?
Take a look at RBS, JPMorgan, BoA... sorry the way to win is not turn all Western banks into zombies...
The Euro is in collapse... key banks Dexia, et al are under, going under, or zombies... planned?

No. There is no one so stupid as to destroy a base so strong... One percent own 90 percent of assets... what happens when those assets go to zero? A loss of power..

Face reality. Corruption, Cronyism, Sloth, and Greed.

You are in fear, they are in fear. People or Governments facing the financial abyss with lots of guns do crazy things.. What you are seeing is the collapse of power built over centuries driven to its knees by internal failure.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:39 PM
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Originally posted by Murgatroid

Last year I did some digging around on this subject to see how far back I could trace this.

I became convinced that it goes all the way back to the beginning.


As did I. This has been going on for thousands of years. The difference now is that they have the technologies, tools, weapons, organization, and useful idiots to make a play for the endgame and make it happen. It's been a long time in the works, and they are very near to completion.

I think stripping us of arms and getting everyone to distrust each other by labeling everyone as a potential terrorist are clear indicators of the final stages. After that, all they need is the right false flag event to usher in martial law, restrict food & water, eliminate all unauthorized trade / barter / cash, roll out RFID, and destroy anyone that resists. The masses will BEG for this to happen.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:46 PM
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Fair enough, I'm aware of this, Things are much deeper rooted than many know. But to respond to who I responded to I think it's more effective to start small, catch my drift? Same reason we all get labeled "conspiracy theorists". The truth is really stranger than fiction but those sleeping can only digest so much at a time..



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:48 PM
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Easy. Less people, less to spend time, effort and money to control. Plus, this: Sociopathy. If no one has noticed, it seems to be "successful" in Amerika these days, the sociopaths are the best candidates. Let's put it this way: I'm walking down the street, minding my own business. Perhpas I even have a gun on my person for protection. A robber approaches, gun already drawn, obviously. Now, who will win this confrontation. Meaning. those with the worst motivations are more prepared. Evil plans, conceives, and acts, while those who are well meaning, trying to do the right things and live and let live, aren't either expecting it, for that would be too paranoic to face getting up in the morning, and who wants to even try to survive in a world like that, if that is what it is.

Also, it is always right under our noses, these plans and warnings. The advertising all around us puts the symbolism of it in plain sight. They consider this, I think, somewhat a "fair" warning, but it's also a joke upon us, the unsuspecting, for they view those who just want to live and "do the right thing," as stupid, plain and simple, because what they are motivated by and inform their lives by is it is a game, and they intend fully to win, and that means total domination. Total power. And the less of us there are, only the strongest to be used for hard labor, the easier the situation is to control.

Now I realize this is a hard, jagged pill to swallow. And who really wants to regard this world this way, and get up in the morning, get married, fall in love, have children, buy a house, plan for a future in a place like what I describe. Absolutely no one...unless you are part of the cadre I and the OP describe. But make no mistake, those folks are out there, dedicate their lives to it, and look forward to times when they rule the streets and can do absolutely whatever they want to other human beings in broad daylight, with nothing and no one to stop them.

They have long been making "humanity" seem deficient and as though it needs to be controlled, while they are the ones fomenting the divisive climate, using religion, politics, and whatever else at their disposal. Mark my words: Pol Pot, the Cultural Revolution, where professionals were put in reeducation camps, or killed, and books were burned, and all intellectualism was rejected and considered what corrupted, was just practice for what is coming to our shores here.

Hope I am wrong. Pray I am wrong. But I would advise all to be prepared, and be very careful whom you align yourself with. Trust no one. For all are just pawns in the game of the gamers, controllers. Trust no one, prepare, and develop your life skillls to the nth degree, that is, if you want to survive what will come. But, I believe there will still be remote places, and ways to hide and survive and hope for and fight for better times, where we regain what we may already have lost. But the sun rises everday. And in that, at least, there is always hope.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 08:58 PM
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Oh, where to start.

You mean how FDR permanently trashed the constitution? Confiscating private property(gold) so the gov could sell it at a higher price? How he established Central Planning control of the economy with wage and price controls, some of which still exist? How he handed control of the United States over to the wall street front company the Federal Reserve Corporation? How the federal government permenantly usurped states sovereignty with the trap of federal grants?

oh and lets not forget how the 30's and the depression really ended, that little thing called WORLD WAR TWO, the atomic bomb, SEVENTY MILLION DEAD +/- and the creation of the proto-nwo: the UNITED NATIONS.
the 30's were just peachy, with no long term ill effects-sarc>
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posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 09:42 PM
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''A one world Government is simply not possible '' that must be the dumbest staement ive ever seen on ATS



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 09:59 PM
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reply to [url=http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread932906/pg1#pid16071530]post by kyviecaldI Believe He Is Just stated his opinion to aware people of what is come to come so hyou



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by oldkawguy
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Oh Geez Your going to hurt my feeling's. So this is your defenition of a massive contribution ? This is, your words, insightful and informing ? I don't B.S. much, as you can see by my only 29 insightful and informing posts. But I will stand behind anything that I said, and tell you if you need to know, and it was not me, who the hell did say it. You see, I unlike you don't run around with my tail between my legs.

Don't forget my friend, this is still the greatest country in the world.

So while ur digging your hole, or cleaning out your bank account, or what ever it is you would do to keep the the Army from getting you.

I'll be crackin another cold one and puting on some ZZ top, flipping the burger's so they don't smoke to much and give away my location, so the Army don't think I'am eating.


Oh where to begin with you... how about the fact that it was you that was going to "quit this site" because of a thread someone started. So who has their tail between their legs?
Also what standard are you using to measure the greatest country in the world by? Their economy? USA is #2. Places to live? USA is so far down the list I won't mention it. How about largest industrial output? Nope #2 again. The only #1's left are things that aren't meant to be proud of, with maybe the exception of military might.

There is a fine line between being overly patriotic and being completely delusional.

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posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 11:14 PM
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well, of all the forums where they would trace the identities of people (say...of a more...higher ethical moral character that wouldn't kiss ass to a corrupt government), i just hope youtube isn't one of them.

I recently joined ATS to start posting although I've been going to ATS for my daily news for years now, but so far i haven't posted anything....patriotic. But youtube...o boy,if you knew the things I've written on those comment sections, you'd be electing me for president of the U.S. or leader of Earth's Revolutionary Army( i just came up with that..hmm....yea that's what I'll name it should the time come
) cause I have a very strong sense of justice and of what needs to be done, and all of my idealistic views are the stuff of nightmares for all those money hungry corporations, power hungry dictators and blood thirsty warlords.

So basically, I'd like to ask something, is youtube considered a forum, if so, i guess I've been red flagged about a hundred times already...lol the ironic thing is, that I've now written my first post on ATS that reveals my nature and what goes on in my head no less.., so if youtube wasn't considered a forum and they never bothered to look there, then that means i just self exposed myself to any government paid employe who's reading this, aaargh w.e, who cares anyways, I'll always stay true to my ideals no matter what, cause my heart tells me they are right and not my brain.

And to close my first "patriotic" post in ATS i have a few personal words of wisdom that you may fall asleep reading through

.....everything we see now as reality started as an idea, both the good and the bad, so when some say "an idealistic view/dream", it doesn't mean day-dreaming and/or/with impossible aspirations or wishful thinking, or thinking unrealistically like an immature child, it just means an idea that is desired to be set loose on the world and make it a reality through hard work, effort, determination and commitment, striving forward to make that wish come true, no matter the obstacles, no matter how intense the pain, sorrow, fear and despair may be that will lie ahead trying to hinder its progress, cause in the end, all we have to remember are the ones before us that went through the same ordeal and came out triumphant, and what do those of us idealist have in common with them you ask? it ain't blood lines, it ain't nationality, it doesn't even have to be a bond of friendship, it's simple really....(this last bit comes from Steve Jobs) we push the human race forward, while some may see us as the crazy ones, others will see genius, because the ones who are crazy enough to think that they can change the world, are the ones who do....in other words if you say "i want to save the world" and somebody calls you crazy, wear it like a badge of honor.
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posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Hopechest

Originally posted by MRuss
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No one is saying that Sarah Brady is Queen of the NWO.

There is no such thing.

But there are many, many people who would like to see America undermined for various reasons.

If you study the history of the NWO, (and I mean, really take a look before commenting)

It may all make some sense to you.


I have and it doesn't. Do you actually know how long that conspiracy has existed and has yet to come to fruition?

I will tell you this, it would have been alot easier to implement a few hundred years ago then it is today.



That part cannot be true. The masses had the same weapons as the government, swords, muskets, whichever. So therefore with equal arms, numbers win. Today the masses have firearms. The other side has tanks, drones, aircraft, bombs, nukes, technology etc that we do not have, therefore it would be much easier today. Consider sending 1000 troops with ar's and tanks back in time to the days of swords. The troops would take out millions before they could ever get in arms reach. 1000 troops with this days tech beats 1 million with swords. It is not a fair nor equal fight like it was years ago when everyone on both sides had the same stuff.

Now with that said. I do see how things are getting worse, but for them to implement this if they even could would take a long time.


Gs



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 11:41 PM
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Originally posted by ProjectAlice

Originally posted by Murgatroid

Last year I did some digging around on this subject to see how far back I could trace this.

I became convinced that it goes all the way back to the beginning.


As did I. This has been going on for thousands of years. The difference now is that they have the technologies, tools, weapons, organization, and useful idiots to make a play for the endgame and make it happen. It's been a long time in the works, and they are very near to completion.


How right you are. Frequently, I consider writing a thread about what i believe was a biblical conspiracy to fuel much of what is happening now. And believe me, it would be diametrically different than anything that has been written in that forum so far.
Now, I am not usuallly faint of heart, about warnings or even speaking my mind.....but I hesitate here. Should we be silent and hope to live to fight another day, if there will even be one when the dust has settled. I wrestle with this daily.
You see, you can know truth, and if you care about anyone, say a child, it's only something you can be held hostage by, not to mention that the closer to the truth you are the more you are held hostage by your public persona, for those in charge will render you crazy, unbelieveable and even worse, just so no one will listen or ever believe you, or worse---judge you for something they can make you appear to be when you are nothing like this whatsoever. It's called being a hostage to the truth.
So, what to do......
But appreciated your words, anyhow.



posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 11:43 PM
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But trust me, you write about this, you’ll be called a kook. It’s up to you, it’s your reputation, not mine. And speaking about that, you do know that this crew is using the internet to ruin people, right? They are paying people to infiltrate discussion sites and forums to call people like you idiots. Show me the proof they say. Why doesn’t you source come forward? If he knows so much, why not go to Fox or the media? To them, if it’s not broadcast on CNN, it’s not real. Well, they’ve got it backwards. Very little on the news is real. The stock market, the economy, the last presidential polls, very little is real. But this crew is really internet savvy. They’ve got a lot of people they pay to divert issues on forums, to mock people, to marginalize them. They know what they’re doing. People think they’ll take sites down – hack them. Why do that when they are more effective to infiltrate the discussion? Think about the birth certificate, I mean the eligibility problem of Obama. Perfect example.


you know...that sounds AWFULLY familiar....

but then again, we already knew ATS was infiltrated.
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posted on Mar, 13 2013 @ 11:48 PM
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This reminds me of that movie,...what was it?...


Resident Evil !


To the OP, you sure you dont work in Hollywood?



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:25 AM
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You can say two things. It's not gonna happen or.... We'll see.

I'm always willing to see if something will take place. It's right around the corner so no use in fighting. Either it will or it will not happen. But you should not speak on judgement until said time passes.

Don't be nave.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:45 AM
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I have been saying for months now that the US is being taken in a political coup.

Here is a post I made about it, and some of the reasons I believe it.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The same reasons still stand, and many I left out. More can be added every week.

People ask why? What is the motive? What motive did any leader have when they tried to oppress their people and take over their country? From Hitler, to Stalin, you name the guy, what was their motive? Drunk on power, a few screws loose, personally flawed idealogies completely out of synch with normalcy, and you have a frightening mix.

When you toss in the right balance of people that buy into for their own personal reasons, you have a bunch of people, all using each other, to acheive their personal goals, none of which matches their leader, but they go along for the ride for the perceived personal gain.

It is not really any different than any other cult of personality, except for the fact that some, or even many, are so blinded by their own greed, they have no idea of that which they do.

Now, all of these things certainly were not started by Obama, but he sure has perpetuated them. Even that, he has done at the dismay of his own supporters and voters. Yet, they continue to support and vote. Why? Supporters are made promises. Some kept, some not, but all invariably lead to some sort of financial gain. The same goes for his voters. Everyone wants something. Goods, money, fame, notoriety. Something. Greed is the blanket, and Obama is the person handing them out.

Who can blame him, afterall, for taking advantage of the pieces that were already there for him? And, the ones that were not, he has carefully crafted to be there, and almost always at the direction of someone else. Why is he never to blame? Because he lets other people do the dirty work, and then take the fall if it goes south. Very crafty, really. Holder would take the fall for Fast and Furious. Hillary for Benghazi. But when things go right, who takes the credit? Every. Single. Time. People even stand back, oftentimes in amazement, and exclaim, "But Obama had nothing to do with that!" Are you so sure? Really?

A political coup is obvious if you stand back and see the signs. Why else would Obama even make such statements as,

"I am not a dictator."
"This would actually be a whole lot easier if this was China."
"I am not the King, unfortunately..."
"The Pope doesn't take orders from me."

Now, lets start small, and work up.

Patriot Act
NDAA
Drone Kill list

And from my post I linked above (I know most of you didn't click on it, I linked it more for proof of posting date than anything):


The military has been demasculinated, and the process is continuing. How many
Generals and Admirals have been removed? I have lost count. We can no longer refuel
our ships due to the cost, yet we can send millions in aide to the muslim bro hood?


Now, we can add one more military head down, some questionable appointments, and our ships in port while we hand Syria 60 million, Egypt 165 million and tanks, planes and weaponry. Yet, we cannot refuel our ships yet, this time due to a sequester Obama said he would veto if anyone tried to change. Then blamed... someone else. He then has lied multitudes of times, along with Napolitano and other government heads about the proposed effects, been called out on it, yet still lies. Blatant and in your face lies.


The nuclear arsenal is being taken down, the armed forces are facing dramatic cuts,
weakening our defences, military pay is being threatened, and soldiers health
insurance may go up even higher, forcing out even more.


This, too, has only worsened. Military personnel will now be cut due to the fake sequester, Obamacare will affect everyone, including our military. How many times has this administration tried to pass bills where the military would have to pay theif own medical care? Twice.

Meantime, we weaken our military structure, worsen morale, and we have NK and Russia dancing around like idiots. Especially NK.

If you need more evidence, read my post. I could point out more, but I will end with, "The dollar is back!"

Yeah buddy, and gold is dropping.

You think this is by mistake? Think again. All of it is by design, and all of those gold buyers will be crying when it sinks to 300.00 again. But, Obama isn't done with us, not by a long shot, and there will be some rude awakenings. Soon, I am afraid. The cracks are beginning, but he is already smoozing republicans in his "charm offensive" to try to fix that. Will it work, or will the Emperor finally be seen for what he is?

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posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:53 AM
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Why ,that would be the logical end to the Cloward -Piven strategy which the POTUS is executing on the country...oh shoot,now you might have to learn something by reading.
Sorry.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 12:59 AM
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He is the product of a continuing intelligence operation, put in power to oversee the dismantling of the U.S., with the economy being the lynchpin of our destruction


If Obama wanted to destroy the economy he would have let it collapse when he came into office instead of rescuing employers and cutting peoples' payroll taxes to give them a break.

And we've been hearing hype about hyperinflation from conservatives for years now always insisting that it will start imminently, but it never does of course.



posted on Mar, 14 2013 @ 01:02 AM
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With a one world central bank and complete monetary control your power is unlimited. You print the money, you set the prices & minimum wages. The legislative arm would set policy accordingly.

But to get there, you will need to acquire as much debt from each nation you could while polarizing them. Without this, ROME happens. With it, ROME will continue where it left off.



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