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Originally posted by LeonDBelfort
if you actually try to get possessed by Satan, nothing happens...I WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED...but perhaps I am sharing too much about personal things
Originally posted by Doomcake
But I love 80's music! New Order, Tears for fears, they weren't all that Satanic were they? oh wait...
Originally posted by trig_grl
Make no mistake...Satanism is alive and well and going strong in 2013.
I just had a 2 day ordeal with a friend of mine who's wife's father is a
very prominent businessman and owns one of the most reputable online
Schools here in the southwest...he is also a key figure in the Mormon church
And is a satanist who is involved in some very disturbing things. Trying to figure out
How stop this monster is just about impossible as law enforcement and high officials
Are involved as well. Not a good situation at all.
Originally posted by Foobler
Originally posted by trig_grl
Make no mistake...Satanism is alive and well and going strong in 2013.
I just had a 2 day ordeal with a friend of mine who's wife's father is a
very prominent businessman and owns one of the most reputable online
Schools here in the southwest...he is also a key figure in the Mormon church
And is a satanist who is involved in some very disturbing things. Trying to figure out
How stop this monster is just about impossible as law enforcement and high officials
Are involved as well. Not a good situation at all.
That's crazy, you should start a thread about it.
(I'm) not from USA and therefor not familiar with strong Christian feelings or is there a new radical religious wave which a thriving because of the economic crisis?
Originally posted by Astyanax
reply to post by HamP1980
(I'm) not from USA and therefor not familiar with strong Christian feelings or is there a new radical religious wave which a thriving because of the economic crisis?
No, this kind of thing is normal in America. Don't forget that it is a nation founded and largely built by religious obsessives—a brief glance at its history will show you that.
Christianity has taken some very dark turns since it was transplanted to North America. The 'evangelical' churches of the South and West quickly abandoned the basic elements of the faith—the Creed, the Apostolic Succession, even the Eucharist—and created a new, degenerate form of Christianity based on worship of the Bible (though only of selected parts of it, like Genesis and Revelation; the bulk of the text is largely ignored) and belief in a personal, magical relationship between the individual and God that is a million miles away from the community spirit that lies at the heart of all forms of Old World Christianity, whether Orthodox, Roman or Protestant.
In place of that communion of believers, the American cults put snake-handling, faith-healing, speaking in tongues, exorcism and other spectacular rituals that combined shamanistic abandon with high entertainment value.
Well, at least, those old-time cults had value as folk culture. Now they have been subsumed in giant consumer 'churches' peddling the illusion of salvation and 'community'—the latter no longer the inclusive community of genuine Christianity, but one that is defined by whom it excludes—liberals, homosexuals, independent women, scientists, intellectuals and any other group that threatens the rigid, brittle little fantasy world in which these cult adherents live.
Obviously, only people who believe in God fear the Devil. But most Christians nowadays are uninterested in this nonsense—they see Satanism as a joke, a kind of game, which may have negative moral or psychological effects on those who play it but has no magical or supernatural component to it at all. The post-Christian cultists, however, not only believe in the Devil but feel constantly threatened by him—because, as you point out, the real Devil is inside themselves.
So they project their fears and secret desires onto the willing scapegoats of the entertainment industry, who happily play up to this rubbish because there's money in it. Wouldn't you?
In an interview with Q, an English music magazine, Marilyn Manson was asked whether he really took his image and get-up seriously. Manson—who is a highly astute individual—simply laughed and said that he did not expect his antics to be taken seriously by his fans in the UK and elsewhere in the world. They were solely intended to cause controversy, and therefore boost concert and record sales, in America.
The believers in a Satan-infiltrated music industry are simply driving the kids into the arms of the artists they so abhor. I find that ironic. I also heartily approve. What is rock 'n' roll about if not annoying parents and shocking authority figures?
Originally posted by Mortalhelix
So strange, many people seem to notice that it (satanism,demons,possessions) have been a consistent part of our history for the last century (and much longer) but instead of finding that strange or odd and pursuing it, they make fun of it and explain it away with the simplest black and white answers. For it would shatter their fragile little minds if something like this were even remotely true. Anything will suffice to tuck the bad thoughts away and get back to their regular scheduled programming.
You "explain" away an incident here and there and think all situations from then on are treated similar with no further examinations required. This isn't just a few decades worth of activity, it's alwaysbeen there in some way shape or form.
Curious to know just how many people starting these threads or commenting have really looked into this "area"? Do that first then comment, otherwise you are just creating more confusion on a topic already heavily confused.
Originally posted by daskakik
Someone commented that he actually tried to sell his soul and nothing happened. Is that a good enough look in this "area".
Someone commented that he actually tried to sell his soul and nothing happened. Is that a good enough look in this "area".
Originally posted by Mortalhelix
So strange, many people seem to notice that it (satanism,demons,possessions) have been a consistent part of our history for the last century (and much longer)
Originally posted by daskakik
reply to post by Mortalhelix
But the case isn't closed as far as I'm concerned. I just don't believe the answers provided so far.