Under-age rape victim convicted of fornication, sentenced to 100 lashes

Though I try to keep an open mind about all the holy books out there. Some of the stories within seem like the writer was taking some real good acid or something like that,

reply to post by Lostmymarbles


Just had to clear up some misconceptions regarding the forbidden substance you name above... if one were to ingest some (really good, well made) portion of that, then the last thing they would do is write some forbidding, hateful text designed to subjugate and control.

Maybe some of the new testament, but only the unconditional love stuff and golden rule ideology.

More likely they would laugh for hours about the hilarity of human ways and foibles and hug a tree and really mean it. It gives you the big picture and it's hard to come back from the land of the META. Don't regret one minute spent in that land, though.

As far as other chemicals, who knows... perhaps paint fumes?

reply to post by nolabel


lets compare that to christian countries and their behaviour.

72 years ago germany and england were at war killing and maiming each other. later another christian country, the USA, joined in. later still england and america carpet bombed dresden, a german city, and burnt or crushed to death hundreds of thousands of men, women, children and babies. a fine christian act.

then there is the killing between ireland and england. both christian. oh----and thou shalt not kill.

Originally posted by orangutang
reply to post by nolabel

 

lets compare that to christian countries and their behaviour.

72 years ago germany and england were at war killing and maiming each other. later another christian country, the USA, joined in. later still england and america carpet bombed dresden, a german city, and burnt or crushed to death hundreds of thousands of men, women, children and babies. a fine christian act.

then there is the killing between ireland and england. both christian. oh----and thou shalt not kill.

What does this have to do with my original post?

reply to post by nolabel


That is just disgusting and the stupidest religion ever. No offense, but why do I always hear about Islam being peaceful, this poor girl getting raped and abused, probably raped by her step dads friend also..She gets lashed 100 times? ahh, I just saw pics of this and that's just inhumane and must hurt a lot...It's truly a disgusting and not so appealing religion..I'm truly disgusted how they treat women there..Every time I hear this stuff and read it, it just pisses me off inside, WHY are women treated worse than dogs and animals there..Some dude rapes a girl, yet she gets punished, she gets abused and all.. some place in middle east, If a dude rapes a chick, she has to marry him..Like reallly?? If that was here in Canada, I'd be "raping" the hottest chick haha, wouldn't everyone than marry her and be set for life haha..

reply to post by ANOK


What are you smoking?

The Ottomans made the pact with Central Powers. They got into a war with the Allies because of their pact. The Ottomans picked their friends poorly and suffered the consequences. Funny how that works, no?

Then you throw out some feces covered toilet paper about irrelevant historical events and continue your victim mentality.

Quit with the clowning and get with the facts.

This story makes me so angry that I want to break something and scream.

You're a grown man, you rape your underage stepdaughter innumerable times (and probably share her with your friends and maybe even sell her to strangers to generate a little extra income), impregnate her, possess pornographic material (which is probably pictures/videos you took of your underage stepdaughter in the nude or while you or someone else was raping her), and kill the baby when it is born and trash it in the backyard...and the sentence is...? ANY ANSWERS, ANYONE???

You're a grown woman, you know that your husband rapes your daughter on a regular basis (and most likely shares her with his friends and maybe even sells her to generate a little extra income), don't report it and do nothing about it except everything you can to conceal it...and the sentence is...? AGAIN, ANY ANSWERS, PEOPLE?!?

Oh...but, wait! There is a sentence for SOMEONE!

You're an underage little girl, your stepfather rapes you innumerable times (and probably shares you with his friends and maybe even sells you to strangers to generate a little extra income) and impregnates you, your baby is murdered upon it's birth and discarded like garbage...and finally, FINALLY, when someone finds out what happened to you and is happening to you, they go through ALL of the evidence...and their final word on the matter is that you had sex with a man who wasn't your stepfather (but was probably one of his friends or someone he sold you to) so you're a sinner...and you're sentenced to a hundred lashes and eight months of house arrest (during which time your stepfather will probably continue raping you and otherwise since you now have so much free time at home)!

If I could take a whip to every rapist and child abuser and to every person who punishes victims and allows rapists and abusers to get away with their crimes...boy, would I make it count and these monsters and cowards would not be getting off the hook with only a hundred lashes...oh, no, a hundred would never be anywhere near enough for the likes of them...

Originally posted by nolabel

Originally posted by orangutang
reply to post by nolabel

 

lets compare that to christian countries and their behaviour.

72 years ago germany and england were at war killing and maiming each other. later another christian country, the USA, joined in. later still england and america carpet bombed dresden, a german city, and burnt or crushed to death hundreds of thousands of men, women, children and babies. a fine christian act.

then there is the killing between ireland and england. both christian. oh----and thou shalt not kill.

What does this have to do with my original post?

simple. you're pointing out the injustices of sharia law. presumably to illustrate how morally bankrupt they are and possibly to denigrate islam. i'm showing you that other christian countries are no better. you're living in a christian country right?

Originally posted by IkNOwSTuff
Id love to see some of our Muslim members jump in to defend this one.

Yes Islam is a religion of peace and women are protected and treated as equals under Islamic law

You're right, all Muslims act this way just like all Christians are pedophiles.

reply to post by orangutang


A war that happened 72 years ago has nothing at all to do with the OP!
This is about Sharia law. I don't see how you can equate that to what happened 72 years ago or what it has to do with the conflict between the Irish and the English.

I was pointing out the injustice of the way this young girl was treated. I am in no way saying one religion is better than the other as I think all religion is a crop of cack.

reply to post by Bacardi


Fail post by you.

Go ahead a find a case where the victim of pedophilia was punished in a Western court. Fun fact: in the US pedophiles have to be segregated from the general population less other prisoners will kill them.

Originally posted by ollncasino

Yet here you are arguing, without a hint of irony, that people should not be allowed to criticize Islam!

Clearly you hate freedom of speech.

edit on 28-2-2013 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

Lol Feel free to point out my ad hominem attack.

I'm sorry, where did I say you couldn't criticize Islam? Or you shouldn't be allowed to? You can make your hateful and narrow-minded posts as much as you would like. And more power to you. But while you are certainly welcome to critize Islam I will be equally welcome to criticize you for criticizing Islam.

Pointing out bigotry and xenophobia doesn't require links and statics dear.

Furthermore? What are you going to do about this abomination you hate so much? What are your solutions Ollncasino? Sweep the middle east and purge the infidels from the land? Turn the middle east into a parking lot? Re-education programs to espouse a philosophy you find more palatable?

reply to post by jcutler12888


To somewhat answer your question - both the mother and father were charged with crimes. The mother for concealing the abuse and the father for murder and child sexual abuse.

I couldn't find their punishment but I assume for the father it was most likely the death penalty.

Also, just to clarify, the victim was NOT charged for being abused by the father but for another relationship.
It was still wrong to punish her, but let's all be clear of the facts.

Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
reply to post by Bacardi

 

Fail post by you.

Go ahead a find a case where the victim of pedophilia was punished in a Western court. Fun fact: in the US pedophiles have to be segregated from the general population less other prisoners will kill them.

Here you go. I guess you didn't read my first post.

wnyt.com...

Note, the girl in this case was even younger. Also, the US the victim was prosecuted for actions directly related to the abuse. In the Islam case, it wasn't for the abuse but another relationship found during the investigation.

Originally posted by GreenGlassDoor
reply to post by Bacardi

 

Fail post by you.

Go ahead a find a case where the victim of pedophilia was punished in a Western court. Fun fact: in the US pedophiles have to be segregated from the general population less other prisoners will kill them.

Fail post by you.

Law of the land has nothing to do with religion.

Originally posted by Malynn

I'm sorry, where did I say you couldn't criticize Islam? Or you shouldn't be allowed to? You can make your hateful and narrow-minded posts as much as you would like. And more power to you. But while you are certainly welcome to critize Islam I will be equally welcome to criticize you for criticizing Islam.

Thank you for agreeing that I have every right to criticize Islam.

We have found a point of agreement.

You stated in your introduction post that

"I'm not any kind of expert, and I'm no authority on anything." New Member Introductions

It is clear that your lack of expertise and authority extends to Islam. Strangely and rather arrogantly, that doesn't prevent you from defending something you don't understand. Such has been the nature of ignorance since time immoral.

So far in this thread I have established that:-

(1) Support for Sharia law is widespread in the Islamic world and strong amongst Muslims in the USA & UK.

(2) The typical punishment for criticizing Islam in an Islamic country is imprisonment and possible execution.

(3) 1 in 8 American Muslims think people should be executed for criticizing Islam while just under 50% think they should be prosecuted. Most (58%) think criticism should be prohibited under the constitution.

(4) 1 in 8 British Muslims also agree with the death penalty for those criticizing Islam ICM Poll Almost 70% of British Muslims think criticism of Islam should be a criminal offense.

(5) You call me a bigot and xenophobe for publicized the above facts.

(6) You refer to Muslims as "poor brown people" Link

Poor brown people? Some white liberal condensation raising its arrogant head by any chance??

.

It takes all sorts and you are clearly a different sort.

It wouldn't do if we were all the same. Just keep on demonstrating, in your own words:-

"I'm not any kind of expert, and I'm no authority on anything."

You have kept me amused with your lack of expertise, lack of authority and general ignorance.

reply to post by Lostmymarbles


Please forgive my vehemence in my earlier comment but I stand by what I said, Aisha also called the rose of Damascus was the daughter of one of Muhammad's follower's and she was six year's of age when he married her, it is said in the Koran that she braught her doll's with her but he did not sleep with her because all her hair fell out on the first night (Extreme trauma) and she was therefore under the law's he had imposed classified as diseased, her hair grew back when she was nine and he knew her then (why did her hair fall out), Other than economic why are so many muslim's emigrating to none muslim country's were they claim to be happier only to then demand they be remade by sharia into the country's they left behind. the story of the toddler is relaid in one of the passage's written by his close followers that are the muslim equivelent of our christian bible's gospel's and the speech about the persian woman was made as a promise by muhammad to his follower's and is also recorded.

My sister is married to a former Iranian Revolutionary Guard who helped overthrow the shah and instate the Ayatollah, he was a bit of a playboy under the Shah but after fighting in the Iran/Iraq war he came to england as a student on a libyan passport and my sister fell under his spell, when my mother found out (I was only 9 at the time) she being a single parent and inspite of my sister being an adult went to drive her car over him only to stop six inche's from him as she is not a killer, but he is, he has in his possesion a photograph of himself and two other Iranian army officer's holding the head of an Iraqi officer that they had beheaded, still dripping blood and with the bloody knife in his hand, the three of them, him and his two friends are grinning from ear to ear like mainiac's.

Now having had one in my family for over twenty five year's I feel qualified to pass a certain level of oppinion and My earlier statement was actually held back as what I felt like saying would surely not have got past the moderator's as I feel most intollerent toward that religeon and it's adherant's so If you want proof of the validity of my statement's I suggest you actually read the koran and not as a religeouse text but as the rambling's and witness of historical event's and please read about Um Kirfa and the Kuffiri tribe (remember the victor write's the history when and if you do she was a good well respected woman whom he had murdered in the most heinouse way - pay attention also to what happened to her little daughter) as we are called kuffir's by the muslim's and this will awaken you to there meaning and what they think they have the religeous right to do to us, if this is too much for you then please don't ask.

reply to post by Daughter2


I'm aware that both the mother and stepfather were charged...but I don't see sentences for either of them, even when I go and search for the sentences off of this site. No sentences to be found for either of them but the girl has already been "tried", convicted, and sentenced? It sounds like they've punished who they wanted to punish and they'll get around to slapping the mother and stepfather's wrists later.

I never said she was charged for being with her father...the articles say that in the course of the investigation, they discovered the victim had had sex with another man. They didn't say she had a relationship, they said that they found evidence to support the claim that a sex act occurred between the girl and a man other than her stepfather...whether this man was a man her stepfather shared her with or sold her to is unknown but highly likely, not to mention that this is an underage girl in the Middle East who's being regularly raped by her stepfather so I doubt she would have had the time or the motivation to run around playing Romeo and Juliet with some man/boy. I'd also like to point out that while the girl has been convicted of having sex with a man other than her father, the man who she's being punished for sleeping with is nowhere to be found in these articles...why isn't he being charged for having sex with her??

reply to post by jcutler12888



Just because the punishment was not found on the internet does not mean they were not punished.

It might just mean the MSM deemed it not news worthy. They tend to take the anti-Islam stance. If he was not punished at all, I would think this would be in the article too.

I would guess for the step-father it would be a death sentence. I do wonder what happened though.

reply to post by Daughter2


Very good point about MSM.

I know that I PRAY the step-father gets a sentence of death. I'm gonna be wondering about the mother and stepfather's fates for a very, very long time if nobody can find out what they were.

reply to post by Daughter2


Already responded to your nonsense. Go back a few pages.