Pope Benedict To Resign At The End Of Februrary

Originally posted by cjttatu
Just looks like a nice piece of spin,he's about to die,hhmmm how to draw some attention,
Ha resignation hasn't been done in a while,won't cause damage,job done

Yeah - because he really wants to have good TV ratings when he's dead.....

or maybe he's just an old man who has a hard time keeping up with everything, and there's actually f-all "power" in the position like there used to be so it isn't worth dying for.

Could the next pope be the first black pope in 1500 years? TURKSON Card. Peter Kodwo Appiah? If so it will be all over the news! I have always pictured the antichrist as not being a person but a way of thinking.

reply to post by 1337s0lja


Name: Peter
Title: Peter de Roma

Maybe who knows? How does this guy get the Muslims to believe in the antichrist?

Something does not sit right with me about this recent announcement by Pope Benedict and the announcement of his abrupt resignation. As others have mentioned, tradition has it that this particular position is one a man holds until death. Most recently, the last Pope, John Paul II, was riddled with Parkinson's Disease and could barely move on his own without assistance from others, but carried out his duties until that final day. Yet, his predecessor is still able-bodied and capabable of carrying out his duties. Now, do not get me wrong, because I realize he was elected at an advanced age, but for all intended purposes his role as Pontiff should remain.

We are not privy to his personal health at this time, but at face value sake it seems absolutely unorthodox to recuse one's self from a position that has remained a lifetime appointment for over 600-hundred-years when the last Pope resigned. Plus, why put this out before such an important time during the Catholic year with this announcement coming out a few days before Lent, and right before the Easter season?

Therefore, I can't fault anyone for looking upon this with a tinfoil hat placed a top their heads. This is not a normal occurence in any, way, shape, or form. I would like to know what the deep-seeded reason is for such an abrupt departure? I can only speculate, but it could be a earth shattering scandal, power struggle between factions within the College of Cardinals, or even a preconceived fulfillment of the St. Malachy prophecy? That is only my tinfoil hatted assessment. This is practically one of the biggest news items I have seen in quite a while. I suppose only Pope Benedict, his closest aides, and the Almighty know the true intentions for this announcement and his abrupt departure? We can only speculate. In the coming months, I will be watching the upcoming chain-of-events very closely.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan

Originally posted by TrueBrit
What can one say to this staggering piece of news? How can one actually articulate the emotions that such information inspires?

WOOOOOHOOOOOOO! YES YES YES YES I LOVE IT!

That might do it.

I couldnt be happier. I mean, short of the entire Vatican being wiped off the map by an act of God, I cannot see how the news could be better.

I'm with you!

Stay classy, y'all.

Maybe the illuminists told him to resign.

Then he resigned. Like planned.

Originally posted by silo13
The television stations (here in Sicily/Italy) are all running ‘Special’ News reports with lots of mixed reactions.
[SNIP]...Me also. I’m going to spend some time poking around history and prophecies to see if there’s any significance to Feb. 28th 20:00.

edit on 11-2-2013 by silo13 because: fix type o

OK I did some mental calculations, now get this!!!

28-02-2013 = 9 ALRIGHT FORGIVE ME, here is my mistaken mental math, just for laughs:

I mistakenly calculated 28 + 02 + 2013 = 8
and 20:00 o' clock is also 8
So 20:00 in 28th Feb 2013 makes ........ 88!!!!!!!!

And 88 is the codeword of neonazis for 'heil hitler'!!!

seeeee all the connections?? too bad the date actually adds up to 9 !!

reply to post by something wicked


You think there is something youthful in what I said? I am merely expressing my joy, that the blaspheming psuedo pagan lie that is the Roman Catholic tradition, is going through a tricky period. Since they raped the Bible we read today, have misrepresented the messege of Christ since the formation of thier so called Church, and sodomised and murdered thier way through history, I see nothing wrong in taking my little bit of satisfaction when thier precious, pathetic, ungodly traditions get interupted.

reply to post by theAnswer1111


I'm actually excited to hear some good news for once.

Originally posted by Korg Trinity

Originally posted by McGinty

Originally posted by Korg Trinity....What we need to find out is who or what has him by the balls?

Old age has him by the balls, i imagine!

Given that he would be the first pope to resign due to old age in 600 years, wouldn't that make him a coward?

Perhaps he has lost his marbles and not be able to conduct any business. then he would retire to the vatican and be ill as long as it takes for him to pass....

Not resign and raise more questions over faith.

If his actions truly are motivated by age then he is a selfish thoughtless individual.

If however he was given no choice then he is just as cowardly for not comming out and saying so to the public directly as is possible.

Korg.

That's very harsh!

Just because he's not being selfless doesn't mean he's being selfish. There's a middle ground which the vast majority of us mere mortals inhabit.

I hope you manage to live up to your astronomical standards.

Originally posted by Zerschmetterling He was forced back then, just like everybody else. Comply or die, 2 choices.

there is a 3rd choice. fight.

reply to post by NavyDoc


Yes, but imho, and according to my own spiritual discernment, the Roman Catholic Church of modern times i.e. through the 20th century to the present, has been used or utilized for ulterior motives and a hidden agenda, to actually contain Christ and to bracket him, while allowing, via all manner of corruption, a permissive framework of evil to hold sway, and if some reports are to believed, active engagement in ritualized evil at the highest levels of the church hierarchy which may very well have been responsible in no small degree for the massive global phenomenon of child sex abuse.

Thus, to witness the rolling of the head (even voluntarily as a self decapitation), is not unlike the rolling of the stone by which the spirit of Christ is Liberated, set free to freely reign and to come and go without constraint or hindrance, set free for the sake of freedom that we might also come to freely love one another as we are loved

In such a framework Christ himself is then free to re-enter the church, you see, and so it's a wise act of courage on his part, to say, in effect, forgive me, it's back over to Christ who won the war whereby love conquors all.

This isn't about the person of Joseph Ratzinger (Benedict), not in the least, that's not the witch I'm referring to, but to something else much more fundamental, enough to persuade me that the Catholic Church is no longer at odds with itself, no longer a house divided, and thus the kind of place that anyone can feel free to freely enter and to come and go - it's like the doors flung open - to cheers and celebration.

I admire his act of courage and I pray for him, and ask him for his prayers too! Serious.

So it's not what you thought, my joyful celebration as a Christian of deep faith and personal experience.

It's a good day for the sake of the real and authentic church of Jesus Christ who is the body of all believers, and even unbelievers too (regardless of what they might believe). It's a day of spiritual liberation for none other than the spirit of Christ himself, imho.

Best Regards and God Bless,

NAM
ATS, February 11th, 2013.

Originally posted by Jakes51
Something does not sit right with me about this recent announcement by Pope Benedict and the announcement of his abrupt resignation. As others have mentioned, tradition has it that this particular position is one a man holds until death. Most recently, the last Pope, John Paul II, was riddled with Parkinson's Disease and could barely move on his own without assistance from others, but carried out his duties until that final day. Yet, his predecessor is still able-bodied and capabable of carrying out his duties.

so maybe seeing how his predecessor became a doddering fool in public mybe wasn't a look he wanted to repeat, knowing that he is getting less and less capable of "carrying out his duties"

Now, do not get me wrong, because I realize he was elected at an advanced age, but for all intended purposes his role as Pontiff should remain.

the role of Pontif does remain - he not actually obligated to stay there until he dies - ultimately he is "jsut" a priest and bishop - al of whom are allowed to resign - as he is.

come on pope spill the beans on the ET

re·nounce /riˈnouns/

Verb 1. Formally declare one's abandonment of (a claim, right, or possession). 2. Refuse to recognize or abide by any longer.


re·sign /riˈzīn/

Verb 1. Voluntarily leave a job or other position. 2. Give up (an office, power, privilege, etc.).


So which is it?

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul


Haha I see what you did there

Just started reading this thread so I don't know if anyone has said this yet...

A new Pope cannot be elected till the current one, in this case, resigns. This puts the new Pope being elected around mid-March (if I remember with the time of voting and other rules). This time line makes the new Popes first major event Easter Sunday Mass, celebrating the Resurrection of Christ. If the new Pope is the Anti-Christ (as some believe) this is very odd timing...

My thoughts are big deal, but I know logically it is and there is probably far more behind these actions than anyone is aware of. I'm not catholic and I disagree with the idea of even having a pope to begin with.

Originally posted by NewAgeMan
reply to post by NavyDoc

 

Yes, but imho, and according to my own spiritual discernment, the Roman Catholic Church of modern times i.e. through the 20th century to the present, has been used or utilized for ulterior motives and a hidden agenda, to actually contain Christ and to bracket him, while allowing, via all manner of corruption, a permissive framework of evil to hold sway, and if some reports are to believed, active engagement in ritualized evil at the highest levels of the church hierarchy which may very well have been responsible in no small degree for the massive global phenomenon of child sex abuse.

Thus, to witness the rolling of the head (even voluntarily as a self decapitation), is not unlike the rolling of the stone by which the spirit of Christ is Liberated, set free to freely reign and to come and go without constraint or hindrance, set free for the sake of freedom that we might also come to freely love one another as we are loved

In such a framework Christ himself is then free to re-enter the church, you see, and so it's a wise act of courage on his part, to say, in effect, forgive me, it's back over to Christ who won the war whereby love conquors all.

This is about the person of Joseph Ratzinger (Benedict), not in the least, that's not the witch I'm referring to, but to something else much more fundamental, enough to persuade me that the Catholic Church is no longer at odds with itself, no longer a house divided, and thus the kind of place that anyone can feel free to freely enter and to come and go - it's like the doors flung open - to cheers and celebration.

I admire his act of courage and I pray for him, and ask him for his prayers too! Serious.

So it's not that you thought, my joyful celebration as a Christian of deep faith and personal experience.

It's a good day for the sake of the real and authentic church of Jesus Christ who is the body of all believers, and even unbelievers too (regardless of what they might believe). It's a day of spiritual liberation for none other than the spirit of Christ himself, imho.

Best Regards and God Bless,

NAM
ATS, February 11th, 2013.

So what you are saying is that you think it is a positive step for the Church and that his letting go will help bring her back to what she should be? Okay, I can swing with that. I had assumed it was yet another round of tasteless Catholic bashing. My apologies. Carry on.