Obamas preparing war against the American People

reply to post by queenofswords


I believe that Americans have some sort of Stockholm syndrome. If not; they have no fight left maybe because their day to day struggles are so draining accompanied by the fact that a constant agenda to fool the sheep has worked. I think it is safe to say that most feel their vote REALLY doesn't count so how could they rise if they have been indoctrinated into believing their views are not one to move the needle enough in regards to the chrony capitalism oligarchy / plutocracy.

It seems that by the time one takes a stand in hopes to generate a movement or revolution, that time will be too late. I feel that the true change of decreasing gov't and fortifying the constitution lied within the views of Ron Paul which the Oligarchy made sure he would not be POTUS. We will never know (or at least anytime in a couple of decades) who trully is the winner of our electorial process. Which is a mochary of our democracy. I believe it became clear when the bailouts happened ; through blackmail and contribution retribution and other scandalious means to fund "too big to fail."

Their sharade of keeping the economy from the next depression all of our leaders were saving big biz. The authors of this tale were Paulson, Geitner and Bernanke. I am pretty confident that our Plutocracy became transparent that the POTUS; proving that a career lawyer community organzier became the mouth piece of those that actually run the states, if not the world. Too big to fail then lead Americans to ride and crash with the housing bubble which seems to be incorrectly named. The truth is we have been wallowing in the balistic bliss bubble of fiat money; the inevidable is bleak unfortunately because there aren't any self-less members of COTUS of even local municipalities. .

Originally posted by beezzer

I'm on the side of freedom, personal responsibility, liberty, honour, dignity, the US Constitution.

What side, my friend, are you on

The same side as you..assuming that you are honest in your response..It is the contention that President Obam is not for those same things that I find dishonest, ugly propaganda.

reply to post by solomons path


I will have to do research and provide links when time affords. But the assumption that each taret is designed to be fired at is false. I am not sure what the proper response is for the Pregnant woman with a gun, but you are assuming it is to fire upon. Many targets are designed to also weed out trigger happy DHS, Cops etc. I'll be back to you after some research.

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by beezzer

I'm on the side of freedom, personal responsibility, liberty, honour, dignity, the US Constitution.

What side, my friend, are you on

The same side as you..assuming that you are honest in your response..It is the contention that President Obam is not for those same things that I find dishonest, ugly propaganda.

I would like to see one policy from Dear Leader that reinforces personal freedom, encourages personal responsibility rather than blame shifting (that is his mantra FFS - it was Bush's fault) where does he side with liberty over government authority, show me anything the man has done with honor, is constant lying and media manipulation "dignity".

A POTUS who says if Congress won't act I will more than any other has zero respect for the Constitution.

"To conquer a nation first disarm its citiezens." A. Hitler

“We the People are the rightful master of both congress and the courts – not to overthrow the Constitution, but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution.” Abraham Lincoln

Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by solomons path

 

I will have to do research and provide links when time affords. But the assumption that each taret is designed to be fired at is false. I am not sure what the proper response is for the Pregnant woman with a gun, but you are assuming it is to fire upon. Many targets are designed to also weed out trigger happy DHS, Cops etc. I'll be back to you after some research.

The pregger woman with a gun target is simple..its to desensitize the person so if they are faced with such a issue, they are not taken completely off guard and will shoot.

In every war, occupation is harsh. from children coming up and shooting, to women, etc. If a soldier hesitates during these moments, he can get himself, and the rest of his squad killed. It is necessary for a soldier to not see who is holding the gun and simply see the gun.

If some kid, pregnant woman, or a nun held a gun to me and I had a gun, I would like to think I would immediately respond with appropriate force. Priority 1 is to stay alive.

I find this argument whether Obama is preparing for/committing war against the citizens useless.

Does it matter if Obama is the source head of it or not? The DHS buying the rounds is a fact. The allocation of rounds, first to the military, then L.E. then civilians is fact. Many facts in this O.P.

If Obama is the head or just a "via" doesn't matter one whit. Obama removed via impeachment either removes the head, and if not the head, removes a key "via". Either way a positive move, methinks.

Also, what other presidents did or didn't do is equally irrelevant. The situation is now, what's in our collective faces, not geek work or hair-splitting debate.

I still believe there's one thing wrong with this O.P.

There is insufficient organization for a national revolt. PERIOD.

What is being prepared for is economic collapse! Hello?? Now there's a national issue that results in chaos.

What's being done by the Gov't is an attempt to retain control AFTER the economic collapse.

I have no "links". Just a guess.....

Originally posted by Golf66
show me anything the man has done with honor

Ask a soldier whom has risked his life that also happens to be homosexual.

Ultimately the complaint is simple.
Conservatives don't like Obama, because he isn't a ultra conservative president.

You don't say. go figure.
Conservatism as a brand is about as popular as the hula hoop now adays. Something about freak weather all the time being considered totally normal, the hatred of being polite (aka, the durned political correctness), the constant harping on why its cool for Romney to pay 14% while some engineer pays upwards of 30%..even people screaming Romney needs a break because he is a "job creator" (lulz). Obsession with punishment over rehabilitation, the pretend difference between outsourcing verses "offshoring".

The GOP party platform is withering. It required a full makeover and core value changes, or it will continue to dwindle into obscurity. The Dems/Left is not a perfect party..but when you do a side by side comparison, its obvious what the general people gravitate towards.

If voter surpression is the only real consideration on how to win a election, then something has to change...not to mention it is pretty much the most anti-American thing a citizen can do.

reply to post by SaturnFX


Actually, conservatism is growing like gangbusters. What I think you meant to say was the GOP is about as fashionable as the hula hoop these days, and rightfully so. They are as corrupt as the Democrats, and things feel like they are growing exponetially worse with each passing year. Thus, the upswing in conservatism.

And for the record, (speaking as a conservative, not for them)

I detest President Obama because he has proven repeatedly, on major issues, that he does not respect the rule of law. He makes and breaks laws as he sees fit.
I can abide differing views in the WH, it's part of the American experience. I cannot abide the level of corruption that flows from this administration. And yes, GB's before him, and Clinton's before him, etc etc.
At least in days past, they tried to be sneaky about it, as if they might have cared if the public found out. This administration flaunts it, all but laughing at us over open mics on CNN.

Somebody missed the memo.

Congress gave Obama authority to kill Americans without a trial.
Congress gave Obama authority to use the military to detain Americans forever without a trial.


Nobody is "preparing" for a war against the American people. They have been using tactics against the American people for quite a few years.


The military is disarmed and now the time is right for millions of Chinese to have an easy invasion and take over of America. The few elite families who have robbed America blind don't want to ever be held accountable for what they did....They WANT China to come in and destroy everything...

And those rich elite will be sitting in their castles in Dubai laughing about their robbery and what they did.

I'll try to make this simple.

What law has passed in Washington DC that promotes personal responsibility, individualism?

Obama/congress/Carl the janitor, who cares! Obama is in charge, so he gets credit/blame for everything!

Originally posted by Indigo5

Originally posted by beezzer

I'm on the side of freedom, personal responsibility, liberty, honour, dignity, the US Constitution.

What side, my friend, are you on

The same side as you..assuming that you are honest in your response..It is the contention that President Obam is not for those same things that I find dishonest, ugly propaganda.

then youve been drinking the kool-aid and not been paying attention for the past 4 years....
The man has at every turn attempted to bring this country to its knees financially, and constitutionally......hes even more rabid now that he has his 2nd term......

its time to stop listening to all his "supporters" and do your own research.......

Originally posted by SaturnFX

Originally posted by Golf66
show me anything the man has done with honor

Ask a soldier whom has risked his life that also happens to be homosexual.

So his "honorable" act is that he allowed homosexuals to openly serve in the military?

Wow! Lets all bow down to Dear Leader.

Having served in the military for 24 years I'll tell you he wasn't much of a trend setter in this regard.

Gays have been around forever. So he made something a hard policy that has been a soft policy for about 10 years... Woop!

Honor is not lying, it is doing what you say you will do, and having the stones to own up to your own failures and accept responsibility for your own actions. I don't personally see a lot of that emanating from the oval office these days.

Lets not forget Sequestration is an Obama tool to shame the GOP with his OWN creation now it's biting his ass.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

The man has at every turn attempted to bring this country to its knees financially, and constitutionally......hes even more rabid now that he has his 2nd term......

its time to stop listening to all his "supporters" and do your own research.......

And yet the entirety of reality debunks your claim. It is but the same old irony that those that eagerly consume propaganda and ape Fox News, Glen Beck, Freedomwerks et al...claim all other news or facts to be "propaganda",

Stock market? Unemployment? Home Sales? Construction? GDP? Consumer Confidence? Every other indicator worth a damn? All UP UP UP ...GEEZ Pres. Obama seems to be doing a pretty crappy job destroying America...

Originally posted by cavtrooper7
Lets not forget Sequestration is an Obama tool to shame the GOP with his OWN creation now it's biting his ass.

His OWN Creation???? GOD HELP ME FOLKS...left, right...who cares...you guys don't deserve to be fed so much BS...

After months of "hell no"...and after consumer confidence tanked and hiring dipped...AND the first ever downgrade of the USA's Credit Rating....GOP House Leader Boehner HAD THIS TO SAY ABOUT THE SEQUESTER...."we [GOP] got 98% of what we wanted"


ALSO HERE and a million other places...all you have to do is google..

Boehner: I got 98 percent of what I wanted
Boehner: I do. When you look at this final agreement that we came to with the white House, I got 98 percent of what I wanted. I'm pretty happy.

www.cbsnews.com...

WHAT ARE YOU MISSING?....TOO MUCH FOX NEWS?

Originally posted by AwakeWeAre
So there was about 5000 people in line for the gun show last weekend down the street from my house. As I looked around and sung "Proud to Be an American" in my head I realized that these tyrannical monsters might be biting off a little more than they can chew. When the time comes, well, then it will be time.

I hope your still singing, when things go bad, and those 5000 "proud americans" are using those Firearms against you.
You think they are buying them to fight the Government.
How Cute.

Originally posted by beezzer

Obama/congress/Carl the janitor, who cares! Obama is in charge, so he gets credit/blame for everything!

You need to research "checks and balances"...The President is a branch of government...Blaming him for the actions of the GOP Dominated house who actually writes the legislation and passes it...is just a little idealogically unhinged IMO.

Originally posted by Golf66

I would like to see one policy from Dear Leader that reinforces personal freedom, encourages personal responsibility rather than blame shifting (that is his mantra FFS - it was Bush's fault)

How about allowing gays serve openly in the military?
edit: guess someone already brought up. You did ask for one. Then you just deny it when someone brings it up. I was going to find another, but you're obviously the type of person who will just ignore it.


Also, Obama seldom blamed Bush. He really only brings it up when Republicans accuse him of destroying the economy. Do you forget the economy was in shambles when Obama took office. It's the Republicans who love to blame others, especially Obama. When the fact is, they are more responsible for the economic mess of this country. Let's not turn this into an argument about who is to blame for the economy. I'm just trying to make the point, Obama really doesn't blame Bush that much . But republicans love to say he does.

Originally posted by beezzer

What law has passed in Washington DC that promotes personal responsibility, individualism?

To help students better afford a college education, President Obama ended billions in subsidies wasted on banks and used the savings to double investments in Pell Grants. He established a college tax credit for students and their families worth up to $10,000 over four years of college. He set a goal to lead the world in college graduates by 2020, and cut the growth of college tuition and fees in half over the next 10 years, a goal that will save the typical student thousands of dollars a year, and proposed bringing together community colleges and businesses to train 2 million Americans for good jobs that actually exist now and are waiting to be filled.