Pope Benedict To Resign At The End Of Februrary

reply to post by something wicked


My first thought too. But figured it doesn't matter where he's from originally, he was indocturnated in Rome and therefore, since part of the Vatican, is Roman as all are. So.. just watching just in case.

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I'd suggest that such info about to drop spurring this resignation would not be a result of Anonymous but more likely involving the Papal butler who was convicted of stealing very sensitive material from the Vatican and attempting to make that material public. I mention the Papal butler because the Pope pardoned him.

There was a thread recently about a trader making a large trade on the VIX about something happening between 20 April and 25 April.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Wonder if there is any connection?

Originally posted by kosmicjack
With all the intervention these days from Anonymous, it would not surprise me at all if there was some disclosure of some sort about to drop that may have precipitated the resignation.

No I feel very strongly, that he found himself between a rock and a very hard place and needs his remaining days to "decompress" and pray for his own salvation i.e.: be decontaminated or excorsized of you will.

His is a loss not of bodily strength, but of spiritual strength and resolve which I think was overrun by the spirit of evil.

well ... another doom myth is coming to an end. It was said that he will be the last pope ever we'll see

reply to post by NewAgeMan


Thanks for the video clip.
Good God, if you see him deliver his resig, you will see that he is extremely tired
and honest at the same time. There is no conspiracy at all, just a Historic moment.

reply to post by theAnswer1111

On this occasion...

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With you 100% on that one!~ Good research.

reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

I don't think you understand the true nature of his exhaustion. Furthermore this just isn't done and hasn't been done for 600 years and only 4 times in 2000 years.

But he was tired... yeah right.

I tell you this is much more significant and has a spiritual dimension to it most don't or can't recognize.

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Shockingly the Pontif was not live tweeting the Grammy awards, however his Tweet yesterday is interesting in light of today's announcement:

Benedict XVI ‏@Pontifex We must trust in the mighty power of God’s mercy. We are all sinners, but His grace transforms us and makes us new.

Combine that with this except from his Papal declaration today:

After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

One might comprehend the Tweet (which is from the Gospels) mentioning being a sinner and yearning to transform and the declaration statement of examining his conscience before God to mean that he is asking God for forgiveness or he is having a crisis of faith.

Originally posted by NickDC202
Therefore given Benedict XVI's undying commitment to Catholic traditions and noting the rarity of Papal resignations, one can decipher that the reason for this resignation is more involved than someone wanting to spend more time with his family...

Thats what I thought, although it could be, as some have suggested, that he is trying something new. Perhaps he truly believed that the previous pope wasn't fit for office in his last years, and didn't want to make the same mistake. But then again, why did he take office if he didn't want to do it to the end?

Originally posted by kosmicjack
With all the intervention these days from Anonymous, it would not surprise me at all if there was some disclosure of some sort about to drop that may have precipitated the resignation.

The "YourAnonNews" twitter account is certainly suggesting that they had somethign to do with it. They immediately had a tweet something along the lines of "peope resigns, did the anonymous have something to do with it?", and more recently they had, quote: "Looks like the Pope got our DM…". But I don't really think Anon would be able to get a pope to resign, seriously, that wouldn't happen.

Originally posted by NickDC202
I'd suggest that such info about to drop spurring this resignation would not be a result of Anonymous but more likely involving the Papal butler who was convicted of stealing very sensitive material from the Vatican and attempting to make that material public. I mention the Papal butler because the Pope pardoned him.

More likely, and I suppose possible... But would a butler really gain anything from asking the pope to resign? Why not just release the info straight away? Or is he blackmailing the pope for money, and the pope has decided to quit before the butler has a chance to release the info (which is why keeping it a secret was so important).

Originally posted by NickDC202
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Shockingly the Pontif was not live tweeting the Grammy awards, however his Tweet yesterday is interesting in light of today's announcement:

Benedict XVI ‏@Pontifex We must trust in the mighty power of God’s mercy. We are all sinners, but His grace transforms us and makes us new.

Combine that with this except from his Papal declaration today:

After having repeatedly examined my conscience before God, I have come to the certainty that my strengths, due to an advanced age, are no longer suited to an adequate exercise of the Petrine ministry. I am well aware that this ministry, due to its essential spiritual nature, must be carried out not only with words and deeds, but no less with prayer and suffering.

One might comprehend the Tweet (which is from the Gospels) mentioning being a sinner and yearning to transform and the declaration statement of examining his conscience before God to mean that he is asking God for forgiveness or he is having a crisis of faith.

Thats exactly what I thought when I read the tweet yesterday after hearing the news about him resigning. He specifically mentioned about sinners, and made the tweet on the day he told the cardinals he was resigning. At the time there was no reason given for his resignation, so I was almost certain he had done something evil.

Originally posted by thoughtsfull
I was always under the impression that Popes stay as being Pope until they die in the job, frail, terminally ill, evil or otherwise it's a job for the life of the post holder.. so this seems truly strange to me.. my mother, a devout Roman Catholic has always said he was a black and evil pope, given her advanced age she is not conspiracy minded and I have always found her comments about this pope interesting.

I guess we will see what happens next, and who they choose to replace him with.

Yes they do generally stay until death.

Think about it, they say GOD selected him, how can you just quit?

Originally posted by kosmicjack
With all the intervention these days from Anonymous, it would not surprise me at all if there was some disclosure of some sort about to drop that may have precipitated the resignation.

Why? Why do you think that? Pope Benedict has increasingly shown his frailty, I know this is a conspiracy site but come on, can you never just call a digging implement a digging implement and accept it?

reply to post by NickDC202

Very perceptive analysis of the context I agree, bang on. Thanks for sharing that - yesterday's tweet.

Benedict XVI ‏@Pontifex We must trust in the mighty power of God’s mercy. We are all sinners, but His grace transforms us and makes us new.

If so it's a courageous act and I for one will pray for him, because when it comes to spiritual crisis some among us have been there done that got the t-shirt and it's not a fun place to be.

I've often imagined what torture it must be for the Pope as a man if he were to find himself guarding the wrong gate, or playing both sides against the middle.. (oh that's so funny..!)

In that position, such a dilemma would spiritually rip any man to shreds, and it's rather apparent looking at almost any photos of him that he was a man caught up in a terrible predicament.

The irony, the great irony, is that he wanted the job very badly and all but strongarmed the conclave to name him..

May he find God's immaculate irony and humor at the expense of the devil.

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This morning I discussed today's Papal announcement with a dear friend who is a Roman Catholic Priest that has been with the diocese for over 30 years. This Priest is not the conspiracy type and a respected expert in Church doctrine. He shared with me that he has no doubt that the catalyst for the resignation is not what is stated in today's Papal declaration. He also shared with me that it is likely that the public will never know the real reason for this resignation. He was shocked by today's announcement.

Originally posted by wytewingdove
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My first thought too. But figured it doesn't matter where he's from originally, he was indocturnated in Rome and therefore, since part of the Vatican, is Roman as all are. So.. just watching just in case.

Obviosuly you are absolutely entitled to your view, but when you say indoctrinated, what do you mean? He actually gained his spurs so to speak in Ghana then in New York before moving to Italy. Not sure that would mean he should be classed as a Roman as usually that means someone from Rome.

In my local paper .. comment from the he Archdiocese of St. Louis :

"The people of the Archdiocese of Saint Louis and Catholics around the world learned today that our Holy Father Pope Benedict XVI announced his resignation effective February 28, 2013, because of advanced age and declining health. He made this surprise announcement to the Cardinals in Rome earlier this morning. In this Year of Faith, we pray for the Holy Father and offer him our fraternal support. We have been blessed by his leadership in boldly proclaiming the Gospel of Jesus Christ and challenging us all to draw close to Christ. We also begin our prayer for the Cardinals of the Church as they prepare to go to Rome to elect a successor."

www.kmov.com...

Anyway, a 30 yr worth of a relationship close friend of mine is a Jesuit in St Louis. Im a non Xtian, but Im familiar with many religions, Catholicism being one. He had emailed me this morning expressing complete shock and that it was a complete surprise, as things were happening that pointed to him being involved and remaining "in office" for some time. Actions that were taken very recently pointed to this. He said he feels its something very significant that would cause this particular pope to "renounce" his being vicar to Christ. ALso, the consensus among the Jes in STL is that they DO NOT want Turkson. He has expressed views and ideas that they do not feel represent the whole of the Church or its people... and would move things into a direction that would fracture the Church. There has been an uneasy truce between the Council of Bishops and the more.. how to say... "traditional" RC Priests/Bishops/etc in the past years. LIke even in our own board here.. there are those who are more prone to say "hell no" and fight. Same with the certain folks in the church, both nun and priest. HE sad some have been in prayer since the announcement... so this is a serious thing. I wasnt aware it was any huge deal until I started looking into Turkson due to the email. Geez...

ANyway, dont kill the messenger, Its just one Priests opinion and being given to you second hand by a non-believer. Im not "into" the prophecies angle, but the purely event ( historical and etc) its a pretty significant one!

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Because he is the first Pope in six centuries to resign, you'll have to make room for a tin foil hats on a conspiracy site.

Originally posted by kosmicjack
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Because he is the first Pope in six centuries to resign, you'll have to make room for a tin foil hats on a conspiracy site.

Sadly yes, that will be the case. Unfortunately that's because some people on this site never look at the obvious reason being the most likely - just too normal for them.

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Oh your funny is all good man, I hope you didn't take my post as any indication to the contrary! I have seen people wondering about the date and most are looking at the 2/28 and I just wondered what implications that could have on the date of the actual elevation of the next Pope. Keep with the funny, I love the funny posts here!