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Originally posted by Rezlooper
Originally posted by woodwardjnr
reply to post by Night Star
I think it's important that us "survivors" (I hate that word). Maintain a presence in these types of threads, to put some perspective on the matter. As you say, you don't know what you will do until you hear the dreaded words.
It's very easy to talk about doing the alternative route and evil doctors while you are fit and healthy.
My father-in-law was not healthy and he made a choice. He had to stop up to 10 times during one urination. He had constant pain from the right side of his groin through to his back. He barely slept at night, waking up all night long either with pain or having to urinate, which he spent minutes trying. Doctors told him, although slow moving, it was at the stage that any day now it was going to spread to his bones and recommended treatment start right away, but at least within a couple of months because G said he needed time to think. He would live at the most...4 years if he did nothing, which means he probably would have only lived another two years. He had the courage to try the plan and stick with it 100%, and he is beating it. He went to a different doctor this afternoon and received good news. The doctor, who had no idea he had already been diagnosed with cancer, told him that he had an average enlarged prostate for a 70-year old man, and that it was smooth and soft. They took his PSA test and as soon as those results are in I am going to post them here with the doctors prognosis of the prostate gland. I'm also going to post the original diagnosis as well, so you will all see that he cured his cancer in 3 weeks. His original doctor, upon the rectal exam, told him he had major swelling on the right side and it was rough and hard. In 3 weeks, it is now normal, smooth and soft! Congrats G!
Originally posted by Rezlooper
reply to post by Night Star
Knowing that others have had chemo and radiation and are still alive after 20 and 30 years... Yes, I made the decision to trust those nasty money hungry doctor's. and the torture of chemo and radiation.
Congrats, you beat it. But, do you speak for all those who have died?
Originally posted by Night Star
reply to post by thepolish1
He doesn't like doctors, and you swear by them, I myself, only go if I absolutly have to.
My husband was like that years ago, ended up in the hospital and being diagnosed with diabetes, extremely high cholesterol and blood pressure. Doctors were amazed he was still alive. He was a time bomb waiting to go off.
Would you rather get bad news but a chance to deal with it and be well, or wait until it's too late and you have no options left.
Every year 40,000 men are diagnosed with prostate cancer — and more than 10,000 die from it.
Treatment can cause anxiety and side-effects such as impotence and incontinence. Many ask: what would the experts do in my shoes?
In a remarkable coincidence, three of the UK’s leading experts reveal that they, too, have the cancer and here they talk about their experiences . . .
John Anderson, 59, is an internationally respected consultant urological surgeon at the Royal Hallamshire Hospital, Sheffield.
A year ago John was diagnosed with advanced prostate cancer — the most serious type; he has had hormone treatment and chemotherapy to contain it
Damian Hanbury, 56, is a consultant urologist at the Lister Hospital, Stevenage, and is married to Helen, with whom he has three children (who are in their early 20s).
He was diagnosed with prostate cancer which had spread just outside the prostate (‘locally advanced’) in 2010, and underwent radiotherapy and hormone treatment.
Professor Roger Kirby, 62, and his wife Jane have three children (aged 21 to 27), and live in South-West London.
A Professor of Urology at the University of London, he was diagnosed with moderately aggressive cancer last September and underwent a radical prostatectomy in December.
Originally posted by lacrimaererum
This tells a different story to the MYTHS that even the experts would not touch the treatment they are recommending to patients.
Survival rates for localised cancer when cancer has not spread and can be treated with surgery are more than 90 per cent; that drops slightly to 70-80 per cent for those with cancer, like mine, that’s extended outside the capsule of the prostate or into the ejaculatory structures. Where the cancer has spread to other organs or nearby bones, the rates drop to a disappointing 20-30 per cent — which is why early diagnosis is so important. link
I think you’ve outed him for what he is.
Originally posted by RezlooperMany, many people die every day from your mainstream medicine, but you don’t want to acknowledge that at all. You don’t want to say that there are some flaws with it, because you say it saved your life, but what about the countless others that it has failed? When doctors tell someone they have terminal cancer and there’s nothing we can do, why don’t they at least suggest trying an alternative method because at that point, what does someone have to lose? They won’t tell them this because it could prove to work, and OMG, what then?
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You may have made this up just to get onto another thread and trash it as you do best. I have no idea anything about who you really are. You may be some government shill sitting in your dark and gloomy home office with the world’s best hardware and software at your fingertips because the government supplied it to you, so that you can do exactly what you do here at ATS, thread kill! Making up your story about cancer would fit perfectly, because if you hadn’t beaten cancer you’d have less credibility to come on this thread and trash talk the way you are. Am I right? Why don’t you show some evidence that you had cancer and beat it with your science? It's even been suggested that I made this up, lol, I will show the evidence that we've beaten cancer.
Originally posted by lacrimaererum
Very relevant story published in one of today's papers.
This tells a different story to the MYTHS that even the experts would not touch the treatment they are recommending to patients.
Its very easy to say in a survey that you would not take medical treatment when you are not
Originally posted by Katie
Research more on the internet, you will find they say to have more garlic and salt in your diet with cancer. Salt has iodine a known cancer treatment cure they use for I want to say throat cancer..
Wasn't it Iodine pills they were handing out for radiation poisoning after 9/11?
Much guessing going on here.
Originally posted by angkory13
reply to post by Rezlooper
Take a look at this site:
simoncini-cancer-center.com...
Simplicity is the answer
"I understand well the pain of cancer patients, as i used to work at a child cancer center and all children there died. It was painful to me seeing innocent children being submitted to chemo and radiotherapy and die one by one" These are the words from Dr. Tullio Simoncini.
According to the Cancer Treatment Watch Web site, "[Dr. Simoncini] has been using unsubstantiated cancer treatments for 15 years… in 2003, his [Italian] license to practice medicine was withdrawn, and in 2006 he was convicted by an Italian judge for wrongful death and swindling… This has not stopped him from continuing to provide his controversial treatments, not only in Italy, but apparently also in foreign countries, such as the Netherlands."
Be Wary of Simoncini Cancer Therapy
Since you are a large fan of stats, how about comparing the number of surviving cancer victims on this site who have received conventional treatment versus those who went the complimentary medicine route? I have asked this question numerous times and I don't believe I have ever heard from an ATS member who successfully cured their own cancer using the latter...maybe one...maybe. You have at least three contributors to this thread who are alive today because of conventional medicine. Something to consider, I'd say.
Originally posted by Macdon
I think you’ve outed him for what he is.
Why doesn’t he quote the success rate of the surgery/chemotherapy/radiotherapy option? It has been quoted as 3% maximum. In fact an oncologist recently quoted it to a friend as 5%. Great statistic huh? Simply brilliant! My friend said no and is now starting to regret the operation on a slow growing bowel cancer.
Originally posted by lacrimaererum
reply to post by Rezlooper
if you have a serious electrical problem in your house its best to call an electrician.an expert. if you try and fix it yourself you might get electrocuted or burn your house down,
the world of cancer is not a pretty one.
there is no silver bullet.
but its best to listen to the experts.