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Originally posted by jiggysmb
Guys, the 1.6 billion is an ignorance of the contract terms. "1600M" was the contracted amount. M = 50 in the government contract book. That would be 80,000 rounds of ammo. Not really much at all.
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The government's explanation is less sinister. Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
Originally posted by seabag
Originally posted by jiggysmb
Guys, the 1.6 billion is an ignorance of the contract terms. "1600M" was the contracted amount. M = 50 in the government contract book. That would be 80,000 rounds of ammo. Not really much at all.
Oh really? Maybe you should share this great knowledge with the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center.
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The government's explanation is less sinister. Federal solicitations to buy the ammo are known as "strategic sourcing contracts," which help the government get a low price for a big purchase, says Peggy Dixon, spokeswoman for the Federal Law Enforcement Training Center in Glynco, Ga. The training center and others like it run by the Homeland Security Department use as many as 15 million rounds every year, mostly on shooting ranges and in training exercises.
I don't think 80,000 rounds would get DHS past lunch time.
edit on 6-3-2013 by seabag because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by tkwasny
The number reported 1600M you might think means 1600 million, which is 1.6 billion. The QUP abbreviation (Quantity Unit Pack) "M" = 50. The purchase order was for 1600 boxes of 50. Page 29 of the Defense Customer Assistance Handbook list what Federal Govt QUP abbreviations represent.
Wow you seem to question everything but surely show your ignorance on the topic. Dispute everyone's input but fail to read the terms of the contract like everyone else repeating "1.6 billion" to continue fear mongering. Look up the contract handbook. I would give you a link but it seems someone needs to practice their google skills.
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ICE's ammunition requests in the last year included:
--450 million rounds of .40-caliber duty ammunition
--40 million rounds of rifle ammunition a year for as many as five years, for a total bullet-buy of 200 million rounds
--176,000 rifle rounds on a separate contract
--25,000 blank rounds
Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by mc4denmark
reply to post by Hopechest
What makes you think that this economic crisis just will go away? This could be a crisis that can't go away, simply because we are to many ! The capitalistic ideology cant continue like it have done, because we lack the resources and the debts are getting to high for most people.
And do you think that the elites just want to give up all their wealth and control for the betterment of you and me? Think again.
I fail to see what purpose locking up people does.
Your not going to lock up 300 million people so don't you think those that are still outside are going to be kinda pissed that their families and friends are being rounded up?
Unless you talking about the total elimination of the American populace so that only a few elites remain than this scenario makes absolutely no sense.
Originally posted by MysterX
Originally posted by Hopechest
Originally posted by mc4denmark
reply to post by Hopechest
What makes you think that this economic crisis just will go away? This could be a crisis that can't go away, simply because we are to many ! The capitalistic ideology cant continue like it have done, because we lack the resources and the debts are getting to high for most people.
And do you think that the elites just want to give up all their wealth and control for the betterment of you and me? Think again.
I fail to see what purpose locking up people does.
Your not going to lock up 300 million people so don't you think those that are still outside are going to be kinda pissed that their families and friends are being rounded up?
Unless you talking about the total elimination of the American populace so that only a few elites remain than this scenario makes absolutely no sense.
You don't have to lock up or re-educate 300 Million.
Look at history, and see how many millions of people were hoodwinked.
You'd need to execute a few thousand 'Domestic terrorists', lock up a few hundred thousand more and re-educate them.
A well thought out, psychological propaganda campaign against the people, will either get them on side, or instil the fear 'they will be next if they speak out' and will passify the huge majority of the rest.
It's been done many time before, and ultimately it usually results in millions dead and a period of complete panic where the majority of Citizens will do exactly as they're told, being grateful they are not in a grave or locked away in some hell hole.
For families, the terror will be several degree worse of course.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by TDawgRex
Have you not considered that the plastic coffins are combustible . In fact they would help handle multiple bodies at one time and add fuel to the fire aiding in the cremation .
Originally posted by nighthawk1954
This is very scary stuff. And it tells you what those 1.6 billion bullets will be used for.
What is going on in this country?!?
www.youtube.com...
Originally posted by tide88
Originally posted by nighthawk1954
This is very scary stuff. And it tells you what those 1.6 billion bullets will be used for.
What is going on in this country?!?
www.youtube.com...
Nice. Except the 1.6 billion bullets is a completely wrong number and they are actually using those bullets not stockpiling them.
Check govliquidation.com and you can see them selling the spent casing on many of those bullets. They auction off millions of spent casings daily.
Gov selling spent bullet casings. They are not stockpiling any bullets