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Originally posted by rickymouse
People who are obese often eat less than people who have high metabolisms and still gain weight.
Originally posted by nomnom
Originally posted by rickymouse
People who are obese often eat less than people who have high metabolisms and still gain weight.
I was pretty much with you until this statement. I'm calling BS. Never seen an obese person who eats less than 2,000Kcal and doesn't lose weight.
Originally posted by caitlinfae
reply to post by DrHammondStoat
Do you mean $2-2.50 a day? Sorry to be picky, but I'm in Europe, and it would be interesting to compare notes on this. And I totally agree with your comment on a vegetarian diet, with minimal dairy products. But that's a whole other debate!
Originally posted by rickymouse
I struggled to believe what is really going on in our western diet and couldn't fathom that our government would allow it. I guess Senators and other government officials aren't the smartest cookies in the world.
Originally posted by nomnom
reply to post by caitlinfae
Agreed. It's more complicated than pure kcal, but I was just trying to push back from one extreme to another on his level of reasoning.
I think what matters most is the endocrine disruptors, and insulin spikes from processed foods and sugary drinks. That's why I stick to organic, whole foods.
Originally posted by Quibbler
While I worked as a pharmacy technician it blew my mind how FAT everyone getting their medicine was. Everybody was on some sort of blood pressure medicine, cholesterol, diabetes, etc. There would be people coming through the drive-thru to pick up their heart medication yelling for me to hurry up as they stuffed french fries down their face with their grubby little fingers. Even our medicine is enabling these people to continue their laziness.
I'm just not a fan of fat people, because from my experience 90% of those people bring it upon themselves and have no intention of fixing the problem.
Originally posted by nomnom
Originally posted by rickymouse
People who are obese often eat less than people who have high metabolisms and still gain weight.
I was pretty much with you until this statement. I'm calling BS. Never seen an obese person who eats less than 2,000Kcal and doesn't lose weight.
Originally posted by Gazrok
Lots of reasons all combining towards it...
1) High fat, high carb foods are cheaper. It costs a fortune to shop healthy at the grocery store. Lean meats are twice as much, fresh fruits and veggies go bad quicker, etc.
2) Soda. Our culture is so geared for soda being the "go-to" drink. I've switched to water and using water enhancers for flavor. Luckily, this is starting to trend, so should help.
3) Fast food. Face it, I can get a meal at McDonalds for as much or less than I can buy the ingredients to make a meal. It's cheap and convenient, and in our quick-paced world, an easy solution. But, look at the fat and calories of an average fast food meal, and it will shock you.
4) Restaurant Portions. They are enormous, for the most part. Having been raised to "clean my plate", it's tricky for me not to eat all of what I order. Solution, get a to-go box upfront and put some in there. Out of sight, out of mind. (and lunch for the next day).
All of these factors combine to make us fat.
Originally posted by Tardacus
Originally posted by zonetripper2065
Its the diet, fatty foods are cheap. It's all people can afford.
yep exactly, it`s the garbage that we are sold that is called food.
The "food" that we eat today is less nutritious than it was just 50 years ago. even the fruits and vegetables we eat are 30-50 percent less nutritious.
All the fat and artificial garbage that is in our food today leaves our bodies feeling malnourished and hungry so we eat more food.Eating more of the same fat filled artificial filled food just makes us fatter but does very little to make our bodies feel less malnourished.
I once read that modern america is the only society in the history of the world in which obese people suffer from malnutrition.
That almost seems like an oxymoron doesn`t it? using the words obese and malnutrition in the same sentence to describe a person.edit on 19-2-2013 by Tardacus because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by sulaw
reply to post by fireysnowman29
You are correct to an extent when saying Laziness. But if Obesity is a disease then it should be able to be traced to a specific gene, am I right? However not all Obese people are unhealthy and not all skinny people are healthy as well. See the contradiction? So is it an epidemic? Meh, this thread would say yes but i'm not so sure.
In all reality I would like to point out they might have a solution for this.... And it might sound like a joke.... But someday we will find out~
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