Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

reply to post by MamaJ


They are meant to be 'Gods horses', or something along those lines. Marys Chariot.

I looked into the Greek Mythology behind them this morning, but it was as much bad as good.

reply to post by BornOfSin


You still haven't told us how has religion detracted you from your evolution and your understanding.
Your claims are still unsubstantiated based on your subjective personal experience and your experience does not negate other peoples experience or knowledge.

When do you believe religious faith ever held us back from ascension to the true nature of our conscious connection with all things?

How has it detracted you from your evolution and your understanding?
Not answering questions does not serve to give validity.


You did actually did say, and I quoted you accurately “I don't wish to bother having to analyse the legitimacy of other peoples experiences. “

I pointed out that your experience of having an aggressive ERRATIC moving ball of orange light means the right left yes / no communication would have been unclear. And one way mind access you allowed to these beings that had said they wanted to eat you would not be a reasonable response for an intelligent person.

You told us you were in contact with a small minority of 'aggressive' member of the species. But how did you know these aggressive ones are the minority of the species ,and you did not know that when you consented to their one way mind access. We as a race have a controlling minority but you think(want to believe) Annuki don’t.


You said “You must also let go of the 'God-man' concept given by religion as a catalyst of learning towards the 'nature of God'. “
So you are telling people to let go of the idea of the supreme person. No ascended masters have been prevented by religious faith.

Surely you would’ve been trying to end Annuki seeded concepts and ideas(NWO’s) not just the one concept that has been used by ascended masters to aid in self realization.
Shouldn’t you be telling them to find out who they are before they even start worrying about the nature of God.

‘Subjective opinion in experience is a fantastic premise but it fails to offer an expansion on how you came to your conclusions. This is quite obviously because your opinion is limited to speculation void of reasoning, regarding the matter. ‘
Then you said Don't tell people, that I don't know what I am talking about, that I am deceiving, or lying, narrow-minded, dismissive and a tad arrogant.
OK.

Love peace and light

I read as far into that last reply as I needed to, to see you ignored a question (I've asked 3 times) and instead replied with your own questions. Beyond being evasive, and dismissive, this is very rude. It displays arrogance and conceit.

Accordingly; I completely disregarded the rest of your post; as I will with all your opinions and posts from now on.

Bye now.

Check u2u. Finally got it written...in brief lol.

"Those with no valid argument; argue semantics."

The irony of semantics is that by attempting to use someones language to contradict 'their message'; it only proves you failed to understand that message.

reply to post by BornOfSin


Once I began to learn about all of this, I became fascinated with having out of body experiences, as that was the only way that I thought I could find more of the truth I was looking for. Obviously I couldn't find forums with threads such as this to talk about it, and therefore put it to the higher consciousness to help me understand it all. I do my best to see the beauty and divinity in everyone/everything. I no longer see in duality, simply that we are all part of an immense thing called existence. We become conscious and learn about what we are, which is to say, existence itself, observing self through each others' perspectives and understanding. Although I see everything as happening for a reason, and am no longer as obsessed as I was when I first started on my journey, I am still very interested in OBE's/Soul Travel.


My questions to you and your contacts are:
1. What is your take on a shift of the planet in density and what that means for us? I've gathered that a certain percent of people are at a high enough vibration/consciousness to ascend with mother earth and that the other portion will be relocated to another 3d world to finish out this incarnation. I've also read that when Gaia ascends, like it or not we ALL ascend with her. If so I think this would require a massive EUREKA moment of awakening on a global scale. It seems that there are more people that believe in the illusion than not. Your thoughts?
2. What information can you share with us about, as you called them before, "pseudosciences"? I've had telepathic experiences before, albeit somewhat sporadic and normally only between myself and closest friends (which I attribute to us being around each other often enough to "be on the same wavelength"). I have experienced telekinesis only in (for a lack of a better way to put it) astral travel. The same goes for teleportation. I can do it while existing out of body, and I'm wondering what can be done to bring these abilities into my physical reality? Is it even possible to manifest these abilities here in our 3d space/time?
3. I've been relying heavily on intuition since becoming aware of the truth of our existence and it's told me to wait and continue learning. I don't work because I refuse to play into the system crafted by TPTB. My job, I feel, is to spread love to the people I encounter and deal with on a daily basis in order to do my part in raising awareness. Is there anything I can do other than this to help other selves along the way? Or is it enough KNOWING that everything happens exactly as it should and be patient still.. I hope I don't come off as someone looking for someone/something to follow, I'm just curious of your perspective.

As I've typed this I have become aware of a discontentment within myself.. I see the signs all around us that validate what I've come to know, but I feel like I still want more, to see more, to experience more... probably impatience on my part. *Sigh* Alas I resign to wait some more, content in the knowledge that it'll happen when the time is right.

Thanks for this thread mate! Hope you are well and I look forward to your response

reply to post by BornOfSin


sheesh! what is a bloody 408/409 error?

Anyway, hi born of sin. still no "house calls" but hopefully as I continue to look I might one day be able to reply to in in the affimative

reply to post by joeyv23


I am not 'aware' of any truths relating to any type of planetary 'ascension', but it is possibly as I haven't yet asked the right questions. I'll look into it. It does play well into 'strangeness' I have seen with a warping of our 'perceived reality', so there may be something to it. I will let you know when I do.

As far as pseudoscience goes; the only part as of yet I can comment on is to say that telekinesis is very real and possible. Also, it is far more powerful than you can imagine, even at its most fundamental level. By my understanding of it so far, it is most easily controllable within the weaker vibrational, 'elemental forces', things such as liquids, air, cloud. Vibrational manifestations such as 'solid matter' require you to be vastly more highly attuned, although I am aware that it is very possible to do.

I will elaborate a little more on this through private message if you like, as my understanding of what it is and how it works is still very limited and so I will wait until I have a progressed comprehension of it (and some type of documentation of proof) to post in here.

Hey, BornOfSin - a few things....

First of all - great job with the thread and explanations.

Next...

Originally posted by BornOfSin
reply to post by alienDNA

 

The big problem with me being 'Schizophrenic' alienDNA; is that my first encounter with these lights happened with my girlfriend present.

Also that I have taken many people down there, all of which have had experience with seeing these lights. Many of which actually communicated with them too.

So I guess every one of us would be crazy having the exact same shared illusions?

Let's put the debate to rest. Where are you, located? I want to experience this, first hand. And, I have the desire, time and money to make it happen.


And, also... a suggestion - when replying, please use the quote function...

...so we know who you are addressing... as many of your responses are to posters, many posts/pages back, often

Thanks.

And, thanks for not leaving the thread, even though you said you were going to:

Originally posted by BornOfSin
This is the last reply I am going to make to this thread.

The level of ignorance amongst you makes me honestly sad we are of the same species.

The divergence in opinion and speculation on the truth; exemplifies the need for a shift in our consciousness as a species and EXACTLY WHY RELIGION MUST BE ENDED! Full stop. No arguments can ever support the contrary. We need to evolve as a species.

There is no 'agenda' other than to open your eyes.

They do not want to enslave you.
They do not want to kill you.
They do not want you to worship them on Sundays.
They do not want you to donate all your money.
They do not want you to kill in their name.
They do not want you to hate those who don't see the truth of all things.
They do not want to 'save' you.
They do not want me to save you.

You are being offered some information as I said to you before. Digest it or spit it out. They do not care, I do not care.

If they wanted to wipe you out, they could do it with a simple virus and not have it effect any other life on this planet.

Wake up from your dream people.

Love and light to you all.

I wish you all only the best.

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See what I did, there?

Originally posted by BornOfSin
reply to post by nrthstar

 

This is because; as I have stated in this thread; the subconscious is the bridge between the conscious and superconscious minds.

This means you are most easily contactable in a state where your consciousness gives way to the subconscious. This (I believe) is that point where dream and reality meet. As it is the point where both minds are in a balanced fluid communication.

But doesn't this tell you something? Think this through - every minute of the day we are constantly taking in images, words, tv, film, adverts, billboards, songs, jingles etc. Psychology can tell you where all of that goes - into your subconscious and you are not even aware of it it's effect on you. Those who produce and control media, particularly speaking images, lace it with subliminals. I caught one a few weeks ago as I was only listening not watching as well: opening scenes of a cop show and as a jogger was being stalked by a serial killer, the music was rising as the singer sang "and you will not escape from the 666" just as the killer lunged to kill. (We reversed the scene and I then watched). My husband who was sitting there,,thoroughly engrossed, did not hear it at all. Guess where that spoken image was placed? Into his subconscious. Every hour of the day we are being programmed and we don't realise it. The power of spoken imagery like tv and film on the subconcious is mind boggling. There are fantastic blogs on the web dedicated to uncovering these, and usually specialise in hidden sodomy imagery or DNA manipulation imagery.

It is these that affect our soul and emotions. It is these that come out as desires and lusts, but yet it is your conscience that must be in charge to put the breaks on what you know to be good or evil, right and wrong. Brain injury patients show us this when that part is damaged. They lose that 'filter', that part of them which told them right from wrong. What lashes out in violence or sweetness just happens because it's in the deeper part of the brain.

Switching off the conscience is abnormal otherwise we'd all be falling into self-hypnotic stupors. What happens when you do? What is one of the most common conclusions that people who regularly meditate come to? That there really is no good or evil, that it is "subjective". Why do you think that is? That's their subconscious convincing them to have its way. It's pedophiles listening to that internal lust and then convincing themselves that sex with children isn't really an evil. There is no difference because it is the subconscious being allowed to override the conscience. Our Creator put Adam in charge, not Eve.

Our Creator told us that Satan would be unbound at the end of the Millenium to go out and deceive the nations. If you want to know why eastern mind altering meditation and '___' drug trips has begun to race across our lands in popularity after decades of speaking images laced with subliminals , I really can't give you another caution. Millions coming to the conclusion that good and evil are really "subjective" have no clue to the hypocrisy that they produce. One I just read yesterday - "those who slaughter animals for food are murderers, but not all purposeful killing of humans should be viewed as murder." If that isn't from a mind watching too much Animal Planet with its never ending message of "cruelty to animals", and too much fiction tv of zombie killing, I don't know what is.

You are not listening to anything more than your own wicked imagination. And that imagination had hundred of thousands of images, dialogues, plots from which to probably answer you etc. All of which comes from those who write, produce and feed you Jewish and Babylonian mystery religion. See, you think that what you have discovered is one thing, but go open the Kaballah and Talmud, or any other esoteric writing, and I'm positive that you'll find your thoughts there.

Gird up your mind. We were all warned by the God of Truth.

reply to post by BornOfSin


I would like!!!

"In Reciprocal System (RS) physics, Larson comes up with..the conclusion that astronomers have
the stellar (and galactic) evolutionary sequences backwards! In Universe of Motion, Larson shows the consequences of what happens when you flip stellar evolution around, making red giants the youngest stars, and the blue giants the oldest....As a consequence to setting the stellar evolutionary sequence straight, some conclusions are different
than popular belief:
• Stars start out as large dust clouds, condense into red supergiants, orange giants, yellow then
white main sequence stars, then on up to blue giants, then supernova. The same process as
heating up a piece of metal, from the initial red glow to where it gets blue-hot and breaks.
• Since stars are built from dust and debris as fuel, the more fuel available, the hotter the sun will
get.
As David Wilcock has identified in the past, planetary moons are leaving “trails” throughout the
solar system, indicating we've entered a dusty area of space. With all this dust and debris
available for stellar fuel, the sun is growing in size and getting hotter, moving from a class-G
(yellow) star to a class-F (yellow-white) star.
• Because our system of long-term dating is based on an assumption of radioactive elements
being formed when the Earth was born—not being produced regularly—our system of geologic
eras is drastically wrong. Astronomical events move thousands of times faster than assumed by
astronomers. The planet and solar system are no where near as old as claimed and mankind has
been around to see the sun “change” in the past."

According to this insider "daniel" to secret govt projects, the sun is getting bigger, brighter, and hotter. Not trying to cause a panic with this, take it as you will. He also says the forces involved are anti gravitational during the shift, which he says is quantum steps and not smooth transition, and will push the planets outwards to new orbits. Its possible according to the insider that the same thing could happen to the planet in an expansion type event... think about the ancient maps that showed Antarctica closer to S America and Africa.. the planet was smaller and has expanded. Elementary students are quick to point out that the continents look like puzzle pieces that should fit together. New orbit = longer year; Bigger planet = longer days = end of 'time' (clock time) as we know it, just as the Mayans predicted. This also explains how the people written about from antiquity lived hundreds of years as they were making faster passes around a larger sun. Also gives an explanation to the idea of us being in the 5th sun moving into the 6th. Daniel explains in detail the science behind all this and a whole WHOLE lot more in a series of papers. There's a forum HERE and the papers can be found HERE The title of the paper I'm referencing is "Geoengineering, Chemtrails, HAARP, World Orders, Time Lines and Ascension"
I would like to get the OPs take on these things, or if this is not something you know about then I leave it for anyone else that wants, to comment on.

Definitely worth checking out!
Peace

A bit more relevant to the thread, more from Daniel's papers:
Extra-Dimensional Entities
Now we have the basics to understand extra-dimensional entities, the majority of which are entities with a presence in 3D time. This includes entities that are native born in the cosmic sector that have learned to access space, and entities in the material sector to have obtained conscious access to the realm of 3D time.Consider a cosmic creature, a native-born temporal entity that has their physical structure in time, and therefore can only interact with 3D space as force they are invisible to our normal, waking consciousness, yet since time changes space, we can still bump into things that aren't there and they can make things fly around the room without any observable cause. Ghosts, poltergeist and the like are all entities of this nature entities with a structure in 3D time.18 And yes, we appear as ghosts to the cosmic life in 3D time, as we cross the barrier in the other direction! Two other situations arise for extra-dimensional life, where an entity begins to consciously interact with the spirit complex, going “beyond space and time.” When material sector life develops sufficient intelligence, that intelligence provides the modus operandi for free will to follow the silver cord across into the dimensions of equivalent space the temporal dimensions. Use your mind to open the door to time. When someone here in the material sector begins to access the temporal dimensions, we call it ascension. When a cosmic entity, living in 3D time, performs a similar growth of consciousness, then they are actually accessing their equivalent time dimensions giving them access to the 3D spatial dimensions. These cosmic entities that are crossing over from the 3D time to 3D space are the ones we
refer to as ascended masters, angelic beings or advanced spirits. (Not to mention those cosmic aliens
that appear as hyper-intelligent, pan-dimensional beings manifesting as white mice.)

13th March 2013

reply to post by BornOfSin


My brother has been anticipating this date all year

Originally posted by BornOfSin
13th March 2013

What does this date mean? Should we expect anything significant aside from a new Pope might get elected on this date?

reply to post by marhaba


Ive always wondered how predicting specific dates work. With Australia say being a day ahead of USA which time zone would be applicable? *Insert x-files theme here*

reply to post by ThePhysicalExperience


Reminds me of the Dec. 21, 2012 when i asked a friend on a different timezone if he sees anybody in their neighbourhood dropping dead already one-by-one so I might have a bit of time confessing all my sins.

reply to post by BornOfSin


Hi, OP! Ur thread is very interesting! Feels like it may b the reason I had come to ATS!

Regarding the Stick Insect, I have seen few like it in my home some months back. I had looked closer as they seemed quite intelligent to me. I couldn't help feeling they could b sum kind of aliens( ha, ha). Their movements were somewhat human like . It was strange but I didn't think much. Are they a very known species?

Also, what is this 11:11 thing? I too am seeing this many times for a few months now! Do u know anything about it?