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Except it was police, not NG doing the knocking down doors, confiscation, and so forth not the national guard. The video shows NG patrolling the streets, but only the cops actually entering dwellings.
Originally posted by TDawgRex
Originally posted by xedocodex
The Military has it's reputation for a reason...I'm sorry you don't like it.
The supposedly peaceful left has that reputation as well. Lee Harvet Oswald was a socialist, SirHan SirHan supported the Palestinien cause, I can go on and on. Just look at the OWS movement that lasted about what? Maybe a year, if that?
Jared Loughfner was a leftist as was the guy who flew his plane into the IRS building not to long ago. The list goes on.
You are buying into the divisiveness. Think for yourself please. There are bad elements out there and there are good. And both believe it or not are armed and ready to do battle. Though I hope it never comes down to that.
I know of no US troops that will fire upon anybody unless fired upon first. That's called Rules of Engagement. But once fired upon, they will respond with overwhelming firepower, that is a given.
Originally posted by xedocodex
reply to post by NavyDoc
I don't know what to say to you, it is the reputation the Military has.
And it is not the same as stereotyping African Americans, because that is not an organization that people join, stereotypes against African Americans are solely based on their skin color. But the Military is an organization people join...and they join knowing that the Military kills people...this attracts a certain type of person.
The Military has it's reputation for a reason...I'm sorry you don't like it.
Originally posted by Shamrock6
reply to post by DarthMuerte
Kent State = National Guard
DNC Chicago (I assume you meant 1968?) = National Guard
Whiskey Rebellion = local militia attacks a US Marshal at his home after he's attempted to serve writs....
seeing a pattern here?
That would be a false assumption. Most people join the military out of an idea of service to their country. Sure, killing is at times part of that, however, killing can and has been justified. Might I remind you that the only way we got the Nazis to stop their genocide was to kill them--an aweful lot of them.
Originally posted by xedocodex
reply to post by NavyDoc
That would be a false assumption. Most people join the military out of an idea of service to their country. Sure, killing is at times part of that, however, killing can and has been justified. Might I remind you that the only way we got the Nazis to stop their genocide was to kill them--an aweful lot of them.
I have no problem with the Military killing people...but it does attract a certain type of people.
Again, I don't know what to say to you, if you want to deny that the Military has a certain bad reputation...then that is fine...but it won't make it go away.
Originally posted by sealing
I agree OP.
I wonder if the 1,500,000 million ready to fight American Soldiers
know that the 88,000,000 million American citizens with 300,000,000 weapons
may do something wacky like, fire back?
Hell, let the 2.2 million ready to fight Chinese soldiers join them.
4 million vs 88 million? That's a fight all armies in the world combined wouldn't want.
Originally posted by Eldensword
Originally posted by sealing
I agree OP.
I wonder if the 1,500,000 million ready to fight American Soldiers
know that the 88,000,000 million American citizens with 300,000,000 weapons
may do something wacky like, fire back?
Hell, let the 2.2 million ready to fight Chinese soldiers join them.
4 million vs 88 million? That's a fight all armies in the world combined wouldn't want.
You're, unfortunately, under the impression anything would happen under a "FLASH" pretense. That "suddenly" and "rapidly" we'd be at war with the US Military. Buddy, I hear your passion and 88 million of us appreciate it, but...They're going to slowly and surely drag those bullets out of your collection...slowly make us criminals and steadily break the economy, leaving us starving and ill equipped to fight.
Share with us your plan to combat THAT tactic.
Originally posted by xedocodex
Originally posted by Shamrock6
reply to post by xedocodex
clearly you've never served a day in your life, and if you did (which I strongly doubt), you were an REMF to the extreme. perhaps get off the MSM bandwagon that all military are borderline psychotics who love nothing more than dropping napalm on babies and putting rounds into bodies.
No, I never served, I had other options in life.
And sorry, but US soldiers don't have a good reputation for a reason. If you don't like it, work to change it.
Originally posted by xedocodex
Originally posted by cavtrooper7
reply to post by xedocodex
Great. now you're comparing the ENTIRE military to a broken individual,brilliant.
Not a perfect example AT ALL.
I hope they got rid of all of their combat people who disagree, then we'll just have more on our side to kick their butts.The best talent is already out of service because THEY HAVE THE SKILLS.Less DELTA in service than out SEALs, special forces,spooks and excellent field officers trained in MOUT ops.
WAY more than under federal command.Most like me who love their country and have American pride.
What will the attackers be proud of? What will they believe in? A paycheck? Just to survive? Then they are reduced to hostages,that won't work for a warrior mindset to win. You have to believe to create the will to drive.
As a side note I hear marksmanship is suffering in the ranks these days.
Yeah, you completly missed the point.
Not comparing the Military to Dorner...more like comparing the LAPD to the Military and how the public supports them going after him.
Just like if a group of "patriots" decided to take the law in their own hands and start killing politicians because they weren't abiding by the Constitution, the Military would be all over that group and the public would support them.
The Military will shoot Americans...they will shoot whatever and whoever they are told to shoot (or allowed to shoot, since many of them are trigger happy).