ATS Exclusive - Turkey UFO Incident - New Details - A Fresh Look At The Kumburgaz Case 2007 to 2009

Originally posted by draknoir2
Clearly the most likely explanation requiring the least number of wild assumptions.

Agreed. I added some more pictures to compare. I wonder to what degree popular culture influences our perceptions?
I must concede that the famous "Greg Brady Hoax" does not hold up under scrutiny.

reply to post by ArMaP


Well Jupiter is very bright so for example here is a very overexposed moon with Jupiter very near closer than it was when the supposed ufo video was taken and it shows no problem



More examples different cameras used from p&s to HD

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

I must concede that the famous "Greg Brady Hoax" does not hold up under scrutiny.

The sheer size of the flashlight and bed sheet that would be required makes it impractical, at best.

Originally posted by draknoir2

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

I must concede that the famous "Greg Brady Hoax" does not hold up under scrutiny.

The sheer size of the flashlight and bed sheet that would be required makes it impractical, at best.

True that! However, if we examine the original assumptions:

1. A hologram
2. A balloon and alien prop cleverly set up in the dark of night to hide the string and boat underneath it.
3. A government operation cleverly set up for psychhological operations.

We can see that the "Greg Brady Hoax" does fit into this scenerio rather nicely. One could easily add:

"4. A giant flashlight cleverly shined through a UFO shaped cutout onto a giant sheet."

We then could easily imagine a giant balloon instead of a sheet with a hologram projected onto this using secret Turkish government technology to psychologically fool or scare a small group of villagers instead of Bobby and Peter.

Please find an explanation for this

After that please find an explanation for this.

Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Please find an explanation for this

in all honesty, and I don't mean to be so blunt about it, but that is a truly ambiguous image so the best explaination that I can possibly come up with is that it's entirely your imagination that there is more to that image.

The image you have there is completly out of context from all the other images of the same "event". It could be anything from a camera artifact to a boat to an alien ship with a malfunctioning warp drive.

Originally posted by CigaretteMan
After that please find an explanation for this.

huh, we'll...I guess that blew my first theory out of the water.

If anyone wants to analyze the original footage

All the videos are here

Original Footage 2007 to 2009 Collection

Originally posted by CigaretteMan
If anyone wants to analyze the original footage

All the videos are here

Original Footage 2007 to 2009 Collection

edit on 15-3-2013 by CigaretteMan because: (no reason given)

Here is an analysis

Originally posted by ZetaRediculian

Originally posted by CigaretteMan
If anyone wants to analyze the original footage

All the videos are here

Original Footage 2007 to 2009 Collection

edit on 15-3-2013 by CigaretteMan because: (no reason given)

Here is an analysis

Again you have nothing new, just repeating the same old tired posts.
You are not interested in having a discussion.

I will give you 1 more chance to have an adult conversation.

I am seconds away from putting you on ignore, its not worth the time reading or responding to your silly posts which resemble that of a comedian.

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It's clearly the Enterprise D during saucer separation..

Reply to this post if you are interested in discussing this case seriously and not making yourself look ridiculous like zetaridiculan

Were are all the old school ATSers to chime in?

What the heck has happened to this forum we all call ATS?

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If it's was stabilized correctly it would have removed the bobbing motion too.

So obviously the software failed. And if it failed, we can't trust ANY movement in this video.

Is there a new rule on ATS now that 1 line posts are allowed now?

Ok 1 video at a time.

Everyone focus on this video. You can see movement as the light moves right to left underneath the moon.

What is it?

What has happened in the last four years with this case? More squinting at blurry pixels? This case is dead, with nothing more to be gained from it. It didn't usher in a grand new age of understanding of anything. Even if you never bought an explanation -- one way or another -- it still just rolled over and died and left nothing but a smelly carcass to pick over.

Such is the state of UFO "research."

Originally posted by CigaretteMan

Again you have nothing new, just repeating the same old tired posts.
You are not interested in having a discussion.

I will give you 1 more chance to have an adult conversation.

I am seconds away from putting you on ignore, its not worth the time reading or responding to your silly posts which resemble that of a comedian.

How dare you threaten to put me on ignore!

I am most certainly interested in discussing this however, you have not responded to my simple questions.

1. Where is the evidence that this is a flying anything?
2. Why are the witnesses in only one small area?
3. Why is there no footage of military craft attempting to intercept this and after 26 days?
4. Why didn't anyone think to hop in a boat and get a closer view?
5. Where was Greg Brady at the time of the event?
6. Why this case? There are many many good cases that aren't hoaxes.

You have not provided anything new whatsoever! Nothing! You attack me as if a child being tormented by a bored parent.

Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Is there a new rule on ATS now that 1 line posts are allowed now?

no

Originally posted by CigaretteMan
Ok 1 video at a time.

Everyone focus on this video. You can see movement as the light moves right to left underneath the moon.

What is it?

what makes you think that it's related to the other pictures of the boat you keep posting?